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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:46 am

PCHeintz72 wrote:It is more than that, though they may not care. They shot down a company helicopter and endangered their agents. Although the agents survuved, thanks to Ranma, is not the issue. The fact nothing was done to a company agent prior to this was the only thing preventing their retaliation. At least, I'm assuming that is going to occur based on comments after the battel on the order of 'they made a big mistake'.

Yes, that was a quite clear casus belli. Things are gonna get interesting.
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Postby Raneko » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:04 am

You know there this movie where a man breaks up with his girlfriend. Except his girlfriend is a super-hero, and she doesn't take it very well.
Hopefully Ranma will take this somewhat better.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:08 am

Raneko wrote:You know there this movie where a man breaks up with his girlfriend. Except his girlfriend is a super-hero, and she doesn't take it very well.
Hopefully Ranma will take this somewhat better.

Ranma is a profesional. So... better.
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Postby Metroidvania » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:38 am

The things I almost miss when I'm busy for a day....
"Huh?" A blush crept up on Usagi's face as she cleared her head.
"Ami's dangerous. Naru by her own admission was turned by Murdock, and Naru then got to Ami. They want you."

As it appears to me, a little formatting error.
"It's different now. You shouldn't be alone any of you." Setsuna sighed. It was good advice, but Ami had proven it ineffective last night, though they were surprised. It was troubling. If they had followed Ami's advice they would have been training and maybe the girls would be getting more skilled.

Missed a comma or period.
Hmm....seems like thus far, Usagi and Setsuna are mainly concerned about betrayal, not even thinking of the training.....while that's par for the course, it seems a little odd, though I suppose no actual _threat_ could have something to do with it.....
Blushing Kasumi coughed, but after finding that ineffective at dislodging the demon, she sighed. "Why not?"

Possible comma error, I'm not certain.
Interesting that Ranma's trying to salvage Nabiki's new personality rather than working on an integration.....I know it's a mother daughter thing, especially with reinforcement from the brood, but it seems a little...uncaring of Nabiki's former personality.
"Oh," Setsuna coughed and looked ahead. She never could relate to common soldier; they were too practical. Lords and ladies, especially those with hereditary military titles, were so much easier to handle.
Kasumi kept watch and made sure her earpiece was working. Whiz-kids like Meiou were nothing but trouble. They loved overcomplicated plans that showed how clever they were.

Whiz-kid? Interesting label....but I'm not sure if it's quite correct in this instance.
Do like Sets' and Kasumi's different interactions, it contrasts their "this fic" personalities well.
"Kasumi? Nice going." Sam gave Ranma a friendly nudge. "I never knew she was into the lipstick lesbians."

The label here.....while Kasumi's definitely not butch, I'm not sure this is much better.
"Sure, we could go to a bar or a club. I'd be fun." Ranma gave a saucy smile. She noticed the amused blushes on her friends and recalled exactly what she said.. "Oh! It! I meant to say "It" would be fun!"

Seems to me like an odd place for a little humor injection.....especially when it seems....flat.
And if it's not humor...why have the error in the first place, unless Ranma's thinking about it, but I didn't see any indication of that.....
While it's true I'm tired and my synapses are only partially firing, could you mind refreshing my memory on how there's direct confirmation of Murdock being behind all this?
"Pretty good really." Ranma stretched her arms. "There might actually be some hope for Usagi - she was kinda decisive. Plus Sam and Naoko showed up, so I got to help them shop."

Indeed, fear for her friends seems to be about the only motivation she ever has to really get her going.....
"We're going out?" Misako's eyes twinkled. She had not visited a good club in a while. "When?"

Wordiness alert. Why not just use hadn't?
"Our saccharine succubus mom is supposed to submit to saturated sweetness," Nabiki remarked.

Kudos for the alliteration, but succharine?
"I appreciate it, but don't be too servile." Mercury snickered. "So the Princess aims to fight? Good. I want her to learn from this."

The snicker sticks out to me, especially with Mercury's cold calculation earlier in the conversation.
She thanked her foresight in making contingency plans.

Another awkward little bit, but I'm not sure on a fix.
"I won't," Orion said with a secret smile.

Kind of like the obedient butler with an outside objective....
Like the Nabiki angle, and am wondering on just how far you'll have those noxiously nasty yet notoriously nifty girl to girl entanglements.
I'm going to have to stop for now, I'm all but about to fall asleep, but thus far, I like the chapter
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:53 am

The things I almost miss when I'm busy for a day....
[Indeed.
"Huh?" A blush crept up on Usagi's face as she cleared her head.
"Ami's dangerous. Naru by her own admission was turned by Murdock, and Naru then got to Ami. They want you."

As it appears to me, a little formatting error.
[What exactly? I don't see a formating error in your blurb
"It's different now. You shouldn't be alone any of you." Setsuna sighed. It was good advice, but Ami had proven it ineffective last night, though they were surprised. It was troubling. If they had followed Ami's advice they would have been training and maybe the girls would be getting more skilled.

Missed a comma or period.
[yah
Hmm....seems like thus far, Usagi and Setsuna are mainly concerned about betrayal, not even thinking of the training.....while that's par for the course, it seems a little odd, though I suppose no actual _threat_ could have something to do with it.....
[Yes, they're not thinking things through yet.
Blushing Kasumi coughed, but after finding that ineffective at dislodging the demon, she sighed. "Why not?"

Possible comma error, I'm not certain.
[correct.
Interesting that Ranma's trying to salvage Nabiki's new personality rather than working on an integration.....I know it's a mother daughter thing, especially with reinforcement from the brood, but it seems a little...uncaring of Nabiki's former personality.
[Ranma's talked with Nabiki about this, and Nabiki doesn't want to be Yuki or old Nabiki. Nabiki's trying to find a third way.
[She's not as trailblazing as Misako, but Nabiki is trying to find out who she is.
"Oh," Setsuna coughed and looked ahead. She never could relate to common soldier; they were too practical. Lords and ladies, especially those with hereditary military titles, were so much easier to handle.
Kasumi kept watch and made sure her earpiece was working. Whiz-kids like Meiou were nothing but trouble. They loved overcomplicated plans that showed how clever they were.

Whiz-kid? Interesting label....but I'm not sure if it's quite correct in this instance.
[Whiz-kid in more the political sense. Fitting the meaning that Kasumi says
Do like Sets' and Kasumi's different interactions, it contrasts their "this fic" personalities well.
[Heh. Thanks.
"Kasumi? Nice going." Sam gave Ranma a friendly nudge. "I never knew she was into the lipstick lesbians."

The label here.....while Kasumi's definitely not butch, I'm not sure this is much better.
[Well, Ranma is pretty femme. She is a succubus afterall.
"Sure, we could go to a bar or a club. I'd be fun." Ranma gave a saucy smile. She noticed the amused blushes on her friends and recalled exactly what she said.. "Oh! It! I meant to say "It" would be fun!"

Seems to me like an odd place for a little humor injection.....especially when it seems....flat.
And if it's not humor...why have the error in the first place, unless Ranma's thinking about it, but I didn't see any indication of that.....
[It was origicnally a typo on my part. and Pat pointed it out and mentioned the joke.
[As for an interjection of humor, Ranma's suggesteing some friends go out with her and she slipped up. Seems like a fine spot to me
While it's true I'm tired and my synapses are only partially firing, could you mind refreshing my memory on how there's direct confirmation of Murdock being behind all this?
[No real confirmation. Ranma suspects, but Ranma doesn't really care.
"Pretty good really." Ranma stretched her arms. "There might actually be some hope for Usagi - she was kinda decisive. Plus Sam and Naoko showed up, so I got to help them shop."

Indeed, fear for her friends seems to be about the only motivation she ever has to really get her going.....
[Yeah, Usagi is not too proactive.
"We're going out?" Misako's eyes twinkled. She had not visited a good club in a while. "When?"

Wordiness alert. Why not just use hadn't?
[I do not like using contractions in prose.
[It's a peeve of mine.
"Our saccharine succubus mom is supposed to submit to saturated sweetness," Nabiki remarked.

Kudos for the alliteration, but succharine?
[The meaning fits.
[I suppose I could have said "sappy succubus mom" instead
"I appreciate it, but don't be too servile." Mercury snickered. "So the Princess aims to fight? Good. I want her to learn from this."

The snicker sticks out to me, especially with Mercury's cold calculation earlier in the conversation.
[agreeded. doesn't mesh with how she's presenting herself.
[[Mercury cautioned. ]]
She thanked her foresight in making contingency plans.

Another awkward little bit, but I'm not sure on a fix.
[Hrm. Yeah, drawing a blank myself, too.
"I won't," Orion said with a secret smile.

Kind of like the obedient butler with an outside objective....
[Heh. Glad you picked up on that.
[Orion was the one that recuited Merc. Readers should remember that.
Like the Nabiki angle, and am wondering on just how far you'll have those noxiously nasty yet notoriously nifty girl to girl entanglements.
[Thanks. Heh not bad alliteration
I'm going to have to stop for now, I'm all but about to fall asleep, but thus far, I like the chapter
[Thanks. Apreciate that you reveiwed instead of sleeping ;p
[Lookign forward to the rest.
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Postby Metroidvania » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:48 pm

[What exactly? I don't see a formating error in your blurb

No space between two different people talking.
Anywho....
I'll bring up Ranma being more femme later.
"Close enough. Interesting choice of words too." She said with deliberate delicateness.

Why the alliteration here? The point that Ranma wanted her "kids" to be careful about draining is already obvious, especially with the alliteration, it seems to shout "hey, look, imporant!" I'm exaggerating, but do you get my point?
"You taught my father? Soun too? Oh dear," Ranma sighed. Even if this coot were telling the truth things could be a pain.

The "oh dear" seems out of place....to me, it seems too girly, even for your Ranma.
Heh...should've guessed Ranma's uncaringness to all things sex related would really endear her to Happosai....though I don't know if I would consider his draining to be in the same category as demonic biology.....
Ranma rolled her eyes. "Oh please we're not a bunch of prudes."

My instincts are telling me there's a missed comma _somewhere_ in there...either after oh, or more likely, please.
"He's just some mook that likes causin' trouble," Ranma explained.

Mook?
I do like more Murdock scheming, though.....and the limit on how far Happosai'll go is nice.
"We believe, he is trying to orchestrate events," Nodoka said.

unneccesary comma.
"Tingly," Mercury laughed and adjusted her corset. "I'm not some phage, but it's good to see you had the stone to at least try."

The stones? Sounds more like a man talking than Mercury....
"Excellent," Mercury said as she blocked the flaming fists with her tessen. Behind her smirk she wondered. The fans would hold up; they were designed to take much more than this.

Designed....so, they're not a natural aspect of her new transformation?
Nice little Senshi fight, with serious Usagi finally coming out....the Moon kick was a nice touch.
Interesting aspect with Usagi playing the princess card...either she got _really_ lucky, or Ami's more the Ami we know than the rest of the Senshi realize...
Moon glared at the spilled blood and hurt friends. "Yes. I'll do whatever it takes."

Seems awkward....perhaps inserting a "her" between and/hurt
And even more interesting that Ami didn't take Minako just because Usagi was charging up.....which is related to the above: fear, loyalty, or merely thinking that if it helps Usagi to get stronger, she'll concede some points?
"Definite improvement in Nabikis," Naoko remarked. "She's half Tendo's size, and half the smirking con artist."

Either and apostrophe, or take out the "s".
Ah, blood samples....interesting shot of realism there.
"Troubling," Setsuna gulped down nearly half of her drink.

You go from while she's talking straight into action. Perhaps.
"Troubling," Setsuna agreed as she knocked back half of her drink....
Or something to that effect.
Hmm...Kodachi's back....and that means either you've brought her in just for fun, which would be rather odd, or she's going to get deeply involved quite quickly.....or she already is....
Hilbert worked at the controls. "Transmission's shot Ma'am. It's not good. I think I can get this thing down with no power, though." Within the right domain of velocity and altitude a helicopter can glide and land with some survivability. The decent turns the unpowered rotor blades which generate enough lift to slow the fall to what can be safe levels. The turning of the main rotor also turns the tail rotor which maintains stability. The line bounding this domain was affectionately known as the "Curve of Death".

To me, I think Hilbert should include the description of the "curve of death as part of his talking, it would seem more natural.
His right arm hung uselessly at his side, nothing more than a broken, bleeding mass of meat.

You do like using meat, though there's more to an arm than that... out of curiosity, why not muscle and bones, or some other way of description?
Ranma smiled at the pleasure the energy the kills gave her and rushed into the three men who had held their ground. She kept her aura and shadows up. Men with automatic weapons were more of a threat to her than rockets. She could take out a handful of attacks, but a concentrated and sustained volley of fire would be troubling.

Too many "the's" in the first sentence.
The succubus' hair was now a very rich and deep shade of red and fell to her butt in a very full bodied and almost animated wave. Her tresses seemed to move to conflicting eddies of wind and force.

Seems like too much of an overly scientific way of saying that her hair's being moved about by both wind and power.....
Nodoka smiled her daughter's new style was quite lovely. "You two going to have fun?"
Kasumi nodded as Ranma nuzzled the taller teen.
"Have fun you two," Nodoka smiled. She called the agents in the APC to help her load the weapons. Her daughter would not be the only one with a busy night.

Two have fun's so close kind of grates....
After finishing her set, Ranma slid off of the tiny stage and eased up to the wayward Senshi. "You've got a lot of guts waltzing in here," Ranma then ordered a drink. "Your mistress give you the night off?" she mockingly asked while sipping.

Another instance of talking going right to actions without the inbetween, there are a couple more I've noted as I've been reading.
Ranma sipped her drink and studied Mercury's face. It was clear and controlled but fear still radiated from her. "Oh I dunno." Ranma smiled warmly at the memory of Usagi's bloody visage. The princess had potential. That hug was really good too.

Comma....Sorry if it seems I'm being nitpicky, I'm just honing in on them today....
"That's the spirit!" Ranma stretched her shoulders. "I mean what's the point of having it and not have fun with it."

Question mark, perhaps?
"Makes you think doesn't it?" Ranma asked as she finished her own drink.

Comma, perhaps?
"My pleasure," Ranma nodded. "Oh, don't do anything too rash, kid. I don't think you want to push Usagi to the edge."
"Don't worry I know exactly what I'm doing," Mercury laughed gently and turned around. She walked out of the bar and passed an orange-haired demon who simply glared amusingly at her.

I doubt it. And why is Ranma referring to Mercury as kid? Yes, Darkstar's much older, but Ranma's the same age...unless her memories are actively influencing her more than I've read into....
Kasumi cut her off. "No, you can't. You're a sappy demon Mommy. You don't do casual."

Mommy? Seems a little out of place, even with a sort of breakdown....
"How, nice of you," Ranma half-cried; she paused to keep her emotions under control. "I guess... it's good that you don't want to string me along."

Odd here.
Delete the comma, perhaps, and add something to the Ranma half-cried, it's another of those talking to action thingies....which, obviously, I've forgotten the name of.
Ranma looked up from her own sorrow and saw her father for who he truly was: a misguided, greedy, and lazy man, but he was not a monster. He was a sad man. "I..."

Problems here with the colon usage, then switching to "but he was not." And the sentence immediately after is too...short. It doesn't _really_ give us insight into Genma the way I think you're trying to come across as it is now.
"Thanks," Ranma smiled weakly. "If my girls wake up, tell them I just went to see, Mom."

Unneccesary comma.
After hearing her daughter's crying lessen, Nodoka picked up the brush and went to work. She was surprised to find the hair... responding to the brushing. Almost expectantly, it moved into the brushing. Nodoka smiled and resumed the strokes.

Brushing twice in two sentences.
Hmm....I like the way this chapter ends. Though it's sad, it leaves a lot of potential for the opening of the next chapter.
I'll bring up Ranma's "femme"ness in a bit, I've got to run some errands.
As an end-note, bringing up recollections of previous chapters, I kind of see that your way of writing does involve the talking directly moving to actions, and it's probably just your style, but I'm not certain. I'm confused due to the commas after the talking, perhaps if they were periods?
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:32 pm

[What exactly? I don't see a formating error in your blurb

No space between two different people talking.
[ahh.
Anywho....
I'll bring up Ranma being more femme later.
"Close enough. Interesting choice of words too." She said with deliberate delicateness.

Why the alliteration here? The point that Ranma wanted her "kids" to be careful about draining is already obvious, especially with the alliteration, it seems to shout "hey, look, imporant!" I'm exaggerating, but do you get my point?
[Pardon? There's no alliteration in Ranma's speech here.
[So it's not out of character for Ranma.
[As for the alliteration in the prose that was coincidental.
"You taught my father? Soun too? Oh dear," Ranma sighed. Even if this coot were telling the truth things could be a pain.

The "oh dear" seems out of place....to me, it seems too girly, even for your Ranma.
[Hmm... I don't really agree.
Heh...should've guessed Ranma's uncaringness to all things sex related would really endear her to Happosai....though I don't know if I would consider his draining to be in the same category as demonic biology.....
[Yah Happi's not that bad in Ranma's eyes
[It's not. But it was similar.
Ranma rolled her eyes. "Oh please we're not a bunch of prudes."

My instincts are telling me there's a missed comma _somewhere_ in there...either after oh, or more likely, please.
[probably. at work now so will have to update later.
"He's just some mook that likes causin' trouble," Ranma explained.

Mook?
Mook: n. Slang
An insignificant or contemptible person.
I do like more Murdock scheming, though.....and the limit on how far Happosai'll go is nice.
"We believe, he is trying to orchestrate events," Nodoka said.

unneccesary comma.
[yup
"Tingly," Mercury laughed and adjusted her corset. "I'm not some phage, but it's good to see you had the stone to at least try."

The stones? Sounds more like a man talking than Mercury....
[Eh, was less crash than saying balls, but it is the phrase that fits.
"Excellent," Mercury said as she blocked the flaming fists with her tessen. Behind her smirk she wondered. The fans would hold up; they were designed to take much more than this.

Designed....so, they're not a natural aspect of her new transformation?
[Is any pwert of her new transformation "natural"?
Nice little Senshi fight, with serious Usagi finally coming out....the Moon kick was a nice touch.
[Thanks. Yeah, Usagi goes get serious, and her kick is a cannon attack.
Interesting aspect with Usagi playing the princess card...either she got _really_ lucky, or Ami's more the Ami we know than the rest of the Senshi realize...
[The question becomes what are Merc's motives and her feelings toward the Princess.
Moon glared at the spilled blood and hurt friends. "Yes. I'll do whatever it takes."

Seems awkward....perhaps inserting a "her" between and/hurt
[Hmm... I think it sounds more awkward with her in there, acutally.
And even more interesting that Ami didn't take Minako just because Usagi was charging up.....which is related to the above: fear, loyalty, or merely thinking that if it helps Usagi to get stronger, she'll concede some points?
[Heh
[Yup, comes down to what Ami's ultimate goals are.
"Definite improvement in Nabikis," Naoko remarked. "She's half Tendo's size, and half the smirking con artist."

Either and apostrophe, or take out the "s".
[No. You never use an apostrophe for a plural.
Ah, blood samples....interesting shot of realism there.
[Yah, the local police would have to know something is going on.
"Troubling," Setsuna gulped down nearly half of her drink.

You go from while she's talking straight into action. Perhaps.
"Troubling," Setsuna agreed as she knocked back half of her drink....
Or something to that effect.
[or I could go with just a period after troubling. But that is a mistake.
Hmm...Kodachi's back....and that means either you've brought her in just for fun, which would be rather odd, or she's going to get deeply involved quite quickly.....or she already is....
[Heh. Gotta cram all the characters I can ;p
Hilbert worked at the controls. "Transmission's shot Ma'am. It's not good. I think I can get this thing down with no power, though." Within the right domain of velocity and altitude a helicopter can glide and land with some survivability. The decent turns the unpowered rotor blades which generate enough lift to slow the fall to what can be safe levels. The turning of the main rotor also turns the tail rotor which maintains stability. The line bounding this domain was affectionately known as the "Curve of Death".

To me, I think Hilbert should include the description of the "curve of death as part of his talking, it would seem more natural.
[No. It makes no sense for him to belabor the point and babble while he tries to land it.
[That's too fake. It would be like people explaining their attacks in the middle of a fight.
His right arm hung uselessly at his side, nothing more than a broken, bleeding mass of meat.

You do like using meat, though there's more to an arm than that... out of curiosity, why not muscle and bones, or some other way of description?
[When preceded by "mass of" I did not want to use more than one word.
[Mass gives a feeling of homogenaity and having a list of items being a mass sounds worse to me.
[I suppose I could have used flesh instead, but that also falls into the same problem of ignoring the bones.
Ranma smiled at the pleasure the energy the kills gave her and rushed into the three men who had held their ground. She kept her aura and shadows up. Men with automatic weapons were more of a threat to her than rockets. She could take out a handful of attacks, but a concentrated and sustained volley of fire would be troubling.

Too many "the's" in the first sentence.
[Agreeded. Not sure how to rephrase it to use fewer though.
The succubus' hair was now a very rich and deep shade of red and fell to her butt in a very full bodied and almost animated wave. Her tresses seemed to move to conflicting eddies of wind and force.

Seems like too much of an overly scientific way of saying that her hair's being moved about by both wind and power.....
[I was attempting to say tha ther hair was moving about by more than just the wind.
Nodoka smiled her daughter's new style was quite lovely. "You two going to have fun?"
Kasumi nodded as Ranma nuzzled the taller teen.
"Have fun you two," Nodoka smiled. She called the agents in the APC to help her load the weapons. Her daughter would not be the only one with a busy night.

Two have fun's so close kind of grates....
[Yeah, Nodoka can just say: Have a good time you two
After finishing her set, Ranma slid off of the tiny stage and eased up to the wayward Senshi. "You've got a lot of guts waltzing in here," Ranma then ordered a drink. "Your mistress give you the night off?" she mockingly asked while sipping.

Another instance of talking going right to actions without the inbetween, there are a couple more I've noted as I've been reading.
[yeah should just have a period after "in here"
Ranma sipped her drink and studied Mercury's face. It was clear and controlled but fear still radiated from her. "Oh I dunno." Ranma smiled warmly at the memory of Usagi's bloody visage. The princess had potential. That hug was really good too.

Comma....I'm not trying to nitpick, but for some reason, I'm just catching them.......
[No problem. I really don't mind nitpicking. There's nothing wrong with spotting errors. I apreciate it.
"That's the spirit!" Ranma stretched her shoulders. "I mean what's the point of having it and not have fun with it."

Question mark, perhaps?
[Yup
"Makes you think doesn't it?" Ranma asked as she finished her own drink.

Comma, perhaps?
[correct.
"My pleasure," Ranma nodded. "Oh, don't do anything too rash, kid. I don't think you want to push Usagi to the edge."
"Don't worry I know exactly what I'm doing," Mercury laughed gently and turned around. She walked out of the bar and passed an orange-haired demon who simply glared amusingly at her.

I doubt it.
[heh. doubt that Ami knows what she's doing?
And why is Ranma referring to Mercury as kid? Yes, Darkstar's much older, but Ranma's the same age...unless her memories are actively influencing her more than I've read into....
[Nariko and Nabiki are older than Ranma and she thinks of them as daughters.
[Ranma sees Ami as less experiences and thus "kid"
Kasumi cut her off. "No, you can't. You're a sappy demon Mommy. You don't do casual."

Mommy? Seems a little out of place, even with a sort of breakdown....
[Kasumi used it for emphasis.
"How, nice of you," Ranma half-cried; she paused to keep her emotions under control. "I guess... it's good that you don't want to string me along."

Odd here.
Delete the comma, perhaps, and add something to the Ranma half-cried, it's another of those talking to action thingies....which, obviously, I've forgotten the name of.
[Well cried can be a form of speach too.
[As in "I've got to get out of here," Bill cried.
Ranma looked up from her own sorrow and saw her father for who he truly was: a misguided, greedy, and lazy man, but he was not a monster. He was a sad man. "I..."

Problems here with the colon usage, then switching to "but he was not." And the sentence immediately after is too...short. It doesn't _really_ give us insight into Genma the way I think you're trying to come across as it is now.
[hmmm not sure what to do here.
"Thanks," Ranma smiled weakly. "If my girls wake up, tell them I just went to see, Mom."

Unneccesary comma.
[yup.
After hearing her daughter's crying lessen, Nodoka picked up the brush and went to work. She was surprised to find the hair... responding to the brushing. Almost expectantly, it moved into the brushing. Nodoka smiled and resumed the strokes.

Brushing twice in two sentences.
[yah, can change one.
Hmm....I like the way this chapter ends. Though it's sad, it leaves a lot of potential for the opening of the next chapter.
[Thanks.
[I really think you guys will like the next installment.
I'll bring up Ranma's "femme"ness in a bit, I've got to run some errands.
[Cool looking forward to it.
[You really did alot here. This is great.
As an end-note, bringing up recollections of previous chapters, I kind of see that your way of writing does involve the talking directly moving to actions, and it's probably just your style, but I'm not certain. I'm confused due to the commas after the talking, perhaps if they were periods?
[Yup, they should be periods.
[Yeah I don't like having ["I'm going to the store," Frank said as he got up.] when I could have ["I'm going to the store." Frank then got up.]
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Postby Nadrek » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:33 pm

An excellent chapter.
Genma, in particular, was a striking character in this chapter - especially when Ranma thanks him for trying to warn her... and when he calls Nodoka himself.
Happosai is interesting, though I'm still not quite sure about him. He does show, however, that there is much in martial arts and/or ki manipulation yet to be explored, given its effect on Company scanners as well as succubus senses - Ranma needs to pay more attention to the twinges.
I note that Ranma's now using both aura and shadows as protection, and perhaps offense.
The change in Ranma's hair was interesting - finally, a reason why at least one species goes in for the "big boss against big boss" battles - because there's more of a powerup from draining and eating powerful foes. Her hair moving on its own is also interesting - another useful combination close combat weapon and sex toy?
Ami's comments about Minako's potential were interesting - I don't know enough about SM, but I do recall she was "Sailor V" by herself for months.
Misako's crew-served weapon being a Mk. 19 was a surprise, but makes sense - though range you'll have to look at.
Nariko's developed eyebeams, good, that was Ranma's first seen ranged attack.
Kasumi's breaking up with Ranma was more or less expected, though still sad... on the other hand, it does free Ranma up to go after Usagi and Ami herself.
Ami's interactions with Janet were well done, and certainly called to mind the previous chapter's comment regarding Janet wanting Ami to be more aggressive. I wonder why Ami didn't want Janet so subservient - is that partly based on sexual preference, and partly based on trying to avoid tendencies towards hubris?
Ami's interactions with Ranma have the cautious, tentative feel of those breaking the Evil Overlord rules, and knowing they're breaking them... but having little choice about it.
Ranma's daughters are coming into their own power, now - capable of handling (lesser?) Fathers of the AoM on thier own. How much of a powerup did they get from killing the Fathers?
Right now, we appear to have (at least):
The usual Pattern issues that WIC handles on a daily basis.
WIC still working with the portal Ranma captured, undamaged, for them at Furinkan in the first chapter.
Mercury's Senshi vs. Main Senshi battles... or routs, perhaps, is a better term, despite flashes of fear from Ami.
WIC and Brood Senshi vs. Assembly of Man battles, just starting - it's clearly worth WIC's time to eliminate AoM now, and if AoM stays in disparate platoons, that won't be hard.
Murdock's employers doing whatever.
Murdock doing whatever.
The remnants of Path of the Will doing whatever, sans leadership, and they may or may not have copies of the book.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:02 pm

An excellent chapter.
[Followed by an excellent review. ^_^
Genma, in particular, was a striking character in this chapter - especially when Ranma thanks him for trying to warn her... and when he calls Nodoka himself.
[Yeah, I wasn't too fond of the evil manipulative basterd Genma characterization that is common.
[He's better as the highly flawed man that he really is.
Happosai is interesting, though I'm still not quite sure about him. He does show, however, that there is much in martial arts and/or ki manipulation yet to be explored, given its effect on Company scanners as well as succubus senses - Ranma needs to pay more attention to the twinges.
[Yah, it's good to show that Ranma still has a lot to learn.
I note that Ranma's now using both aura and shadows as protection, and perhaps offense.
[Yup. Her demonic nature is coming along
The change in Ranma's hair was interesting - finally, a reason why at least one species goes in for the "big boss against big boss" battles - because there's more of a powerup from draining and eating powerful foes. Her hair moving on its own is also interesting - another useful combination close combat weapon and sex toy?
[Having your enemies as food does give a logic to those kinds of fights.
[Heh, you act like everything on a succubus is a combination of weapon and sexual aide ;p
Ami's comments about Minako's potential were interesting - I don't know enough about SM, but I do recall she was "Sailor V" by herself for months.
[Yah she was. It's interesting to compare Sailor V with Sailor Venus.
Misako's crew-served weapon being a Mk. 19 was a surprise, but makes sense - though range you'll have to look at.
[Succubae do allow for some very interesting weapons.
[Range is a factor.
Nariko's developed eyebeams, good, that was Ranma's first seen ranged attack.
[She's also Ranma's eldest.
Kasumi's breaking up with Ranma was more or less expected, though still sad... on the other hand, it does free Ranma up to go after Usagi and Ami herself.
[I get annoyed by the vast majority of fics where Ranma's first girlfriend/boyfriend ends up being the one, and that's it for Ranma.
[And as you said, this is a case where Ranma and Kasumi would get close, but there would be problems
Ami's interactions with Janet were well done, and certainly called to mind the previous chapter's comment regarding Janet wanting Ami to be more aggressive. I wonder why Ami didn't want Janet so subservient - is that partly based on sexual preference, and partly based on trying to avoid tendencies towards hubris?
[Exactly. Ami knows how bright she is and how, relatively, strong. So she needs to have Janet help keep her grounded. Which Janet is perfectly fine with.
Ami's interactions with Ranma have the cautious, tentative feel of those breaking the Evil Overlord rules, and knowing they're breaking them... but having little choice about it.
[And Ranma's just ammused by the whole thing.
Ranma's daughters are coming into their own power, now - capable of handling (lesser?) Fathers of the AoM on thier own.
[It was bound to happen, given their diet and training.
[Yes they were lesser. Given how Father Oslo faired against a demoness that was stronger. Though he was just up against one.
How much of a powerup did they get from killing the Fathers?
[That remains to be seen.
Right now, we appear to have (at least):
The usual Pattern issues that WIC handles on a daily basis.
[Standard stuff. Though with Alexia gone a major source of minion/style patterns has dried up.
WIC still working with the portal Ranma captured, undamaged, for them at Furinkan in the first chapter.
[Good you remember that.
Mercury's Senshi vs. Main Senshi battles... or routs, perhaps, is a better term, despite flashes of fear from Ami.
[Ami is green and does worry about her plans failing.
WIC and Brood Senshi vs. Assembly of Man battles, just starting - it's clearly worth WIC's time to eliminate AoM now, and if AoM stays in disparate platoons, that won't be hard.
[The Assembly doesn't quite realize what it got itself into.
Murdock's employers doing whatever.
Murdock doing whatever.
[hehe.
The remnants of Path of the Will doing whatever, sans leadership, and they may or may not have copies of the book.
[Yes a leaderless cult that was not terribly competant to start with.
[Thanks for the nice and detailed comments.
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Postby Crystal » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:33 pm

Good chapter.
Battle between Ranma and Father Aleksander... er... i mean Oslo, is perfect.
""Yes I see that," Ukyou smirked. "So her powerup was better hair?"
Ranma laughed as they walked. "Girls, I'm not a video game.""
=) funny.
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PCHeintz72 wrote:Yeah, they would have been counterproductive. But Ami does have plans for them

I was afraid of it. I only hope you don't them so weak as Inner or "stupid maniac" how do many authors. I forget number of chapter, where Saturn talk about Uranus and Neptune what they "don't know" or "don't remember", it's so like Ami. You want Silence?
I glad you don't forget potential of Venus, but anyway for warrior who killed Zoisite, protected Usagi from Makoto and killed Beril she so weak.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:44 pm

Crystal wrote:Good chapter.

Thanks, and welcome to the forum.
Battle between Ranma and Father Aleksander... er... i mean Oslo, is perfect.

Yah, I kinda used alot for that... homage. :p
""Yes I see that," Ukyou smirked. "So her powerup was better hair?"
Ranma laughed as they walked. "Girls, I'm not a video game.""
=) funny.

Thanks
I was afraid of it. I only hope you don't them so weak as Inner or "stupid maniac" how do many authors. I forget number of chapter, where Saturn talk about Uranus and Neptune what they "don't know" or "don't remember", it's so like Ami. You want Silence?

Heh. Yeah, the Inners will become more of a challenge to Ami, the alternative isn't pretty
I glad you don't forget potential of Venus, but anyway for warrior who killed Zoisite, protected Usagi from Makoto and killed Beril she so weak.

Yeah, Venus has some potential, she just needs to be forced to have it back
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Postby Dumbledork » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:00 pm

No need to say how much I enjoy your fics. I'm pretty sure you know by now.
Sooooo... this chapter. One of the best so far and I love your way of evolving things, slowly but surely. Makes me enjoy the fic even more. Good to see Mercury's still not sure about how to be a proper "villain". It shows in her ways to punish Virgo. In her group she tries to run a tight ship (which isn't easy) but talks to Ranma in order to get rid of some insecurities.
Funny to see how Ranma lets Happosai fondle her. Maybe she thinks that by doing this Happosai will soon lose interest. I can't imagine she'd want to collect energy from him.
And apparently Ranma has evolved some more if the hair is any clue. The hair seems to be alive. Will she be able to use it the way Mistress 9 did or does it come with some new powers? Maybe an impenetrable shield (like what Jiraya does with his hait in the Naruto series). But Ranma seems to evolve faster than her brood.
At what level are her kids now powerwise? Alexia's level or below? And will there be some additions to the brood? Especially if Mercury succeeds in increasing the number of her senshi. Can't wait to see what she's planned with Venus. Why Venus? Maybe she thinks she'd be easier to control or maybe I'm completely wrong (I'd say the latter).
So Kasumi broke up with Ranma. Well, no surprise there. She didn't seem all that enthusiastic from the start. So who will be able to fill Ranma's heast. Maybe Usagi?
And that's the bottom line 'cause Dumbledork said so.

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Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:47 pm

No need to say how much I enjoy your fics. I'm pretty sure you know by now.
[Yup, and I apreciate the commenting.
Sooooo... this chapter. One of the best so far and I love your way of evolving things, slowly but surely. Makes me enjoy the fic even more.
[Thanks. I've waited for a while to unveil this bit by bit.
Good to see Mercury's still not sure about how to be a proper "villain". It shows in her ways to punish Virgo. In her group she tries to run a tight ship (which isn't easy) but talks to Ranma in order to get rid of some insecurities.
[Yeah, Merc's still new at this. And she's right to be worried about Ranma
Funny to see how Ranma lets Happosai fondle her. Maybe she thinks that by doing this Happosai will soon lose interest. I can't imagine she'd want to collect energy from him.
[Happi is like a bratty kid in many ways.
And apparently Ranma has evolved some more if the hair is any clue. The hair seems to be alive. Will she be able to use it the way Mistress 9 did or does it come with some new powers? Maybe an impenetrable shield (like what Jiraya does with his hait in the Naruto series). But Ranma seems to evolve faster than her brood.
[Heh. Ranma is older and more powerful than her kids, so she'll evolve faster than them
At what level are her kids now powerwise? Alexia's level or below? And will there be some additions to the brood? Especially if Mercury succeeds in increasing the number of her senshi. Can't wait to see what she's planned with Venus. Why Venus? Maybe she thinks she'd be easier to control or maybe I'm completely wrong (I'd say the latter).
[Oh there's reasons for venus. hehe
[for power... well that's somethign that'll become clearer
So Kasumi broke up with Ranma. Well, no surprise there. She didn't seem all that enthusiastic from the start. So who will be able to fill Ranma's heast. Maybe Usagi?
[Ooooh, people are already playing matchmaker ^_^
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Postby khim » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:00 am

Sunshine wrote:[Heh. Ranma is older and more powerful than her kids, so she'll evolve faster than them
The law of anime ? In real life the more powerful you are the slower you are evolving - relatively speaking, of course. It's easier for trained athlete to add another pound or two of weight lifted then for novice, but it's much easier for novice to double weight lifted! It's true for speed, for power, even for unanimated objects like guns or vehicles.
Anime with it's strange laws is exception to this universal rule and there are exist some partial exceptions in real life - but to say "Ranma is more powerful so she'll evolve faster" is strange. The correct way is to say "Ranma is more powerful yet she still evolve fast" (== she's still quite far from her limits). Ranma's kids evolve quite fast actually - they just started weaker...
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:03 am

khim wrote:The law of anime ? In real life the more powerful you are the slower you are evolving - relatively speaking, of course. It's easier for trained athlete to add another pound or two of weight lifted then for novice, but it's much easier for novice to double weight lifted! It's true for speed, for power, even for unanimated objects like guns or vehicles.

Assuming that Ranma hasn't aproached the limit of diminishing returns yet.
Anime with it's strange laws is exception to this universal rule and there are exist some partial exceptions in real life - but to say "Ranma is more powerful so she'll evolve faster" is strange. The correct way is to say "Ranma is more powerful yet she still evolve fast" (== she's still quite far from her limits). Ranma's kids evolve quite fast actually - they just started weaker...

Again it's all about when diminishing returns kick in.
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