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Postby Comartemis » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:47 pm

Nested quotes, Sunny.

Glad you liked it. Heh.

I was really hoping for a Ranma/Hotaru romance, but that's clearly not going to happen here; Ranma's being way too motherly to even begin to think of Hotaru that way.

Also, for the sake of future chapters, could you try to tone down the extended eating sequences? I know food's important to a growing martial artist, but really...

"The origin of the staff is described in the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and attempted to separate them with his staff. Tiresias was immediately turned in to a woman, and so remained until he was able to repeat the act seven years later. This staff later came in to the possession of the god Hermes, along with its transformative powers."

Very nice.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:54 pm

Comartemis wrote:Nested quotes, Sunny.



Thanks. Fixed.

I was really hoping for a Ranma/Hotaru romance, but that's clearly not going to happen here; Ranma's being way too motherly to even begin to think of Hotaru that way.


Yeah, no Ranma Hotaru this time.

Also, for the sake of future chapters, could you try to tone down the extended eating sequences? I know food's important to a growing martial artist, but really...


Heh, it's fun though.

Very nice.


Yah fits pretty well.
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Postby Comartemis » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:58 pm

Yeah, no Ranma Hotaru this time.

'This time'? You mean you might have something in the works?

Please say yes, I love this couple...
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Postby Atlan » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:29 pm

Hmmm. Nice.

If this is shaping up to be a Ranma/Setsuna matchup, good idea on slowing the pace down.

It will be intresting to see what happens with Nodoka. The way she explains it, I actually started believing her views about Genma and Ukyo.

I find myself cackling madly at the idea of Ranma in a fuku with an apron.

Dare I ask about the food fixation? This is the second of two chapters featuring a disproportionate account of a single meal.
- Could Ranma be Sailor Food Critic?

It's been about 6 months since Ranma left, if i'm reading this right. Shouldnt he have run out of soap?

All up, awesome chapter. One of my favourites of all of yours.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:11 pm

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Hmmm. Nice.
[great

If this is shaping up to be a Ranma/Setsuna matchup, good idea on slowing the pace down.

[Heh, yes it looking that way.

It will be intresting to see what happens with Nodoka. The way she explains it, I actually started believing her views about Genma and Ukyo.

[She does make a convincing case ^_^

I find myself cackling madly at the idea of Ranma in a fuku with an apron.

[Yeah, her uniform is great fun

Dare I ask about the food fixation? This is the second of two chapters featuring a disproportionate account of a single meal.
- Could Ranma be Sailor Food Critic?

[Ranma always liked food. And Setsuna liked fine food.
[So things will combine.

It's been about 6 months since Ranma left, if i'm reading this right. Shouldnt he have run out of soap?
[Yes, she will have to get more.

All up, awesome chapter. One of my favourites of all of yours.
[That's great to hear.
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Postby Kimina » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:12 pm

Yeah I think Yatta is a form of expressing happiness, like saying yay or something, I dunno >.>
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Postby Sky » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:38 pm

Great chapter. The omake was comedy gold.

I hope I'm not repeating anything here, but...

I thought that Ranma showed extreme restraint with her mother, but I guess you need Nodoka to have a fairly fixed view of things, eh? I'm surprised that when Akane went after Ranma for being mean with Nodoka she didn't comment on the fact that if Nodoka asked the right questions, Nabiki could get curious. I know Nodoka said she'd be discrete, but that came after Akane pulled Ranma aside.


"Getting them drunk?" Hotaru innocently asked as she scooted closer to Ranma.


Out of the mouths of babes...

"I know, one finds it hard to believe, but we both know sometimes... people will hold secrets, even from those they're closest too."


...closest to?

The older women glanced at her watch and stood up . "Dear men, I really must be going."


Dear me?
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Postby Spokavriel » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:39 pm

V4e is the version the story was on when I read it. It's a bit long.
"Really? What's good," Nami beamed. "I'm amazed at how fast you picked this out, thank you," she said, bowing to Etsuko.
I havn't seen What's good in a situation like this before. Could you have intended to have That's good there or the Nami Beamed elsewhere with an is to link the good with the I'm. It just seems a bit off.

"Well that's good, I remember the fun my husband had on his training trips. It's good that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memories at what she thought, her future daughter in law.
Just tossing this in to draw attention to it. I don't know why I can't quite find anything truely wrong but it still feels wrong. Almost like the added emphasis on Akane's status isn't worked in right but I can't think of how to describe it.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.
When it comes to crowds I tend to think past tence with the plural. Not entirely sure why but cutting that to just crowd seems better to me.

She watched over them just a more minutes before retreating back into the living room.
I can't help thinking you lost a few in this one.

Flexing her fingers, Ranma try to imagine herself holding... something and as if to answer that desire, something did happen.
I think tries or trying maybe even tried would fit a little better in here than just simply try.

"Mirror? The Nanaba Mirror? You've seen it?" Setsuna asked. She had been looking for that pesky thing for a while.
Even in the subs I read it was the Nanban mirror. But it might have been a error definately something for me to double check.

"Unfoundedly, to preserve the surprise they couldn't make it here," Setsuna explained after the course was setup and their tea was refreshed.
Undoubtably seems to fit allot more with the start of this than Unfoundedly. Wouldn't unfounded be without a basis. It's hard to equate that in something there.

Great chapter I really like how you got Nabiki's efforts clearly shown but not overdone. The headaches from Nodoka showing up. Opening the doors to everything being told as a posibility. You have allot of great things happening here. But I have to wonder are you going to try to end every chapter with a Better Desert?

Next Chapter doesn't look like it's going to be any easier. It's time to start getting deeper into the SM Universe. You've distanced pretty well from Ranma's past life without burning bridges to it. I just hope that the sickness won't be something like a reaction to what's left of her male aspect dieing or something. I know it would fit and all but well it just something I've seen a few times and it often ends up leading to messes I wish I hadn't seen in print. At least you aren't doing something as well automatic as I saw elsewhere on that if you are.

I really hope the wait will be shorter between chapters 2 and 3 than they were in seeing 2 come out. But there are Other stories that I would also love to see more chapters of. Pretty much everything you have written with the exception of Gunslinger Moon. It's nicely done but ends up with the distinction of being the only story I have seen so far that I could take or leave. Plenty of fans of it to beg for that without me. ;) Well that's my C&C based on reading now to see what else I have to say after seeing others comments.

Reading Vania's post It is nice to see an Akane with at least as much inteligence as shown through her thoughts in the Anime. Too many people dumb her down or play her all emotion. Akane felt like well the same Akane I saw there only in new situations.

Will Ranma ever have a time and place where it fits to come clean with at least her friend who met her mom? Leaving something like that hanging too long could put a strain on the friendship. It's not like questions involved in all that can go away without seeming hokey.

You do know that the previous chapter needs a reload in some browsers to display fully on Fanfiction.net right?

The comment on the Mirror scene has me wondering if Ranma's not telling enough to Setsuna. I'd think Ranma should probably have a moment remembering that sleepless time and some kind of realization with it later on to put some urgency into asking Setsuna about it.

It seems Vania also caught the Nanban mirror. Still not certain on the spelling and furinkin.net didn't help.

So you did get corrected on the Mirror's spelling. That's good. Wow it's already to 3 pages of comments I should read faster on the forum pages. You probably already corrected most of what I spotted.

::Groan:: Reading Dumbledork's post Havn't there been enough Crystal Tokyo obsessed Omnipotent Setsunas? Can't you trust that this one only looked to see that Ranma was a good person? Convincing Furinkin to testify? Seems to be subscribing to the thought of Ranma having that school in Thrall. But She hasn't even attended there since the whole attempt to sell her off so I don't see that happening.

There are times I regret reading others comments please don't take my comments about them personaly.

Not sure about the nitpicking at the end of the hug I mean it seems more inclusive to me. Rounding out a Warm Fuzzy moment.

I have trouble seeing where some of B'Man's imput helps at all and if you use its should that it's punctuation be in the contraction at all?
About the Screwing up courage. I'm guessing B'man hasn't read anything more recent than the 1900's or never turns on a Television. Allot of turns of phrase have even been tossed in Xenna or M*A*S*H* or just about a thousand things newer than the introduction of Color to TV.

About Konoko's thoughts to other things that could be used instead of the Classic Fuku there is a thread converting allot of Uniforms into Fuku. Maybe a counter thread could be started seeing what other clothes work as good as Fuku. And Sunny linked the Uniforms thread. TY kindly.

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Postby Kimina » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:55 am

Can't wait for the next chapter. But it's probably a long ways off, to properly execute a chapter this long.
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:34 am

Sky

Great chapter. The omake was comedy gold.
[Thanks, glad that worked.

I hope I'm not repeating anything here, but...

I thought that Ranma showed extreme restraint with her mother, but I guess you need Nodoka to have a fairly fixed view of things, eh? I'm surprised that when Akane went after Ranma for being mean with Nodoka she didn't comment on the fact that if Nodoka asked the right questions, Nabiki could get curious. I know Nodoka said she'd be discrete, but that came after Akane pulled Ranma aside.

[Yes, Nodoka is being a problem.
[Interesting point.

"Getting them drunk?" Hotaru innocently asked as she scooted closer to Ranma.


Out of the mouths of babes...
[Heh, very true.

"I know, one finds it hard to believe, but we both know sometimes... people will hold secrets, even from those they're closest too."


...closest to?

[correct

The older women glanced at her watch and stood up . "Dear men, I really must be going."


Dear me?

[yup.

Spokavriel

V4e is the version the story was on when I read it. It's a bit long.

[that's okay.

"Really? What's good," Nami beamed. "I'm amazed at how fast you picked this out, thank you," she said, bowing to Etsuko.
I havn't seen What's good in a situation like this before. Could you have intended to have That's good there or the Nami Beamed elsewhere with an is to link the good with the I'm. It just seems a bit off.

[yes meant that's good

"Well that's good, I remember the fun my husband had on his training trips. It's good that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memories at what she thought, her future daughter in law.
Just tossing this in to draw attention to it. I don't know why I can't quite find anything truely wrong but it still feels wrong. Almost like the added emphasis on Akane's status isn't worked in right but I can't think of how to describe it.

[Hmm.. well if you figure it out more and how to change it, I will.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.
When it comes to crowds I tend to think past tence with the plural. Not entirely sure why but cutting that to just crowd seems better to me.

[It's just plural

She watched over them just a more minutes before retreating back into the living room.
I can't help thinking you lost a few in this one.

[[
She watched them both just a more minutes before retreating back into the living room.
]]

Flexing her fingers, Ranma try to imagine herself holding... something and as if to answer that desire, something did happen.
I think tries or trying maybe even tried would fit a little better in here than just simply try.

[tried

"Mirror? The Nanaba Mirror? You've seen it?" Setsuna asked. She had been looking for that pesky thing for a while.
Even in the subs I read it was the Nanban mirror. But it might have been a error definately something for me to double check.

[yah Nanban seems to be the consensus.

"Unfoundedly, to preserve the surprise they couldn't make it here," Setsuna explained after the course was setup and their tea was refreshed.
Undoubtably seems to fit allot more with the start of this than Unfoundedly. Wouldn't unfounded be without a basis. It's hard to equate that in something there.

[Unfortunately

Great chapter I really like how you got Nabiki's efforts clearly shown but not overdone. The headaches from Nodoka showing up. Opening the doors to everything being told as a posibility. You have allot of great things happening here. But I have to wonder are you going to try to end every chapter with a Better Desert?

[Good, glad that went well.
[Well, I would like to have the confections continue.

Next Chapter doesn't look like it's going to be any easier. It's time to start getting deeper into the SM Universe. You've distanced pretty well from Ranma's past life without burning bridges to it. I just hope that the sickness won't be something like a reaction to what's left of her male aspect dieing or something. I know it would fit and all but well it just something I've seen a few times and it often ends up leading to messes I wish I hadn't seen in print. At least you aren't doing something as well automatic as I saw elsewhere on that if you are.

[It's nothing that dark no.
[It would be redundant and silly to have Ranma's male aspect "die off" from Senshi magic.
[And yes, Ranma does need to get deeper into it.
[She's already friends (or more) with all the outers so that helps.


I really hope the wait will be shorter between chapters 2 and 3 than they were in seeing 2 come out.
[Me too, me too.

But there are Other stories that I would also love to see more chapters of. Pretty much everything you have written with the exception of Gunslinger Moon. It's nicely done but ends up with the distinction of being the only story I have seen so far that I could take or leave. Plenty of fans of it to beg for that without me. ;) Well that's my C&C based on reading now to see what else I have to say after seeing others comments.

[Heh. That's good.
[Yeah I do want to get to some of my other fics. Namely Gen Lost and Makeover. Though Return and Windborne are on my mind too.

Reading Vania's post It is nice to see an Akane with at least as much inteligence as shown through her thoughts in the Anime. Too many people dumb her down or play her all emotion. Akane felt like well the same Akane I saw there only in new situations.

[Yes, that is the key here. How they react to these situations.

Will Ranma ever have a time and place where it fits to come clean with at least her friend who met her mom? Leaving something like that hanging too long could put a strain on the friendship. It's not like questions involved in all that can go away without seeming hokey.

[*nods* Something has to be done with them.

You do know that the previous chapter needs a reload in some browsers to display fully on Fanfiction.net right?

[Hah! Oh that's great.

The comment on the Mirror scene has me wondering if Ranma's not telling enough to Setsuna. I'd think Ranma should probably have a moment remembering that sleepless time and some kind of realization with it later on to put some urgency into asking Setsuna about it.

[Hmm... that should come up, maybe later. When Ranma's thinking more clearly

It seems Vania also caught the Nanban mirror. Still not certain on the spelling and furinkin.net didn't help.

So you did get corrected on the Mirror's spelling. That's good. Wow it's already to 3 pages of comments I should read faster on the forum pages. You probably already corrected most of what I spotted.
[yah it's going pretty well
[actually no. They weren't taken already.

::Groan:: Reading Dumbledork's post Havn't there been enough Crystal Tokyo obsessed Omnipotent Setsunas? Can't you trust that this one only looked to see that Ranma was a good person? Convincing Furinkin to testify? Seems to be subscribing to the thought of Ranma having that school in Thrall. But She hasn't even attended there since the whole attempt to sell her off so I don't see that happening.

[Yes, this is a more open Setsuna.
[Yeah, the school also doesn't have much on Nabiki. This isn't the fanon Nabiki that ran the school with an iron fist. Nabiki is an opportunist, and she took Huang's opportunity

There are times I regret reading others comments please don't take my comments about them personaly.
[*nods*

Not sure about the nitpicking at the end of the hug I mean it seems more inclusive to me. Rounding out a Warm Fuzzy moment.
[That was our intention


I have trouble seeing where some of B'Man's imput helps at all and if you use its should that it's punctuation be in the contraction at all?
About the Screwing up courage. I'm guessing B'man hasn't read anything more recent than the 1900's or never turns on a Television. Allot of turns of phrase have even been tossed in Xenna or M*A*S*H* or just about a thousand things newer than the introduction of Color to TV.

[I dunno. B'Man was just trying to help.

About Konoko's thoughts to other things that could be used instead of the Classic Fuku there is a thread converting allot of Uniforms into Fuku. Maybe a counter thread could be started seeing what other clothes work as good as Fuku. And Sunny linked the Uniforms thread. TY kindly.

[Yup, it's a good thread.

Knew a Gunslinger Moon fan would post before I finished this. Oops Sky posted as I was copying and posting this into submit it.


[heh, not surprised by that.

[And yes Kimina. The next chapter will probably take a while to come out. Shame, but that's just the nature of these chapters.


[In other news. J St C Patrick, in addition to checking this thing for mistakes via multiple sweeps and making art of the characters has written another OMAKE for the chapter.

[It can be found in the file for ch2 v5a

[Speaking of art. Pat did a drawing for ch2 here
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Postby Spokavriel » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:44 am

Original wrote:"Well that's good, I remember the fun my husband had on his training trips. It's good that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memories at what she thought, her future daughter in law.

"Well that's good, I remember how much fun my husband had on his training trips. It's nice that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memory at, she thought, her future daughter in law.
How about this. The double up on good in the first version kinda put me in allert mode. So I changed the seccond good with nice. Then I took a liberty changing The fun to how much fun. And to iron out the last bit I took out the what and put in a comma. What may fit because she is thinking of a position not a person but it was rubbing me the wrong way.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.
When it comes to crowds I tend to think past tence with the plural. Not entirely sure why but cutting that to just crowd seems better to me.

[It's just plural
On the sidewalk thing again. When Crowds are Plural was just doesn't seem to fit right to me.

[[
She watched them both just a more minutes before retreating back into the living room.
]]
You copied the identicle line back at me without adding few or couple or anything to help define the time.

I have to read that updated version still. I also like the artwork but wonder about the Green glasses.
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Postby Cyber_Skaarj » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:01 am

Another excellent bit of story telling. I hope it isn't too long before the next chapter is released (though I'm sure Konoko is going to keep me entertained in the meantime with more chapters to preread, especially of Wild Magic).

The one thing I have to comment on, however, is the length of the chapters. Whilest I myself am a rabid reader much of the time (I once read a series of 5 books in the same number of days, and they weren't short books either), it's going to be a bit annoying for those who want to sit down a read a chapter of a fic for a short while before doing other things, only to find themselves still reading the same chapter an hour or two later.

I know I'm probably being a bit petty picking up on that, but I seriously think these chapters are a lot longer than those you find in professional novels, let alone other fan fiction works (Jeffrey Vasquez' story Realms suffers from the same problem, even if I do devour that fic just as eagerly).
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Postby nuriko » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:02 am

Well, I'm going to say "yay!" anyway, but I'm afraid I have to point out a couple of things...

"It very obvious," Nodoka explained in an almost teacher-like way and began ticking off points with her fingers.


I think you mean "It is very obvious," as opposed to what ends up more like Shampoo-speak.

"Yes, in addition to your improved decorum, you have a much more mature pallet," Setsuna added.


You mean palate, not pallet ... there's no shipping going on here.
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Postby StarEyed » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:09 pm

Very nice, although the food scenes did seem a bit long.

And now for my grammar nitpick.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.


if you're using plural for crowds if should be;

The crowds on the sidewalk were starting to thicken...
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Postby Sunshine Temple » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:36 pm

Spokavriel

Original wrote:"Well that's good, I remember the fun my husband had on his training trips. It's good that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memories at what she thought, her future daughter in law.

"Well that's good, I remember how much fun my husband had on his training trips. It's nice that he's taking our son on so many." Nodoka smiled in fond memory at, she thought, her future daughter in law.
How about this. The double up on good in the first version kinda put me in allert mode. So I changed the seccond good with nice. Then I took a liberty changing The fun to how much fun. And to iron out the last bit I took out the what and put in a comma. What may fit because she is thinking of a position not a person but it was rubbing me the wrong way.

[yeah that does work better.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.
When it comes to crowds I tend to think past tence with the plural. Not entirely sure why but cutting that to just crowd seems better to me.

[It's just plural
On the sidewalk thing again. When Crowds are Plural was just doesn't seem to fit right to me.

[Try this version

[[
The crowds, on the sidewalk, were starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk
]]

[[
She watched them both just a more minutes before retreating back into the living room.
]]
You copied the identicle line back at me without adding few or couple or anything to help define the time.

[Actually I made it a bit clearer

I have to read that updated version still. I also like the artwork but wonder about the Green glasses.


[the green's actually a function of her glasses


Cyber_Skaarj


Another excellent bit of story telling. I hope it isn't too long before the next chapter is released (though I'm sure Konoko is going to keep me entertained in the meantime with more chapters to preread, especially of Wild Magic).

[Me too. We'll have to see how the next one goes.

The one thing I have to comment on, however, is the length of the chapters. Whilest I myself am a rabid reader much of the time (I once read a series of 5 books in the same number of days, and they weren't short books either), it's going to be a bit annoying for those who want to sit down a read a chapter of a fic for a short while before doing other things, only to find themselves still reading the same chapter an hour or two later.

[It's a challenge. We both feel that longer chapters are required for this.
[given the pacing

I know I'm probably being a bit petty picking up on that, but I seriously think these chapters are a lot longer than those you find in professional novels, let alone other fan fiction works (Jeffrey Vasquez' story Realms suffers from the same problem, even if I do devour that fic just as eagerly).

[That's probably true.

nuriko

Well, I'm going to say "yay!" anyway, but I'm afraid I have to point out a couple of things...

"It very obvious," Nodoka explained in an almost teacher-like way and began ticking off points with her fingers.


I think you mean "It is very obvious," as opposed to what ends up more like Shampoo-speak.

[yup

"Yes, in addition to your improved decorum, you have a much more mature pallet," Setsuna added.


You mean palate, not pallet ... there's no shipping going on here.
[Yeah, now that's a good catch. Thanks


StarEyed

Very nice, although the food scenes did seem a bit long.
[heh


And now for my grammar nitpick.

The crowds on the sidewalk was starting to thicken as the 'early birds' of the night life crawled out of their daytime dens and into the dusk.


if you're using plural for crowds if should be;

The crowds on the sidewalk were starting to thicken.

[yeah, that's what I thought was wrong


[Okay onto v5b
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