Ranma 1/2 - Sailor Moon : Rise of the Four Beasts

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Ranma 1/2 - Sailor Moon : Rise of the Four Beasts

Postby lcpoketoon » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:13 pm

Hello all,
It’s me again with another story idea from my bin of never going to get a chance to do it. This story idea came about from wondering just how would the scouts deal with another force for good showing up. The setting time line wise was the end of Ranma and during the Death buster’s arch of Sailormoon.
The story starts a week after the failed wedding when Ranma walks into the cursed items store. Inside he finds what looks like a pendent shaped like a phoenix with a red crystal set in it. The shop keeper tells him with it he might be able to cure his curse. All he needs to do is cut his palm and place the wound on the crystal. Well Ranma jumps at the chance to use it before anyone could stop him and misses hearing the shopkeeper’s warring. When he triggers the item surround him in a egg made up of chi , mana and his own ki. Inside the egg Ranma’s body is destroyed an then remade while he relives his memories of his life from the very start, even memories of his time in the nekoken and when he hits his head an thought he was a girl. Cologne and Happosai notice the flare of energy and come to see what was happening in time to see the Egg hatch freeing the reborn Ranma. He’s a little taller and his hair would be black near the roots but slowly lighten to red at the tips. His eyes would be the same color save his pupils are now golden and slitted like a cat’s. He would be dressed in a long red silk Chinese style coat with gold trim, with red silk pants and golden slippers. On the back of his right hand would be the pendent.
Ranma would have all the memories and skills of his past life but none of the emotional attachments to those memories. Ranma would now have the power to change to a girl when he wants to an his girls side changes are a little more noticeable as she now as tall as male Ranma and now she looks more sexy then cute. He wouldn’t feel the need to be hld to any of the promises made by family as he did die. He would be drawn to seek out his new siblings the Dragon, the Turtle and the Tiger, a need that comes from his pendent the Phoenix. But just because the new Ranma doesn’t feel a connection to the Nerima Crew doesn’t mean they are going to let him go that easily.
Ranma would leave being drawn to the nearest of the other three pendents. One that could be in Jubban. Once there I was thinking he could showing up during one Sailor scouts early fights against a Daimon. Ranma wouldn’t be all powerful in this his Ki levels are about the same as they were before they just don’t have the limit they did, also Ranma now can tap into a use Chi on reflex to create flames and he now has a well of mana energy inside him with his Ki. Watching the Saliors battle will help Ranma learn to use his own Mana energies. Ranma would use a fireball attack to take down the monster but leave before any of the girls could bother him as he still working on the memories of his last life. Ranma fireball attack would work as the core is a ball of pure Ki and around it flows a mix of hot Chi and flame Mana energy.
I pictured the Sailors trying to learn more about this new guy while in Nerima the crew are hunting for Ranma. I was thinking that one of the other pendents could of ended up with the one girl Naru in SailorMoon an this leads her to talking Ranma into helping fight evil since it so often seemed to come after her.
The Main Reason I never wrote this is I’ve got no real idea on how Sailor Moon goes. I’ve been trying to get the Manga to read but haven’t found any copies of it. So I’m posting the idea to those who are interested and know a lot about Sailor Moon. So if anyone likes the idea and uses it to write a story just give me the credit for the idea.
Oh and a No-Prize to those who can guess where I picked the Four Beasts for the pendents.
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Postby DCG » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:37 pm

"Hi! Im Mr.SI. I used to be some one named Ranma, but idroped him like a bad habbit. Ditched the girl body that helped make me what i am, Got new looks, and even a new way of thinking! Now if you'll excuse me i got a date with some hotties in juban."
It may just be me, but thats what i read in your post.
Hate to say it, well not really, But that would make one lame ass story.
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Postby holyknight » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:07 pm

DITTO. :roll:
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Postby lcpoketoon » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:40 pm

Well then you didn't really read my post. First off Ranma still has his girl side it's just now more a part of him he doesn't mind being a girl and will even spend time as one.
An Ranma looks don't change that much outside of hair color and his eyes. He gets maybe a few inches taller and more defined muscle tone. Ranma also doesn't change much from his core he still belives it's his duty to protect those weaker then himself and keep his promises, but he just doesn't feel a need to keep promises from before he was reborn. After all one of the things he is able to do after his rebirth is look at the way things were going with out emoitions getting in the way an pick the best option for him an the others involed. with saying that Ranma died it frees Uyko, the Tendos and Shampoo from haveing to marry him, and the contract with his mom is delt with as Ranma did die. Not this would stop from Kodachi chaseing after him ot shampoo seeking to challage him to another fight so she can get him as her husband again.
As for Ranma going to Jubban he's going there becuse he senses one of the other Four Beasts pendents there. He only learns about the Sailors when he comes across them in a battle and he doesn't stick around as his memories tell him girls are nothing but trouble to him in the long run. As for him and Naru i was thinking they would see each other as siblings with it being the same when the other two of the 4 are found.
Also with this idea i was more that Ranma not end up with any of the Sailor girls. Mainly because later on the Sailor girls would have to battle the Four Beasts who duty it is to keep balance in the world. I never really got much more past that as I don't know enough about Sailormoon to write the this idea into a story. what i do know about Sailor moon comes from fanfics.
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Postby WG_Writer » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:42 pm

One of the big things that make this an SI is the sudden magical change. since its change without character devolopment and time, lots of time, it is no longer Ranma. To put it bluntly, you did get rid of Ranma entirely. Please answer this one question, Why are you using Ranma for this story?
This Character shares some vague looks with Ranma (Changing his appearance changes a lot)
This Character has the same general morals (not hard, many fictional characters are like him in this regard)
This Character is both genders mentally (Ranma is at times, but when it comes down to it he uses his girl form as a tool, nothing more)
This Character sees his own past as dead (This is 100% against Ranma, there was only two times that he would have left his life behind without a second thought, Moxybustion, and the Herb arcs, and only that when he lost core attributes (stregnth and manhood)
This Character is part cat part Phoenix (from your description it implies he has neko-ken mastery)
It is not your Idea that is at fault, rather your implementation.
If you can give a good answer to that question (Why are you using Ranma for this story?) without using an answer like: Because I want to. Because Ranma is a cool character. or even, I thought it was a good idea. Then you will get more respect for this.
If you want advise on how to keep your story without going in a direction that stops him from being Ranma you need to do this:
First: No instant personality 180, or 90, or 45. A change is a good thing, but take it slow. magic+personality change = new character
Second: Kill the appearance change immediately, it can happen suddenly, but doing it all at once with the personality enhances the new character impression
Third: Keep the drawn to the others, this may be an old story idea but it is very useful as a plot device and gives your story a way to get a Cannon Ranma out of Nerima.
Fourth: No dumping fiancees, if you do it, use a plausable reason. They followed Ryoga to find Ranma, Sailor Pluto was throwing them off, They stupidly went to China for some dumb reason. Ranma values his honor far too much to simply drop 'em cold like that, plus he cares for all of them. Even if it is in so far as just to stroke his Ego.
If it is as you say they are the same personality, show it, prove it. Read Heir of the Empire for a good example of an apparent memory dump and how it changes, yet, doesn't change him.
As to the power up by fusing with a Phoenix life form. Power-ups can work, if done carefully. If done carelessly its either pointless or a Mary Sue. And an SI Mary Sue story will get flame baked.
As I said the general idea is Ok, but its what there is of an implementation that stops if from being Ranma.
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Postby Tovath » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:20 pm

I like the idea of useing Naru not many fanfics even remember she exists.
The four beasts are the gaurdian gods. They show up in a lot of anime. Surposely in the the center is the Kirin who is their leader, now what if you made Shingo (Usagi's little brother) the Kirin.
I have to agree about Ranma though have the changes come slowly.
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Postby Anchoku » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:30 pm

I'm... sorry... but I have to agree with the brutally honest critics. It's not wrong for Ranma to end up the way you have him but this is a fanfic; meaning you need to develop the original character into your own. Leaping directly into OOC-ness is just like doing a SI or, original fic. A lot of my favorite stories centered around a transition between canon and some other end-point. Moving too quickly to the conclusion is a disservice to your idea and the reader.
Please work on laying out the background details and showing how Ranma's behavior might change. That's where the heart of the story is.
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Re: Ranma 1/2 - Sailor Moon : Rise of the Four Beasts

Postby Daniel Jess Gibson » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:51 pm

lcpoketoon wrote:Hello all,
The Main Reason I never wrote this is I’ve got no real idea on how Sailor Moon goes. I’ve been trying to get the Manga to read but haven’t found any copies of it. So I’m posting the idea to those who are interested and know a lot about Sailor Moon. So if anyone likes the idea and uses it to write a story just give me the credit for the idea.

The manga can be found at https://www.sasugabooks.com/ at $77 US for the whole set. There are plenty of fan translations available. it's what I did.
lcpoketoon wrote:Oh and a No-Prize to those who can guess where I picked the Four Beasts for the pendents.

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Over all, I'd be a lot more inclined to read a story where these changes came over Ranma slowly, say over two weeks, a growing alienation to his friends and rivals, a realization that he was died and that has erased all previous claims on him. The mad escape from Nerima to Juuban as much to seek the other pendant holders as escape these people he no longer cares about.
You also forgot that the pairs are rivals, even enemies, I doubt he'd want to `awaken` his enemy. Of course he could fall for Naru, then discover that she was his rival.
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Re: Ranma 1/2 - Sailor Moon : Rise of the Four Beasts

Postby Knight of L-sama » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:02 am

lcpoketoon wrote: a egg made up of chi , mana and his own ki.

Chi (or qi to use more accurate pinyin) and ki are the same thing. It's the same basic concept and the only differences reflect the origins of the specific words. Chi/qi is taken from standard Chinese, ki is from Japanese.
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Postby lwf58 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:56 am

Yep. The Japanese got a great deal of their culture by "borrowing" it from the Chinese. Medicine, writing, textiles like silk, art, their system of feudal government, the Buddhist religion, and about 40% of the words in their language are Chinese imports or adapted from Chinese. The concept of chi, and the related medical arts such as accupuncture, accupressure and moxibustion, are all Chinese concepts adopted by the Japanese. Much of the importation occurred in the 6th century, when for the first time, there was extensive trade between the Han dynasty and the people of Japan.
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Postby crystlshake » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:41 am

The Naru pendant choice would be pretty good. Since her mom works in that jewelry store or whatever it could be something that got pawned off or sold to end up in the inventory where she stumbles into anouther fantastic encounter. I suppose a good part of how workable that angle is deals with how picky the jewelry is. If it causes bad mojo for anyone it doesnt like (ala the one ring) it would give a workable base for someone selling it and it not being activated by a previous owner. Semi sentience could also allow you to trigger the blood activation with her and the other characters that pick one up.
Perhaps throw some gas on the sittuation by after the light show having him normal but with the pendant. Perhaps locks his curse from triggering until his metamorphasis is complete. An apparent cure attatched to his hand would give Ranma plenty of reason to clear out fast. Some individuals such as Mouse probably wouldnt be too squeemish about cutting of the pendant or his hand to get to it.
As far as the wardrobe Id have him change it as he tries to cover up physical changes to his body from notice (permanenet or temporary). A jewel stuck in your hand would draw a lot of attention, and if he's dodging curse victims he'll probably want to hide it from view. Perhaps his skin attains an odd color or marks that he hides with longer clothes. Seeing his eyes change will probably freak him out and he may adopt wearing shades to hide his eyes from others and himself.
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Postby Innortal » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:17 pm

The way most people explain it, ki is your own energy, chi is the energy outside you *my ki is your chi, and vice versa).
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Postby Seraphim » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:17 pm

Tovath wrote:I like the idea of useing Naru not many fanfics even remember she exists.
The four beasts are the gaurdian gods. They show up in a lot of anime. Surposely in the the center is the Kirin who is their leader, now what if you made Shingo (Usagi's little brother) the Kirin.
I have to agree about Ranma though have the changes come slowly.

It's Kouryuu the 'Golden Dragon' (*nudge nudge*) that is in the centre, associated with the Emperor, who also has power over Earth (^.~), supposedly. :lol:
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Postby DCG » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:48 pm

what the hells with the thread necromancy?
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