Genma Addams

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Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:24 pm

Spokavriel wrote:Just to get a little further away from that I was looking at Addams family things. Cartoons Movies etc. Something kept coming to mind when they would talk about pranks pulled in childhood. All of it made Genma's Training of Ranma look Mild. Then look at Gomez and Tish. An eccentric fighter quite skilled in his art with a stately traditional woman for his wife.

So that had me wondering could it be possible to make a fic where Genma is an Addams?

They have allot of distant relations even just considering all the people they danced the Mamushka for.

The way this would work is since the Addams family name is far from being at risk Genma would have married into Nodoka's clan. And all the training really was just converting standard Addams kids pranks so that they provide the best possible Martial Arts training advantage.

So any chance?

KonokoHasano wrote:Spokavriel: That idea has 'Hilarity Ensues' potential if done right.

Spokavriel wrote: I was thinking having it come to light after the failed wedding. Perhaps having a Vulture sitting on the rubble of the Dojo when Genma tosses Ranma out the window one morning soon after that event to begin a morning spar. And Nodoka going over to it to claim the message just as if it were a Harry Potter Delivery Owl.

That would lead to a revelation at breakfast that the only way Nodoka was able to keep the house while Genma was on his training trip was by reaching out to his relatives for support. And she was just then getting word back on assistance for rebuilding the Saotome home. Not only was a message sent but the head house of the Addams clan decided to come out with his family to see how bad the mess is while getting in a vacation in Tokyo.

KonokoHasano wrote:Keep the house?

If it's after the failed wedding fiasco, then it would have already been noted that the original house the Saotomes used to live in wasn't the one Nodoka was living in before THAT house got demolished by Ukyo and the others.

Spokavriel wrote: Um I guess I wasn't clear on the timing. I was planning for Nodoka to reveal that morning that given she never had a job and Genma running up bills the Saotome house would have been lost had she not gotten in touch with the Addams (Genma's relatives) for support. And the Vulture was only that morning bringing word to her in response to the destruction of the Saotome home over the suspected ring pill box.

The Vulture gets there after the failed wedding and the Addams Family are already on their way to town.

Does that help with the timing?

Edit: Oops I think I'm missusing a thread again. Please look for quotes on this to respond to that question under Genma Addams in Ideas. It should be there shortly.

To make this a little easier. After Genma and Ranma go on the Training trip Genma's bills start coming home even though the Martial Artist hasn't. After a while Genma's bar tabs and restitution for other exploits have nearly bankrupted Nodoka. She contacts the Addams Family and they support her through the rest of the training trip.

Before the fic the last time Nodoka sent off word to Gomez was the destruction of the Saotome home by Ranma's Fiancées and the Vulture only just managed to find the Tendo home (A place it had never been before) to get the word to Nodoka after the failed wedding.

Vultures may have a great sense of smell but it doesn't help when it has to search along all the old usual/habitual paths a person uses before tracking down where the sent is spending its time now.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Anchoku » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:50 am

Interesting idea

In the Adams Family, Gomez and Morticia have a lot of extended family as well as spooky acquaintances from outside the family, though most are merely referred to.

Your idea might work in several other ways. Nodoka might be from a spooky family rather than Genma. Her strange, oblivious behavior and sword fetish could lend itself to your story quite easily. After all, she did fall asleep in the closet with her sword while waiting to ambush Ranma and Genma.

You could also freak Ranma out by engaging him to Wednesday, or, worse yet, Pugsly, It, or even Thing.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:15 am

I was thinking of Nodoka more as a child of one of the families that was not only one of the old Samurai clans (The honor sword still in their possession) but also one of the homes that clung to Samurai traditions during Reconstruction. Allot of the kids from those environments ended up facing a culture shock any time they had to go to school because even the single sex classes where individuality is shunned was too modern and Americanized compared to the history their families were trying to relive.

(Note this is not reality I am describing this is the extreme parody of it for the fic that I think Nodoka should have grown up in.)

Edit: Something more came to mind when posting. Martial Arts were still outlawed when Nodoka was young. And her Family had archived but given up practice of their martial arts so as not to end up outlaws and losing face for other clans they are related to. So that leaves another school of Martial arts possibility for the fic. Maybe even one that Nodoka could have let Gomez being a distant relation start learning sword forms from?

I'm really good at building histories. Filling in a plot is something I've never quite gotten down yet. But I feel with more history it's easier to have things that can come up and be more natural when the story is progressing.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:16 am

Ok I think I have a handle on how I want the sequence of events to go. The Time line will have Nodoka having to seek help from the Addams in America a little less than half way into the Training Trip time. That way there has been years of interaction between her and the Addams to help enhance her unique peculiarities.

The Story will start the day after the failed wedding when the Vulture finally manages to catch up to Nodoka. She'll retrieve the letter causing everyone to question what is going on and that is when she will reveal that to keep the Saotome home during Genma's Training Trip she had to reach out to his relatives for assistance to settle the debts he was racking up. That will end up going into a story of, a more normal Japanese Housewife of this era, Nodoka first meeting the Addams Family. To cap off that first story she'll reveal that the letter from the Vulture says they should be in town as early as today.

The real questions to get that all together are who would have come on that visit? The whole household? And how old should I have the Addams children be. Sure in Cartoons and Cameos it's easier to have them be grade/primary school aged but what would fit for this idea?
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:25 am

Spokavriel wrote:The real questions to get that all together are who would have come on that visit? The whole household? And how old should I have the Addams children be. Sure in Cartoons and Cameos it's easier to have them be grade/primary school aged but what would fit for this idea?[/color]

It seems easy enough. Let the Addams kids be as they were on TV (which looked late grade school) when Nodoka first goes to them for help. Then they'd be five or six years older - about Ranma's age - when Ranma finally shows up. You can have your cake, and eat it too!
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:59 pm

I'm really wishing I still had the TV series. I had recorded allot of it on VHS way back when but I don't have those tapes anymore.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Karei » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:39 am

Spokavriel wrote: I'm really wishing I still had the TV series. I had recorded allot of it on VHS way back when but I don't have those tapes anymore.

Well you can at least watch them online now.
The Addams Family seasons 1 and 2 on Hulu.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Neko- » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:04 am

I can't... Hulu hates dutchies...
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:43 pm

Not quite through watching the episodes on Hulu but I have already found out some interesting useful information.

A bit of relationship information.
Gomez Addams
. The Vulture was initially Gomez's pet
Morticia (Frump) Addams (Blue eyes black hair)
. Kitty was Morticia's Pet she had him and Cleopatra
. . . . . . . . . .(Even though Cleopatra was earlier said to be 3 years old in season 1)
Aunt Ophilia Frump was Gomez's original Fiancée and Morticia's older sister.
Esther Frump (Morticia's Mother)
Fester ?Frump? (Uncle to Morticia)
Lurch
. Mama Lurch
Grandmama Addams, s.k.a. Madame Bovary (Gomez's mother)
Wednesday Friday Addams
. Wednesday is Friends with the Son of the invisible man.
Pugsley Addams
Cousin Itt (Cousin to Gomez)
Thing
. Lady Fingers (Millicent's hand maiden Fiancée to Thing)
. . .Princess Millicent VonSchlepp (Gomez's Aunt)
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby ckosacranoid » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:09 pm

you could get really funny and add in the musters also being part of the family........

this could be very funny to see when ranma things of it as a cat or something......
much less the reaction of happy when thing lands on him.....
you would have to include the whole family....pugsly vs. happy in being the mad bomber just has to be done.....
friday vs. the black rose for being creepy and poision know how is also being added...
gomez showing kuno how to fence.....
morti showing kasime how to run the house......a very dark and creepy kas.....and helping him catch the doc.....
lurch dealing with the other hidden charaters they hide everywhere......
the old ghoul dealing with grandmamma in being sneaky and setting things up......

sorry, just running ideas to think about that could be funny to see.....
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:23 pm

Yeah that would be funny to see but it looks like you are taking your character references from sources I am not finding.

I was actually thinking about using Nodoka to help patch the discrepancy between incompetent swordsman Gomez of the TV series and Skilled Fencer Gomez of the Movies.

And Kasumi is cloudy not a sneeze. I don't really know where a couple of the characters you listed came from.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby ckosacranoid » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:59 pm

i meant to say mortisa halping kasmi...sigh...i can not type to save my life sometimes....

as for idea from tv and such....
the first was the tv show from the 60's in black and white. in the 80's there was some movies made with the same cast later and an adult puglesy and friday and then a younger set also....
then there was the movies in with raul and the dude who played doc from back to the future and mc hammer did the sound track for the secend movie.
there was also a different tv seires in the 90's on one of the networks, not sure which one it was. there was also a cartoon also made at one point. in chi-town right now that are going to doing the addams family on the stage.....

as for gomez being good or not with a sword.....made him good, he just acts the fool at times for fun and to throw poeple off, even his family....

the other weird thing i said was for amment you could make comments about the munsters being part of the faily also....weird but who knows, could be funny with a few comments about it though.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:24 pm

Morticia and Kasumi.

I haven't heard of the 80's movies you mention. Nor a 90's Addams TV series. The cartoons were mostly in the 70's-80's time frame and most of it was in the form of a Scooby Do crossover.

As for Gomez being good with a sword or not. Well Here's a link attempt That link goes to the first episode where he is shown using a sword in any capacity at all.

Edit I clicked the link at it went to Crisis in the Addams Family but it's not the episode I thought it was. This is frustrating.
Edit again: I found the episode I was looking for. And swapped the link now.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby ckosacranoid » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:20 pm

i know of the movies cause my mother has them on tape i think, i will ask her for them names of them if i can remember to this week. the tv show i remeber seeing on cable and cathcing at times in the afternoon i think...it was an hour, i think it might have been on the family network or something, not sure which one it was.
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Re: Genma Addams

Postby ckosacranoid » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:24 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi4YNjnD6Ks
its called the new addams family. here is a link i found on your tube. hope it helps a little.
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