Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

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Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:04 pm

This idea is just something that came to me and I figured "what the hell"? I've only seen the first season the TV series anime, so please forgive my ignorance, and my default intention is more to use the AMG! elements as a dues ex machina to kick off the plot. In essence, one of the girls who form Ranma's "unwanted harem" (Kodachi, Shampoo, Ukyo), somehow comes to the attention of the Goddess Helpline, who promptly materializes before her to grant her a Wish. I see three posible reasons why a Goddess (or a God; I'm pretty sure there are male kami working on Yggdrasil as well) would show up here, despite the fact that there is not one person, not even Kasumi, who really deserves a Wish. First option, there's a Glitch in the System, which resulted in the girl being assigned a Wish that they actually weren't supposed to get. Option 2, the deity in question is something of a maverick and decides that the girl in question does deserve a Wish, no matter what their higher-ups say. Finally, the deity is actually assigned to grant a Wish to somebody else, but screws up the address and gives it to this Nerimite by mistake.

Anyway, however they get it, the girl in question naturally uses her Wish to try and make Ranma fall in love with her - or, more accurately, to have other people stop interfering in their relationship, as each of the girls in question is convinced that Ranma really loves her, but is very shy and kep away from her due to the whole relationship knot. So, the result is that Ranma and the Girl are both placed under the System Force, like Keichii and Belldandy were in the earliest episodes - this means that Yggdrasil will basically manipulate reality itself to interfere with anyone's attempts to seperate them. In the earliest episodes, the two couldn't even seperate voluntarily for a while. Of course, no change has been made to the way the girl views Ranma, or Ranma views her, or how any of the other members of the knot view things - it just means that "the powers that be" will now actively interfere with any attempts to either revert to the original status quo or change the "new" status quo. Hilarity, consequently, ensues.

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Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:25 pm

Why not Peorth with the Rival Help line change some settings in their selection routine because the Goddess Help line is racking up more successful wishes granted than her department.

And what if one of the Rival Fianceés wished for "Ranma to no longer be interfered with when he is with the one he loves most". You know a Wish Back fire keeping them from interfering too.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:14 am

Like I said, I've only seen the first season of the TV series - I didn't know Peorth was with the demons, or even that they had their own Helpline, until you just told me. At the very least, I suspected that the demons had a Yggdrasil counterpart, I just didn't know if it would have a System Force style effect.

By System Force, just to be absolutely clear, I'm referring to the strange, unlikely events that kept happening whenever Keichii and Belldandy began looking like they might have been starting to seperate- when it first kicked in, they couldn't go more then a few feet from each other, and at one point when Sayoko was trying to seduce Keichii over wounded pride, it almost caused a building to fall on her car, after several attempts by her to take him somewhere romantic, only to have the road blocked off in various ways.
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Shanami » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:09 am

Peorth is a goddess. There is a separate entity called the Rival Helo Office/Line (forget which) in Asgard that is also staffed by goddesses (and theoretically gods) that competes with the Goddess Relief Office as well.

It would be a bit underhanded, but it would be a good method to mess up the wish to have Peorth sabotage something. Mara could do that too if you'd prefer a demoness for the role, but it would make much more sense for heaven to have the ability to interfere with the goddess side of things before they make it to earth.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Té Rowan » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:47 am

Are the Rival Relief Office ("We do more with less") and Demon Grief Office canon or fanon?
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Shanami » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:49 am

Pretty sure they are canon from late in the manga series, but as I've not personally read it, I can't be sure. I know that officially, Peorth is actually part of the Earth Help Center according to the translation I've seen in the anime, but I think it is translated differently in the manga to Rival Help Line. That said, I've not actually read the series, so I could be blowing smoke.

There are definitely multiple offices in heaven and there are counterpart offices in Niflheim. I'm not sure how they translate in each of the different canon universes, considering that none of them show up in the OAV series and I'm pretty sure none of them show up in Adventures of the Mini-goddesses.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Spokavriel » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:59 am

I'm pretty sure Rival help line is fan scanlation and not the true translation. But it is the Rival in wish granting among the Heavenly host. Competition to spur greater results and all.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby AdmiralTigerclaw » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:21 pm

Belldandy is from the 'Goddess Help Line', Peorth from the 'Earth Assistance Center'.

Anywho, just throwing in a messed up wish on one of the would be fiance' isn't enough.

Throw in Peorth to sweeten the deal. And find a way to get Lind (Ever Stoic Lind) mixed up in the problem. (As a victim no less.)

Perhaps a plot bunny here...

Peorth appears amongst them , not from some silly goof up of heaven. (Heaven doesn't GOOF "THAT" bad...)

Her message is simple: "We've been watching this problem for some time, and quite frankly we're sick and tired of watching you girls fight over some martial artist. So we managed to go through your files and it turns out there's JUST ENOUGH good will between the three (or four) of you to grant you a wish."

Throw an argument between the ladies and let them argue and finally they settle on a wish roughly worded as: "We wish for Ranma to be betrothed to woman most worthy of his abilities."

BOOM! Wish granted.

Unfortunately, their error in wording is to narrow the field of 'women' down to themselves, that means ANY woman... and who's the most kickass valkyrie worthy of Ranma's fighting Talent?

Yeah, I'm transparent that way. Lind.

She comes along maybe the next day to deal with some problem or another, and finds she can't leave, and before long, everything goes to hel-er... heaven in a handbasket. Lind is most stoicly displeased with Peorth's wreckless handling of the wish, but it's final, and now she's stuck hanging around a 'kid' (from her viewpoint.) A tough kid, but to her, a kid.

Let the system force hilarity, scary valkyrie antics, and overall comical goodness ensue.

Akane of course, still manages to beat the crap out of ranma at every turn. ("That young lady somehow manages to slip past the system force's control..."
"Yeah, even heaven knows better when Akane's angry.")


That plot fills in the gaps in my head that would need adressing. It's not a perfect storm of random circumstances (no sudden random 'oops' events here), it's in character for Peorth to do something like that without thinking it all the way through, it grays the line of buracracy without crossing it (You have amongst the X of you, enough good will for one wish as a group), it's in character for the girls to come up with that solution, and it fits with the System's tendancy to take wishes a bit too literally.


Of course, this would require the OP to go catch up on Lind as a character. She's [Frown]SERIOUS BUSINESS [/Frown] most of the time, with just a touch of a soft side that pops up here and there.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Shanami » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:52 pm

Aha, got my translations mixed up. Thanks for setting me straight on that.

As a side note, Lind seems likely to just completely destroy Nerima after a short period of time.

While I think the situation you presented with Lind getting involved would be hilarious in and of itself, the use of AMG was stated to be just as a plot method to force Ranma to be stuck to one of the fiancees even if he really doesn't want to.

Personally, I think both directions would be good (though I think either Urd or Mara would be waaay funnier than Peorth or Lind, and Urd would probably be inclined to find a wish to insert herself into the biggest romantic knot she's ever seen.). Of the fiancees, while I think she is least deserving of a wish, Kodachi being stuck near Ranma at all times would probably have the biggest gag factor. I mean, Kodachi would leash to the pigtailed harridan as well. Hehe, poor Ranma, Kodachi is so deliciously unhinged.

At any rate, I'd probably read it, no matter which way you go with it. I happen to rather like R/A!MG crosses if you focus on that, and I really love humor fics.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Spokavriel » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:05 pm

I wonder if there's a way to mess up a wish enough to get Mara engaged to Ranma and stuck with him through the system force. You know just for the perverse angle of a heavenly wish directing and limiting the actions of a daemoness
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Shanami » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:30 pm

Spokavriel wrote: I wonder if there's a way to mess up a wish enough to get Mara engaged to Ranma and stuck with him through the system force. You know just for the perverse angle of a heavenly wish directing and limiting the actions of a daemoness


That's rather brilliant in its own way. Mara would probably cripple the entire fiancee crew within a week though, so it could get ugly really quickly. Unless she was constrained in some way, but she'd probably still completely ruin everyone's life.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby AdmiralTigerclaw » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Mara underwent catastrophic villain decay after her initial appearance though.

She's probably waste time ranting about how powerful she is, and 1: Get Paralyzed by Kodachi's poison roses, 2: get pummeled by Shampoo, 3: get flapjack-flipped off Ukyo's Zanba Spatula... and that's BEFORE they figure out Mara's weaknesses. (Lucky objects, rock & roll.)

Anyway, as for trying to use AMG as a plot device. I'd say if you're going to pull from the story, give it more respect than that.

I'd pick the Lind plot, it flows so well without being contrived.
I disagree she'd trash the place within' a week (she's too disciplined), though if you ABSOLUTELY have to go that way, the hilarity that drives her to losing her composure. I mean, how often does one get a chance to 'BREAK' a Stoic? It's like those fics where people end up breaking Sailor Pluto's composure.

A few other things I'd add to improve the flavor of the mix is an attempt by the girls to keep it under wraps. So Ranma doesn't KNOW Lind got tied to him by Heaven, only that she seems to be around A LOT. And the entire building of the plot would be based around trying to figure out how to undo the wish.


Possible side-effects of the wish is that the system force works overtime to keep Ranma male. Kind of like the reverse of how his curse always seems to end up with him popping into female form because of some random splash. With the way Ranma's grown a habbit of taking advantage of his female form, that too can have hilarious effects by blowing his cover.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby Shanami » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:16 pm

AdmiralTigerclaw wrote:Mara underwent catastrophic villain decay after her initial appearance though.

I'd pick the Lind plot, it flows so well without being contrived.
I disagree she'd trash the place within' a week (she's too disciplined), though if you ABSOLUTELY have to go that way, the hilarity that drives her to losing her composure. I mean, how often does one get a chance to 'BREAK' a Stoic? It's like those fics where people end up breaking Sailor Pluto's composure.


Yeah, Mara lost way too much steam, but in those cases, she is going up against Goddesses. I mean, if she was going to try to destroy Nabiki, I think she'd go about it in a very straight forward manner.

You'll notice that almost every fic where Sailor Pluto loses her composure involves Ranma some way or the other. I particularly like when she winds up engaged to him and tries everything in heaven and hell to get rid of him. Or the always amusing Pluto drives herself insane trying to kill Ranma fic.

Wow, majorly off topic for the original story idea, ehh?

The system force probably would try to keep Ranma from switching genders from his partner's preferred gender. This could be very amusing in either direction. Let's say that Akane is a closet lesbian (not that unlikely), Ranma would get splashed even more than he already does. Kodachi wants Ranma-sama, Kodachi gets Ranma-sama. For some inexplicable reason Ukyo is bi, well, bad things could happen to Ranma constantly depending on her mood. Oo, the possibilities. I do like the idea of Ranma pulling off the ice cream scam and turning male in the middle of it. That'd be pretty much hilarious.
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Re: Ranma/AMG!: Unwanted Harem Girl gets the System Force

Postby AdmiralTigerclaw » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:07 pm

Since you didn't catch up with season two or the special, you probably don't know how easily Keiichi drops Mara now.

Litterally, while Hild is playing mind games with Lind over Belldandy, she comes out to show her hostages... and instead, finds that Skuld and Keiichi have imobilized Mara and have her hog tied.

Anyway, as for Pluto, actually, no, I don't notice.

I come from a time when 'A Sailor Moon Romance' was still fully active. One of my favorite fics there was the Adventures of Psycho Setsuna... Poorly written as it was. And of course, other faves like 'Curse of the Fanboys' (Knew the man that was Havoc for a time before he vanished from there.)

Making 'Puu' snap is just a matter of knowing where to poke.

Anyway... Getting back on topic. (Though I'm not one to care about 'off topic', the 'topic' is wherever the conversation drifts.)

More accurately, getting back to the point:

The system force would certainly do some wonky things. It would be interesting to explore perhaps some, side effects of the system force.

Like for instance, if the SF makes it rain like it did on Keiichi and Beldandy the first time around, the forcast office might notice something's weird about the weather patterns. Subtle things like that. Now, mind I'm going to take this to the ultra extreme to point out...
Assume for some reason the system force makes it rain CONSTANTLY in an area... They could do more than just be noticed, it could cause peterbations in the global environment and temperature norms, along side the impact of flooding and the problems inherent with prolonged rainfall.

Imagine what kind of effect a previously unnoticed 'Butterfly Glitch' could have if the system force went into overdrive trying to keep Ranma and X under control...
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