The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby nodregah » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:16 am

The only question I have so far beyond skill level is strength. How strong are the MK characters compared to the NWC. Remember, during Saffron some one commented that three ton boulders were normally thrown around by the NWC. (something close to that. its been awhile since I read the Manga.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:58 am

As far as I know, strength in the MKverse varies from individual to individual. Some are merely "highly trained human fighter" level, though they have "special techniques" that bolster their effectiveness (Johnny Cage's Shadow Kick, for example). Others are various levels of superhuman; Cyrax, as a cyborg, is several times stronger than a human, while a Shadokhan like Goro is stronger still.

I see, so that's what you're planning. Honestly, I have no advice I can think of to give you. Shang Tsung is like Happosai with his crippling weaknesses excised, a threat that Ranma almost certainly couldn't hope to get more than a draw against on his own. In his way, he's more dangerous than Shao Khan - he may have less raw power, but he has much greater skill. About his only mental weakness is his ego.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:06 am

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:I see, so that's what you're planning. Honestly, I have no advice I can think of to give you. Shang Tsung is like Happosai with his crippling weaknesses excised, a threat that Ranma almost certainly couldn't hope to get more than a draw against on his own. In his way, he's more dangerous than Shao Khan - he may have less raw power, but he has much greater skill. About his only mental weakness is his ego.


Too true. Aside from that, any thoughts on the rest of the line up if you don't mind me asking? Does anything need to be switched or removed?
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:04 am

Like I said, I don't really know enough about Mortal Kombat's various characters to supply anything that could be too helpful. Nothing really looks like a mismatch, though I will point out that teamwork is very much not a strongpoint for the Ranma 1/2 crew; Ranma and Akane are particularly bad, and have actually put each other in danger once or twice in the series because they fought about fighting their opponent to bicker with each other, but Ranma and his rivals or Ukyo, Shampoo and Akane can all get distracted when fighting with each other. Ryoga is the quickest of all Ranma's rivals to concentrate on the bigger problem, and Ranma can actually work very well with either Ukyo or Shampoo (they just don't get involved very often).
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:26 am

Well, very true about that. My reasoning for that Ranma-Akane team up fight going up against Ermac is because of that one time attack in the Anime (forgot the name of it though). Thought it would suit the fight especially as to how it can end with them winning.

Do you know the name of the attack by any chance? I can't remember it.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:44 am

Oh, they CAN work together, it's just that Ranma and Akane as a team is more likely to break down into foolish quarrels than Ranma and Ryoga or Ranma and Shampoo. But, from what I know, teamwork generally isn't a strong part for Shao Khan's goons either. If you're referring to the Dojo Destroyer episode...? Then the attack was the Dual Jet-Stream Raging Waters attack.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:11 am

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:Oh, they CAN work together, it's just that Ranma and Akane as a team is more likely to break down into foolish quarrels than Ranma and Ryoga or Ranma and Shampoo. But, from what I know, teamwork generally isn't a strong part for Shao Khan's goons either. If you're referring to the Dojo Destroyer episode...? Then the attack was the Dual Jet-Stream Raging Waters attack.


Yes, that's the attack I couldn't remember. Thank you, my friend. That's the attack they use against Ermac and you are right that Ranma and Akane would break down into foolish quarrels but then again, the warriors in the Outworld aren't known for their teamwork like you said.

And another question if you don't mind me asking, since Chameleon can copy attacks; how should Ryoga and Mousse beat him? Should it be the same way that it was done in the Copycat Ken episode?
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:31 am

I would say the better option would be for them to coordinate a two-pronged tag-team assault on him. Keep attacking him from different angles with different moves and at an unpredictable pace so he has no idea who to copy or who to defend against at any given moment. Not sure what would inspire them to think of such a move, though you could probably explain it as them quizzing Ranma on how he beat Copycat Ken (given they wanted to settle the score with him as well before Ranma beat them to it) and figuring out that if they're two to one, they may as well work that to their advantage, seeing as how they have teamed up and gotten on quite efficiently as a fighting duo at least once before.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:52 am

That works. Thank you. :)

Anything else would you suggest for any of the fights (if you don't mind me asking)?
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby Battlekrome » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:47 am

Depending on which source for fighters
(ie which game / movie whatever)

movie level makes much more sense for NWC vs

otherwise only one able to compete would be Ranma , Ryoga and Konatsu

remember the Tournament is one of the Greatest warriors and such of their generation

Ranma qualifies for this... Ryoga maybe

but Akane and the rest... not by a long shot... (granted the tag along with Ranma to the tournament seems... forcing it)

one of the catches is Lethal vs Comedy

sure akane can break bricks and probably throw small cars but when it comes down to it... glass cannon

Overall... idea's been toyed with before...

One complaint for initial idea Too many characters... how much mortal kombat do you need to know?
(movie? mk I? II? iii? etc?)
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:26 pm

Well, the additional MK characters are there to escalate the threat and they're part of Shao Khan's plan. These guys aren't after fiancees, they really want all of their heads decapitated. I mean, plenty of the characters in the Ranma 1/2 universe want to kill him but you might disagree with me on this but with Ryoga, they're pretty vague like he'd hesistate, but the MK characters, when they want to kill someone, they will do it. They will stick what they want to do, no hesistation.

And no offense but the movies aren't the best reference material. I mean, yeah, the first movie put an effort into and it can be a guilty pleasure depending if it's your cup of tea but the second movie? That was just awful, nothing made sense, the characters are there for no reason, there's more jumping than fighting and the acting is all around bad.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby WG_Writer » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 pm

"smacks his own face"
Read most of what has been written but it needs to be said again

MK is inconsistant on its own, or least we bring up matchups such as Johnny Cage vs Raiden? right... a movie star that Akane could probably kick out in a single shot and the god of lightning?

As much as it pains me to say it and I know I will get flack, grab ideas from the movies. But do NOT follow their scripts. Although the idea of Ranma stealing Sub-Zero's ice power's (i.e. copying them some how) and starting a rivalery amuses me.

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Over all I doubt most of the Ranma cast would last long, MK is always to the death in the matches (suposedly) things would break down fast that way.

If you have to write it I would say go an Akane got kidnapped and was used as bait for Ranma, perhaps Ryoga stumbles along and gets allowed in based on his apparent (but not real) hate.

regardless its Dark fic material

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However there was a pure Ranma 1/2 fighting game done in Japan, so it could be unique to do a non-cross battle royal
Storm trooper effect works against good guys as well.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:00 am

There were two Ranma fighting games, and a Ranma RPG, all on the SNES. I know a site that's got ROMs of them for free download. I know one of them basically had the plotline of the Principal approaching various fighters and manipulating them into facing each other for various reasons (Ranma to get exemption from tests, for example). I think there was also a Sega CD Ranma fighting game.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby three headed dog » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:04 am

There were two Ranma fighting games, and a Ranma RPG, all on the SNES.


I know of 14 official Ranma games (it is possible that there are some I do not know about), that is not counting the fan made games or the games that are basically cameos. The Sega CD (actually Mega CD) was not a fighting game it was a digital comic.

The pure fighting games were:
Ranma ½: Battle Renaissance - Playstation - Similar to Tekken
Ranma ½: Bakuretsu Rantōhen - SNES
Ranma ½: Chōnai Gekitōhen - SNES
Ranma ½: Chougi Rambuhen - SNES

The rest were RPG's, digital comics, puzzles, side scrolling fighter games (not versus) and one text based game (various systems PC-98, PC Engine, Gameboy, SNES, Megadrive Cd- US called Sega cd and cameo as a playable character in a Nintendo DS baseball game).

No idea as to how the fights go since I haven't played a mortal kombat game in a long while but if the Ranma cast, manga versions, decide to get lethal than they probably stand a good chance. Game version would depend on the game but I don't really remember any really great moves from the games.
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Re: The Untitled Ranma 1/2/Mortal Kombat Crossover

Postby MovieBrat » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:47 pm

WarGiver wrote:As much as it pains me to say it and I know I will get flack, grab ideas from the movies. But do NOT follow their scripts. Although the idea of Ranma stealing Sub-Zero's ice power's (i.e. copying them some how) and starting a rivalery amuses me.

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Over all I doubt most of the Ranma cast would last long, MK is always to the death in the matches (suposedly) things would break down fast that way.

If you have to write it I would say go an Akane got kidnapped and was used as bait for Ranma, perhaps Ryoga stumbles along and gets allowed in based on his apparent (but not real) hate.

regardless its Dark fic material


I wouldn't follow their scripts but despite the fact that I find the first film a bit of a guilty pleasure and the sceond film sucked, I wouldn't want to grab ideas from the movies. Though admittingly, the whole tournament concept is what gave me the idea especially as to how they travel there, by boat.
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