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Postby Hazard » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:45 am

As far as the Tower is concerned how many Warders you have is your problem, the only thing that matters is if they are volunteers or not. Because of this, the Red Ajah has the internal policy of taking no Warders.
Hmm, not quite accurate, what I mean is that the Reds have taking the No Warder Policy because, frankly, most of them would be considered man-hating dykes in these days. Also most be taken in mind the Red Ajahs task: To hunt Channeling men down and bring them to Tar Valon to be Severed. The policy was most likely started either during the Breaking or the Trolloc Wars.
Keep in mind as well that the Red Ajah is suspected of overstepping their authority, Severing male Channelers on the spot and then leaving them to die, though there is no evidence in the books, it's alluded to.
Also note that the Ajahs are strictly speaking not the way the Second Era Aes Sedai operated, they were either alone or operated in a temporary team. Any kind of team was called a 'ajah' in the oldest tongue still known to the world.
Modern day Ajahs are the result of the Tower deviding itself across its differing ideals.
There are many rivalries between the Ajahs, the best-known one is between the Red and the Blue Ajahs.
Ranma will most likely be torn between the Red Ajah and the Green Ajah, but if they can spark his interest, any but the White Ajah can snap him up.
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Postby Mitchell » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:08 pm

I Thought the White Ajar was the one based on Logic?
You are correct about the fact that the Ajar were not always the permanet bodies they are today. I think they formed in the Trolloc Wars. In the Age of Legends an Ajar was not so much any team, but a bit of a political party, or more accuratly all the members of an ajar were working towards a goal.
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Postby Sailor Sedai (Ellf) » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:56 pm

Actually, Ranma is least likely to be Brown Ajah because of his disdain for schooling. White Ajah is an Ajah that very well suits her because of her acts, though they defy logic, she can use logic pretty well.
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Postby EdenB » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:57 pm

I chose no. To me, most likely because i've never read wheel of time or even heard of it, outside of crossovers, it seems fairly complicated. It also sounds like Ranma gets superpowered and it's fairly strange that he accepts his curse (at least without a long time to do so).
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Postby Sailor Sedai (Ellf) » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:00 pm

Well, Tower training takes a while, ten to thirty years to be precise. Aes Sedai themselves live to be about 100 to 500 years old, their lives extended by the One Power.
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Postby Mitchell » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:15 pm

The only problem I have with this is that Ranma will have to take the three oaths. Remember that taking Oaths using the oathstick imprints them and that Ranma could not disobey.
Also the Oathstick drasticlly shortens a Users life. A Channeler who does not take the oaths can live to be about 400 years plus, I thik there was one of the women in Ebar Dar who was like 600 years old.
An Aes Sedai who takes the oaths can live to be about 300 years old, about 400 at the absoloute maximum.
And while Ranma can use logic I dont think that he thinks that lgic is an absolute. The White Ajar does.
I agree that Ranma probably would not go for the Brown Ajar.
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Postby Sailor Sedai (Ellf) » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:18 pm

Either way, you just proved my point for Eden. Ranma has plenty of time in the Tower to get used to her female form.
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Postby Atlan » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:43 am

I chose no. To me, most likely because i've never read wheel of time or even heard of it, outside of crossovers, it seems fairly complicated. It also sounds like Ranma gets superpowered and it's fairly strange that he accepts his curse (at least without a long time to do so).

I disagree. It sounds like the majority takes place in the Randverse, or around channerlers in the Ranma universe, so Ranma's channeling dosent over power hem. Heck, it sounds like it'll swing the other way- Ranma too weak. All that chi damage, taking him so early in the Ranma universe, he'll be a pretty sad Martial artist.
The Ajah's:
Red: Man haters, no warders.
White: Focoused on logic, cold and impersonal
Yellow: Healers
Brown: Scholars, book worms
Green: Warriors, multiple warders.
Blue: I cant remember.
Ranma would be most likley to be in the Green, I think.
The red ajah would be unable to see past his male form, and might even try to kill him, believing him to chanel the male half as well.
The White is too logical for him, he prefers honour over technicalites.
The Brown would be too abstract for him.
Yellow is a posibility, he does try to make sure others dont get hurt, so healing is something he might go for.
But the green have multiple warders, and are the most combat focoused of the lot.
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Postby Mitchell » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:08 am

Here is a definition of the other two ajars.
Blue: Edit: They play 'The Great Game' with nations. They ar the political manipulaters.
Grey: Peace makers. They go and try and to make sure that there are no wars or to make people sign agreements.
And I agree with Atlan it looks like this would make Ranma a fairly week compared to others.
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Postby Atlan » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:53 am

The grey, I always forget them. Then again, they are pretty boring.
Hey Questara, I like the way you want to avoid havign teh Uber Ranma, but dont go over board. Ranma has training that no one in Randverse does, so give him an advantage or two.
Like in the first book, when morgaine (spelt wrong, I know) couldnt channel while on a horse. Ranma has awesome ballence, so mabey he could channel under extreme conditions.
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Postby Hazard » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:44 am

The Brown Ajah can snap Ranma up if there is a Martial Arts section in the White Tower Library, but only then.
Also, the Yellow Ajah is supposedly very arrogant. Kodachi could learn a few lessons there.
The reason I say the White Ajah won't get Ranma is simple, to intellectual and philosophical, Ranma is not prone to being that thoughtfull, unless it's about winnning a fight.
I can't see Ranma as a Blue either, he isn't a manipulator. Should Nabiki meet up white a Blue Sedai (yes, I know that terminology is wrong) she would first have her head spun around 'til she learns the tricks herself, then most likely theach the Blues
The Oathrod the Aes Sedai use to enforce the three Rules, don't ask me what they exactly are, halves the life-expectancy of the subject. A very powerfull Channeler could live for nearly 700 years, assuming there aren't any accidents, due to the fact that Channelers are, on average, slowly weakening west of the Aiel Waste, no Aes Sedai outside of a legendary Green has grown older than 3 centuries old for atleast a 1000 years, pretty much since the end of the One Hundred Year War.
The Rod also has the side effect of making an Aes Sedai look 'ageless', time seems to pass them pay, their skin does not age or wrinkle. They do age, but you wouldn't notice it in their face. Hair turns white and there is no evidence of the body not slowly growing old, skin remains flawless.
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Postby Scratx-chan » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:06 am

There are a few issues here... quite a few, actually.
First of all, every male channeler goes crazy within a few years of starting to touch the Tainted Saidin. Furthermore, after they go insane, they start rotting. You're not going to find anyone above 30 who channels Saidin alive.
Plus, Taint isn't passed down genetically, so it doesn't explain Kodachi. (plus, the Kunos would've died out long ago, I'd bet...)
Musk and Amazons... exchanging channelers? Doesn't seem to make much sense to me, given the above... again, men go crazy pretty quickly and then die out.
Another thing, if Saidin is tainted, where is the hole to the DO's prison located in Ranma's world? It can't be tainted if the DO is fully sealed there (IMO).
Red Ajah... gawd... no way. Ranma in the red? My mind boggles. :roll:
Experimental Portal Stones... the Portal Stones predate the Age of Legends, so it doesn't have to be 'Experimental' at all. They could just go to a random Portal Stone and travel elsewhere using it. During the AoL, usage of Portal Stones was known, albeit limited to only the strong.
Weaves that allow self-transformation are a no-no, unless you change the very nature of the One Power. You can't weave on yourself, for one. Can't Heal yourself. I don't see how that is possible. And it gets worse about "locking" the curse. There's no reason why they would know how to do it, and even less reason to make it channeler only (ever heard of Tying weaves?). I'm fairly certain it's actually mentioned in a resource book (not the RPG) that AoL AS couldn't change living beings after they were born... and the AS that would be training Ranma are a pathetic shadow of them.
Time Travel with Portal Stones is possible, but I'd say it's mostly accidental, and probably only forward in time. (though it's plausible to have it go back...)
The Oath Rod also at least halves life-spans (I suspect it's at least shaving to around 30% or less, but that might not be right... AoL life-spans were exceedingly long in and of themselves).
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Postby TainShari » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:13 am

The Three Oaths are to never speak a lie, never make a weapon for a man to kill another with, to never use the One Power as a weapon, except
against Shadowspawn, to save her own life, or her Warder's, or the life of another sister.
The Agelessness isn't mere youthfulness. A person looking at an 'ageless' Aes Sedai is unable to put _any_ age at all to them.
Also Blues aren't just manipulators, they're also excellent administrators. Some of the best Amyrlins Seats have come from the Blue Ajah(with Reds being the worst). Blues strive for causes and justice.
White focuses not just on logic but also on philosophy and truth.
And a Channeler w/o the Oath has an average lifespan of about 1000 years. (Lanfear is 600 years old before her being sealed, and in the Age of Legends is considered to be middle aged)
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Postby Pale Wolf » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:19 am

Another thing, if Saidin is tainted, where is the hole to the DO's prison located in Ranma's world? It can't be tainted if the DO is fully sealed there (IMO).

The impression I got was that it wasn't tainted. The 'craziness' was based on remnants of the taint's effects - ie twisted brain chemistry and the like.
Red Ajah... gawd... no way. Ranma in the red? My mind boggles.

Isn't that the whole point? Take a totally left-field position, and then make it reasonable that Ranma ended up there? To the point that no other way seems to fit? That's the essence of good fanfic, to me.
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Postby Questara » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:25 am

Scratx-chan wrote:There are a few issues here... quite a few, actually.
First of all, every male channeler goes crazy within a few years of starting to touch the Tainted Saidin. Furthermore, after they go insane, they start rotting. You're not going to find anyone above 30 who channels Saidin alive.

Well, my plan for it was to have the taint not exist during the Nerima Time period, so its only the pre-existing effects.
Plus, Taint isn't passed down genetically, so it doesn't explain Kodachi. (plus, the Kunos would've died out long ago, I'd bet...)

Actually, as far as I know, the effects on the children of tainted channellers isn't known due to the deaths of the male channellers, so as far as I can see, that leaves it open to the authors interpretation.
Musk and Amazons... exchanging channelers? Doesn't seem to make much sense to me, given the above... again, men go crazy pretty quickly and then die out.
Another thing, if Saidin is tainted, where is the hole to the DO's prison located in Ranma's world? It can't be tainted if the DO is fully sealed there (IMO).

No Taint in ranma's time, just the after effects of the taint.
Red Ajah... gawd... no way. Ranma in the red? My mind boggles. :roll:

I have to agree that the red does seem a poor idea in retrospect.
Weaves that allow self-transformation are a no-no, unless you change the very nature of the One Power. You can't weave on yourself, for one. Can't Heal yourself. I don't see how that is possible. And it gets worse about "locking" the curse. There's no reason why they would know how to do it, and even less reason to make it channeler only (ever heard of Tying weaves?). I'm fairly certain it's actually mentioned in a resource book (not the RPG) that AoL AS couldn't change living beings after they were born... and the AS that would be training Ranma are a pathetic shadow of them.

I'd forgotten about the no self-transformation rule, I guess I can go with a weave to change liquids temputure then.
Time Travel with Portal Stones is possible, but I'd say it's mostly accidental, and probably only forward in time. (though it's plausible to have it go back...)

The idea of the (experimental) portal stone, was to go back in time multiple ages, and then, using specially designed Ter'angrel, to return. This was why it was an experimental one.
The Oath Rod also at least halves life-spans (I suspect it's at least shaving to around 30% or less, but that might not be right... AoL life-spans were exceedingly long in and of themselves).

Considering this story is only going to take place over the period of maybe 20 years or so at most, I am not sure how this is really relavent.
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Also, to answer some of the comments above regarding Ranma's Gender Change and the use of Saidar, since Jordan does not have any gender changering channellers, that leaves it up to the individual fanfic author's intrepretation how they want it to work, in my opinion.
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