Ranma - Save the Queen

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Ranma - Save the Queen

Postby Atlan » Tue May 29, 2007 4:44 am

Ranma. A red head, feircely proud, values honor more than anything, and an unbeatable fighter. Doesnt that sound like someone from a certain ps1 game....?

The idea: In the fight with Herb on the mountain top, the force of Ranma and Herb's chi atacks, as well as destroying the mountain, rip a hole in reality, and Ranma gets thrown through. He finds him self in an evil forest, where the plants atack him, and monsters roam.

Sounding familiar yet?

He finds a little girl, being chased by knights intent on killing her. Ranma takes care of them, and looks after the girl. He takes her from the forrest, still fending off atacks from the knights, until he ends up wiping out a small army of them. In the fight Ranma looses her (as the curse is still locked) eye.

Suddenly, an airship lands, filled with women knights and a fairly ugly woman in charge. The little girl runs towards her, calling her 'Mommy'. The ugly woman calls the girl 'Garnet'.

That's right- a Final Fantasy 9 crossover!

It turns out that the captian of the Knights of Pluto decided to take controll of the knigdom, killing the king, and sending his forces out to kill the princess. The female knights managed to get queen Bhanhe aboard the Red Rose, and keep her safe. The only members of the knights of Pluto who didnt try to kill the royal family were a fairly incompetent captian called 'Stiener', and his 12 subordinates. They were left out of the orders, and so whille not guilty of treason, arn't believed to be totally innocent.

Because of how well Ranma defended the princess, the Queen promotes her to be the General of her knights. Ranma keeps Stiener and his 12 men alive, but refuses to let the Knights of Pluto grow beyond that size, as he dosent trust Stiener- his competency or his loyalty. The queen gives Ranma a more appropriate name- Beatrix.

After a coupple of years, Ranma gets Dr Tot to un-lock the curse. By now, Ranma is totaly loyal to the queen and the princess, and stays on as their guard, never leting them know about the fact that 'she' can turn into a boy.
But as Ranma is, at heart, a guy, he sometimes leaves the castle for hours or days, and takes up the persona of a mercenary. Because of how long he spent locked in girl form, his boy form now has red hair. He even gets a reputation as a deadly fighter, one who will take any job if it's challenging enough. The call him 'The Flaming Amarant'.

This would (eventually) lead into the main story of FF9. Beatrix mentioning that she once killed a hundered knights would be a reference to when she first came to that world. She'd leave Zidane and co alive each time she faced them because they were fun to fight.

After that fight in disk 2, the one against the dogs, she would become he, and become one of the people sent to track down Garnet because is would be the fastest way to find her, and keep her safe.

This would totally change the Beatrix/Stiener relationship. Stiener would come off a lot like Kuno, in terms of just not getting that 'Beatrix' is a guy.
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Postby lcpoketoon » Tue May 29, 2007 4:59 am

I like this idea but instead of makeing Stiener like Kuno, you could just have it Ranma never notices that he intrested in his girl form like that. Ranma could think of him as a friend an loyal if a little goofy ally.
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Postby Dumbledork » Tue May 29, 2007 7:40 am

I love the idea. There's a real lack of Ranma/FF crossovers and I only know of one Ranma/FF9 crossover.
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Postby Atlan » Tue May 29, 2007 7:48 am

tead of makeing Stiener like Kuno, you could just have it Ranma never notices that he intrested in his girl form like that.


Hey, thats a good idea. Instead of it being Ranma/kuno, it would be more Akane/Ryoga. Nice.

Ranma could think of him as a friend an loyal if a little goofy ally.


A large part of the Stiener/Beatrix relationship, in the begining, was about how little she respected him. And I cant see Ranma having much respect for a man who cant mantain his own armour, and who is too incompetent to even get picked to join in a coup.

and I only know of one Ranma/FF9 crossover.


There's another? Where!?!
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Postby Spokavriel » Tue May 29, 2007 9:17 am

Ranma wouldn't respect Stiner at first. But that's no reason to follow the Kuno pattern. Ranma had no respect for the heir to martial arts tea ceramony and still tolerated him and even helped him out. Just take some time feeling out how the characters should relate and don't worry about cannon Ranma equivilants so much.

I'm not so sure about the Red hair on Male Ranma. I mean I could see him using a dye to make it so that it's less noticable if there were a warm water accident but having it change to be the perminant both form color because of having been in the curse too long just doesn't feel right to me.
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Postby WG_Writer » Tue May 29, 2007 9:32 am

It could work, but I recommend making the red hair a disguise in the curse unlocking, and ensuring that the queen is aware of the curse, and suspects a secret identity but fully trusting (in so far as she is in the game).
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Postby lwf58 » Tue May 29, 2007 9:36 am

There are several "why's" in this. Why should Ranma lose an eye? What purpose does it serve in the story? Why should Ranma's hair change color? Just because the character he's replacing in the game has red hair? Why should Ranma keep his curse secret from the queen, if he's taken an oath of loyalty to her?

Those are weaknesses in the plot, because there is no reason for them. What you are proposing is a mixup between a crossover and a fusion.

If it's a crossover, then don't try to make Ranma exactly the same as the characters from the game whose roles he's taking. Ranma's name isn't "Beatrix", it's Ranma. There isn't any reason for him not to use it. There's no reason why he'd need to have red hair. Just give him another nickname when he's a mercenary. There's no reason why he should keep his curse secret from the person he's pledged service to, and every reason why he shouldn't. There's no reason (at least in your description) why Ranma should suffer the loss of an eye. It just sounds like you're bending his character to make it match one from the game.

If it's a fusion, then there shouldn't be any Nerima. All of the characters from Ranma 1/2 should replace appropriate characters from the game.
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Postby Metroidvania » Tue May 29, 2007 3:35 pm

Another why of sorts...

what happens to Amarant/Ranma's personality? The loner aspect could be if Ranma's male and female sides have some different developing personalities...or perhaps Ranma not being used to being male, and not knowing how to react, I suppose...

And how are you going to account for the skin difference?

amarant is _really_ pale, if I recall correctly...either that, or blue.

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There's another? Where!?!


Something to do with Ranma teleporting over....with the mushrooms, I think...either way, he comes across Beatrix, and the two start a relationship of sorts years later...I don't think it was anywhere near finished..but I'll go look for it, I believe it's on FF.
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Postby Atlan » Tue May 29, 2007 4:48 pm

I'm not so sure about the Red hair on Male Ranma. I mean I could see him using a dye to make it so that it's less noticeable if there were a warm water accident but having it change to be the permanent both form color because of having been in the curse too long just doesn't feel right to me.


Yeah, good point.

There are several "why's" in this. Why should Ranma lose an eye? What purpose does it serve in the story?


Because it would show the queen that s/he is more than just a fighter looking for a challenge, that s/he would risk death (or even die) for another. After all, what use is a General/bodyguard who might say "oh, that looks like I might die- I think it's time for a holiday".

no reason why he should keep his curse secret from the person he's pledged service to, and every reason why he shouldn't."


That is actually VERY important. The general idea is that in the aftermath of the coup, Alexandra goes from being a patriarchy to a matriarchy almost over night. The people of the city (and especially the royal family) loose any respect for males in positions of power.

Still, he probably would tell someone in the royal family... probably Garnet, as she would like him/her more than anyone.

what happens to Amarant/Ranma's personality? The loner aspect could be if Ranma's male and female sides have some different developing personalities...or perhaps Ranma not being used to being male, and not knowing how to react, I suppose...


Ranma-Ammerants personality would be a part of the person that Ranma is when not around Garnet, and part a ruse to fool Zidane and co. After all, he couldn't train a Princess in martial arts, but he could lurk around, and do just enough to keep her safe, while she gets stronger and more experienced.
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Postby Musouka » Tue May 29, 2007 7:09 pm

The reason Ranma's name is changed to Beatrix:

After swearing fealty to the queen:
Queen: Beatrix your duties are to watch over Garnet and train her bodyguards.
Ranma: Your majesty, my name is Ranma.
Queen: Yes, yes, Beatrix. You will also be responsible for castle security.
Ranma: It's Ran-
Queen: There will be a gathering of leaders next week. Please see to it that arrangements are made Beatrix.
Ranma: It's -
Queen: Now Garnet you will listen to Beatrix. She will be your bodyguard from now on.
Ranma: ...

As for the mercenary...does he really need to travel with the group to protect Garnet? He could always follow them around and stay hidden, right?
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Postby Tovath » Tue May 29, 2007 7:12 pm

lwf58 wrote:There are several "why's" in this. Why should Ranma lose an eye? What purpose does it serve in the story?


Come on Ranma defeats 100 knights and doesn't get hurt, that's a bit unbelievable.
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Postby lwf58 » Tue May 29, 2007 7:33 pm

Tovath wrote:Come on Ranma defeats 100 knights and doesn't get hurt, that's a bit unbelievable.


Not at all. I can think of one canon solution to it that would only take a short time.

Ranma insults their honor and gets them to chase him. Leads them in a big spiral. Launches a Hiryuu Shoten Ha. With one hundred angry knights to fuel it, resulting hurricane is of epic proportions. Said knights, not being Nerima-class martial artists, get their unfortunate bones broken; in some cases, probably their unfortunate necks and skulls.

End of fight. No harm to Ranma in the slightest, unless he stubbed a toe on a rock at some point.
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Postby Spokavriel » Tue May 29, 2007 7:36 pm

Tovath wrote:Come on Ranma defeats 100 knights and doesn't get hurt, that's a bit unbelievable.

You could have a slash across the eye without it becomming lost or even really injured. The ball is deeper than the lid cheek and brow afterall.
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Postby Krogoth » Tue May 29, 2007 10:11 pm

Actually I'm not sure Ranma would be willing to use a Hiryu Shoten Ha in that kind of situation. Keep in mind that in the little bit we were given, he gets separated from the girl he's trying to protect and doesn't know where she is. If he lets one of those loose, he has no way of knowing she wouldn't get swept up in it because he doesn't know where she's at. That would force him to take them out with more controlled methods.
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Postby Darkforce222 » Tue May 29, 2007 10:57 pm

Is is so unbeleiveable that an enemy could get a lucky shot in?

Ranma can pretty much run circles around anything in heavy armor without really trying, but if there's a hundred foes he's going to get tagged at least once, most likely while momentarily distracted.

EDIT: It would really make more sense for Ranma to lose an eye in the actual retaking of the kingdom, as I doubt they'd send a hundred knights after one little girl.
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