Ranma/Harry Potter crossover: Veela 1/2

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Postby Nadrek » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:10 am

Others have already pointed out the most relevant issues, but I'll rehash a little and cover a couple new ones.

You want Fleur/Ranma? Great! Genma sold Ranma to the Delacours for two baguettes and a croissant while on his training trip.

You do need to account for the cold war.

More importantly, you need to account for the sociopolitical framework of entirely different nation-states. In Potter, the British are rendered impotent by JKR's fiat/the suborned/cowardly Prime Minister. Further, the British ministry tries (badly) to hide from Muggles, appears to hold Merlin in high regard, and Hogwards is proud of less than a thousand years of history. Chinese magical organizations are unlikely to consider a thousand years as much beyond "those young whippersnappers", and while I'd expect a greater degree of integration between magic and the government and the martial arts community, the magical community is likely pre-communism, which could be... interesting.

What does the Japanese government think? Do they care?

I would note very seriously that Fleur is half-Veela (apparently half-human). I see zero confirmation in canon that full Veelas can use wands, and zero confirmation that they can't. House-elves, goblins, humans, and various part-humans are the only ones I've seen confirmation on wand-use from.

Note that I don't recally any Chinese or Japanese involvement in the Quiddich World Cup.

Note also that involving Ranma in the Harry Potter main storyline isn't as bad as involving Muggle technology, but is very unlikely to leave the original in anything like the state it was before. See http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3281389/11/Honor_among_Thieves
for an example.

If you take the movies into account, it's incredibly unlikely that any Ranma series martial artist can be hit by any want-fired spell that travels at a range of over a few feet, unless they're unaware. Spells travel too slowly.

You do really need to determine where the story is going first, how it ends, and then check your starting point to see if the characters would actually get there on their own, given, say, Ranma's fight first, second, third, and so on attitude.

Critical note: so, what about Genma? He's not going to abandon Ranma, or the Tendo marriage pledge.
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Postby Dumbledork » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:41 am

As I said before. I scratched a lot of my first ideas.

As for Genma, no, he won't abandon Ranma. In fact, in this story he's a good man. Unfortunately, Nodokas parents don'tlike him very much and put him under the Imperius curse. That's why he doesn't think too much about what he's doing. The main reason he took Ranmaon the training trip (apart from making him the ehir to his art) was to get him away from Nodoka's bigoted family who was ashamed to have a squib born into their clan.

As for the engagement with the Tendos it is still valid, but Genma doesn't know about it. In this story it was Nodoka and Mrs. Tendo who made the pact (both were together at their magical school and best friends).

I thought that wouldgive an interesting spin on the usual Bastard!Genma stories. Genma really loves his son in this story.
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Postby EdenB » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:08 am

Dumbledork wrote:In this story it was Nodoka and Mrs. Tendo who made the pact (both were together at their magical school and best friends).


Wasn't Nodoka a squib? Unless you've changed that anyway.

Having Genma be the loving one would be interesting.

If you have Durmstang not attend which seems like the best idea, it might be a problem to actually come up with a reason why a school from a fairly small country half way around the world was invited, rather than Salem or another European school or one from a bigger or closer country. Easy enough to get rid of Durmstang though, the ex-Death Eater caught doing something or not allowed back in the country because of his past crimes.
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Postby Dumbledork » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:46 am

I see. So I should simply get rid of Durmstrang. That's a possibility. As for the reason for the Japanese school, maybe the school has become famous over the last years and joined the other three as one of the most prestigious. That's always a possibility.

Having Genma be the loving one would be interesting


I think so too. Basically, Nodoka's family wants to get rid of Ranma and Nodoka simply doesn't care for her son. She may not wish harm on her husband and son, but sees Ranma as a disappointment, so she doesn't mind Genma taking him on the trip after he gave her a magical daughter so that the Future of the family is secured.

Yes, Ranma has a sister he doesn't know about. And I have some plans about them meeting at Hogwarts during the Triwizard Tournament.
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Postby Ahye » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:50 pm

Reasons for involving a Japanese or Chinese school needn't be too complicated. You could make it something as simple as Albus knowing either Coulone or Happy from the past, and he happens to get a letter or phone call from them, just as a purly social call. Or maybe Coulone needs some special herb that only grows in Britain, and she gives him a call asking if he can send her some, and they get to discussing things from there. My knowledge of Dumbledore is somewhat lacking, but I believe he's roughly 150 or so years old? That would place him in his youth sometime around the Opium wars between Britian and China, if you stretch the years just a hair, so you could come up with some plausable reason for him to be in China around then as a young man, and possibly having encountered either Coulone or Happy.
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Postby Lord Aries Greymon » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:11 pm

Or, It could still be the Tri-wizard tournament, but involve all four, or more, schools.

Aftwer all, Barty Crouch Jr. did dick around with the Goblet of Fire, which then coughed up 4 names instead of 3.

Simply have it hack up more names.
Possible explanation #1: The Cup, being mildly sentient, chooses someone as a 'protector' of sorts.

Possible #2: The cup, having been bound by very powerfull magic to give a set amount of competitors, (and having apparently been confused into throwing out Potter's name in addition to the chosen amount) is so confused it believes some form of "re-do" was called, and so spits out additional names.
There, obviously, is no such "re-do" rule on the books, so the wizard-governments simply proceed with all the "selected" competitors.

Possible reason #3: Crouch was incompetent, and bungled the job. Now, Harry's name isn't chosen as the Extra competitor, but rather, Ranma's.

There's possibly a few more variations on "the cup was screwed with soo poorly/well", but I'm tired of thinking of them.


Another option, allso cup related, is that it chooses from a small-ish grouping of schools as ranked by the International Confederation of Wizards (ICW).
The last time the ICW actually bothered to rank schools, was prior to Grindelwald WWII.
During that last ranking, it was 2 of the "cannon" schools, and the yet to be named Japanese/Chinese/ Generic Asian school.
Having no new ranking, the cup simply uses the last available rankings.
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Postby Dumbledork » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:36 am

I need some advice. I want to somewhat stay true to the NWC character and motivation. In this story Akane, Nabiki, Kuno and Kodachi are attending a magic school. Now, if they stay true to character, do you think they'd abuse their magical talent? I'd say yes. I have some plans for a Dark Lady Nabiki. And I could see the Kunos as pureblood fanatics who consider muggles as kettle and aren't above raping and obliviating them. I see them somewhat as a Japanese Malfoy family.

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Postby CJN » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:26 am

Nabiki and Kodachi would work well, but Akane and Kuno are more problematic to keep in character. Kuno would be the one least likely to abuse magic, because he has a kind of "good guy" self-image.
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Postby Dumbledork » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:48 am

CJN wrote:Nabiki and Kodachi would work well, but Akane and Kuno are more problematic to keep in character. Kuno would be the one least likely to abuse magic, because he has a kind of "good guy" self-image.


Akane is a hothead. I can see her hex people when she's angry. As for Kuno, he thinks he's better than the others. Keep in mind that the Kunos have grown up with magic and have been in contact with the magical world for all of their lives, so their might be a shift in character.
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Postby CJN » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:28 am

Dumbledork wrote:Akane is a hothead. I can see her hex people when she's angry. As for Kuno, he thinks he's better than the others. Keep in mind that the Kunos have grown up with magic and have been in contact with the magical world for all of their lives, so their might be a shift in character.


The thing about Akane here is she primarily a witch, a martial artist or both? And how would you replace the morning fights and their influence on her character? Akane would be the one of those four that would have to change the most to fit in a magical school.
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Postby Dumbledork » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:03 am

First, I'll only mention the school in passing, when Ranma will visit the Tendos for a short while after his return from China, before trying to find someone to help him with his developing powers. And the NWC won't appear again until the Triwizard Tournament.
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Postby Dumbledork » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:51 pm

I have some questions.

Was it ever explained i the HP books why Gabrielle accompanied Fleur to Hogwarts?

And what informations do we have on the Veela in the Potterverse?

All of them are beautiful women (are all of them blonde?); they have an aura that allows them to entrance men; they have a horrible avian form and can throw fireballs. Can they fly in avian form?
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Postby Dumbledork » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:41 am

I have the perfect curse for Ryoga, and it's a magical creature from the HPverse I thoguth about P-Chans characteristics and what HP creature came close.

What are P-Chan's characteristics?

- 'cute' (not in my opinion, but hey, what do I know) and popular with the girls
- defenseless except for his bite
- can't speak
- has natural enemies (butchers, little kids, wild animals, kleptomaniac girls)


And there's a creature in HP that would make the perfect curse: the pixie.

- pixies are cute (although the HP ones have a lot of issues)
- pretty defenseless, but can fly
- can't speak (or at least we don't hear them speak)
- have natural enemies (wild animals, apothecaries, potion brewers, wizards in general)

And it will be fun once the curse bleeds over. A human with pixie wings. Talk about embarrassing
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Postby WG_Writer » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:13 pm

:twisted: This hit me while reading your idea...
Wai!!! My manly son!!! You will soon be attracting every girl around!


So are you using canon Nodoka or Fanon?
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Postby Dumbledork » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:52 pm

I will use neither of them. In this story she's from an old wizarding family and very disappointed that Ranma is a squib. So she lets Genma do whatever he wants with him. She's not interested at all, especially since she also got a daughter that is magically gifted.

And Genma knows that Nodoka, a pureblood fanatic, will react very badly to Ranma's curse and avoids her.

In this story Genma is a moron but genuinely loves his son and really thinks everything he's done was for his good. An the reason as to why Genma doesn't think things true will be revealed in the first chapter. But you can guess if you want.
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