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Postby Atlan » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:49 am

This would certainly explain the Magical artifacts of Ranma's time and it's known that Jusenkyou has been around for atleast three thousend years, it's a common plot device to have the Pools of Sorrow originate from one off the battles at the end of the SM, or a result of a magical transformation experiment gone wrong

Or as another idea, say the Atlantian colonists wanted to minimize their impact to the locals. At one point they decided to get as many of those magical things as they could and bury them- in a mountain called Jusendo.
Then, like nuclar waste poisins the water, the magic had funky effects in the spring there too.
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Postby WG_Writer » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:02 am

Atlan I think you would be correct about just Atlantis being advanced, that would be very likely. even today we still have some people on earth that are still in the Stone ages. Something that is often overlooked is that people are inherintly greedy and hord technology.
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Postby Daniel Jess Gibson » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:51 am

Atlan wrote:Or as another idea, say the Atlantian colonists wanted to minimize their impact to the locals. At one point they decided to get as many of those magical things as they could and bury them- in a mountain called Jusendo.
Then, like nuclar waste poisins the water, the magic had funky effects in the spring there too.

Harry Turtledove did a book called The Toxic Spelldump describing exactly that effect.
I wonder if there's been a fic that had that as the conflict between the NWC and she Scouts 'Because of you I've seen Hell!'. Trying to get the scouts to quit using their powers to prevent magical pollution.
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Postby Hazard » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:54 pm

Wargiver wrote: Atlan I think you would be correct about just Atlantis being advanced, that would be very likely. even today we still have some people on earth that are still in the Stone ages. Something that is often overlooked is that people are inherintly greedy and hord technology

Hmm, I had forgotten that, though one has to keep in mind that the climate in most of those instances is rather hard on any modern technology or such a technology stall is voluntary. This does make another interesting thought, mayhaps the Earth is/was in some way rather incompatible with Silver Milenium style magic? This is extremely unlikely though
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Postby Atlan » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:36 pm

The cargo cults of the pacific come to mind. Imagine that- the real reason for Stone henge and the prymids- the natives coppying low flying ships.
As another note- many times in history, the colonys of an empire (when they become strong enough) decide they want independance, and are prepared to fight for it. Brittian is a great example- once, their empire covered large parts of the world. Now days, they have england, scotland, Wales, and Ireland (or not, depending on how you look at it). New Zealand and Austrailia pay mere lip service to the queen, and America is doing everything it can to make people forget it was ever related to the UK.
Hows that for an explanation of Beryl's war with Serinity- an independace rebellion that went a bit too far.
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Postby gsteemso » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:47 am

Daniel Jess Gibson wrote:I wonder if there's been a fic that had that as the conflict between the NWC and she Scouts 'Because of you I've seen Hell!'. Trying to get the scouts to quit using their powers to prevent magical pollution.

Funny you should say that. It's pretty much the "other way of looking at" the situation I'm building up to in Permutation, wherein the restoration of the ancient magic of the Silver Millennium is causing vast hordes of minor magical creatures to multiply and spread across the land. That's why the Hiccup Imp J. St. C. Patrick illustrated for us from chapter 6 is such a big deal in the story -- it's a symptom. The NWC does indeed tend to bear the brunt of the upswing in magical occurrences, though in my story most of them won't realize there's any particular group to blame. Lucky break for the Sailors.
Touching on another point raised in this thread, it has occurred to me that the apparent lack of SM artefacts in the archaeological record can be explained away by saying they were largely based on magic. If they were made and operated by magic and that magic was interrupted, who's to say the remains would even be recognizeable as an artifact? Some things might be made of cheap and readily available materials like rocks and air, or even reified imagination. In such a case it might well be easier to enchant a new one than to try and reenchant an old one, as has already happened in modern electronics (just try getting a water-damaged modern computer keyboard repaired! -- it can't be done!); that would mean they'd have even less reason to put any physical manufacturing effort in. Any flaws in the raw material (cracks, unevenness, blemishes, gratuitous existence failure, etc.) would easily be concealed by magic and thus not worth changing in the original manufacture, so after x thousand years in the ground it would just look like a plain rock or whatever. Perishable items like sticks might be preserved, but not look any different than some bored Neanderthal's discarded whittling project!
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Postby Materia-Blade » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:53 pm

So basically "Look to the museums at the boring stuff no one "actually" cares about... secretly... those are the atom bombs..."
Heh.
I agree with the age thing. The further back you go, the more believable the whole "Long ago civilization" becomes. I personally prefer 20,000. Was that Japanesse Manga cannon? Not sure... Regardless, that's my focal point.
With all this even so it still seems kinda like your adverage Sailor Sun fic.
It'd be interesting to asume that Ranma had an older sibling who died between the age of 0 & 11. Even so I can't imagine that playing too big of a part. Your enemies are par the course for sailor moon as it seems.
So shut down ranma = shut down the sun. Hmm. I want to see sailor Betelgeuse.
Now there was one thing that intrigued me. The Senshi (fannon wise anyway) want the great freeze. If this "enemy" (Dark Star Union was it?) Wants the great freeze... doesn't that make them allies in a twisted sort of way? Perhaps you intend for their fight to inevitably cause the great freeze?
Hmm. Just a suggestion that I've been thinking about but never actually thought about writing.
What if the Senshi, all of them, were sent from the future, by pluto, to cause the great freeze in the past?
Now the great freeze is gonna kill alotta people and the older senshi know this. Their used to it. It allready happened to them, but this is a thousand years later remember. Now... what if they found that, if they caused the great freeze earlier that less people would die? (On an overall scale spanning from the year 2000 BC to 3000 BC)
So they come back in time and get confronted by the normal Senshi eh? Just an Idea I've been toying with. A little off subject too. But anyways.
Good luck to ya! It looks like it'd be a pretty good fic on an overall scale. I'd love to see it!
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Postby WG_Writer » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:04 pm

i think, to do the fic right Pluto can't know the future, as in this causes it, or she doesn't get involved. as to Sailor Betelgeuse... Its a thought but I would prefer to go all the way
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but back on topic...
I can see a quarter of the fic running with Ranma being clueless, and another eighth of it with him being in full out denial. plus several fights where he tries to do it with out transforming.
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Postby Hazard » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:12 am

A star that big and coloured red is most likely building to Nova, interesting plot point, Sailor VV Cephei either drops dead or unexpectedly explodes, destroying a large part of Tokyo. Anyone willing to make a fic on it?
Fannon is not unified on the Senshi want Freeze thing. Most do agree that Pluto is working towards it and the Outers are not all that opposed. I can't see the Inner Senshi simply stand by though, when they may be able to save humanity.
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Postby Seraphim » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:01 am

Materia-Blade wrote:I agree with the age thing. The further back you go, the more believable the whole "Long ago civilization" becomes. I personally prefer 20,000. Was that Japanesse Manga cannon? Not sure... Regardless, that's my focal point.

Going by the translation by Alex Glover it could even be millions of years.
Silver Millennium was fairly techologically advanced the manga mentioned an "Eternity Main System" and the secret room in Crown being a terminal of it.
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