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Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:18 pm

I was thinking about having an unusual training trip time line end up with Ranma attending classes at Hogwarts starting the same time as Harry Potter.

The way the timeline runs:

It starts out with Ranma and Genma starting on doing training trips (short ones at first) at age 2
Meeting up with the person he's sold to for the Rice fish and 2 pickles.

Nodoka's fight against Genma taking Ranma on trips and the signing of the Sepuku pledge happens after the first trip took her infant Ranma away from her for more than a week. Shortly before Ranma's 3rd birthday.

Genma finally has Nodoka's trust to not try to tag along or call the cops on him after just one week again around the time Ranma is 5 and he uses that trust to start what would have been the 10 year training trip.

Around the time Ranma turns 6 they meet up with the Kuonji's and end up spending about 4 months with them including the Gambling King mess.

Days after Ranma's 7th Birthday Genma has run out of Anything Goes Kata for Ranma to learn and is looking through other training guides that he has stolen along the way. Discovering the Neko-ken guide. It takes a while to find a good place and gather up enough fish + Cats but it leads to Ranma spending nearly a month in that pit.

After Ranma breaks out of the Pit in the Neko-ken he ends up seeking out the nearest powerful and kind aura he can detect. Which happens to be the home of a witch. She's surprised that anyone even found her home since it is under privacy wards and Notice Me Not charms. The fact he realized she was there at all makes her suspect he has the gift for magic.

She is also the daughter of a member of the Joketsuzoku Amazons. Her family has encountered the Neko-Ken before. She manages to ease Ranma's mind and make it possible for him to return from the madness.

Between her continuing studies of magic and the tribal lore of Jusenkyo she has a possible cure for the Neko-ken but it involves the spring of Drowned Cat and the Spring of Drowned Twins. The result makes the Neko-Ken spirit into a Cat Familiar of the one who was subjected to the training.

To make it so Genma can find his Son she rents the house next door and waits there with him. While they wait she teaches Ranma the basics of the Hidden Weapons technique so that instructions for the Neko-Ken cure can be kept hidden from his idiot father. When Genma finally arrives she puts a compulsion on him to seek out the Jusendo valley and her tribe so that they may fix his mistake. Hopefully before Ranma is old enough for Magical training.

This leads to Genma and Ranma being in China (Yes still swimming the Sea to get there) before Ranma is 9 And even though Ranma is insisting on finding the Amazons Genma refuses to pass up on this Jusnekyo Training Ground that appears to have so many in the area scared.

That ends up with the expected curses. And being so much younger Ryouga wasn't met yet and they are definitely too early for Shampoo to be in a tournament of champions. So although they are changing into a Panda and a Girl it causes allot less trouble than their normal trip to the springs.

Finally the Jusenkyo Guide brings them to the Amazon village where Ranma gives the letter from the lady who helped him out of the Neko-Ken to one of the elders. The Jusenkyo curse from the Spring of Drowned Girl complicates things a bit. But the spell and cure for the Neko-ken can still work.

The Results however instead of a simple cat familiar Ranma and the cat both end up with gender changing curses. And the resultant cat isn't a normal cat. It can talk like a human while a cat and shift to other forms like a Lycanthrope.

While they are in the Village Genma hears the "Legend" of a tribe of strong male warriors that appear to have died off 200 years ago that used the springs to make wives. He doesn't believe anything beyond strong male fighters and decides to seek them out to cure Ranma of all the Girly influence picked up in this village of Amazons.

That results in the Lycan-kitty getting hit with water from the locking laddle. Shocking the Musk that she locked as a girl cat and not a woman. Genma manages to flee with Ranma and the Lycan-kitty before they douse the boy too.

These are my backstory idea changes for Ranma before ending up getting an invite to Hogwats. What do you think and any suggestions to help flesh it out into at least a Pre-Potter prologue?

I don't mind if someone else takes it and makes a story with it so long as you let me know. I'd like to read it. So please suggestions comments. Ideas for the Kitty's name. Remember it would probably get named when it can still change genders.

Note:Like Gold Digger Lycanthropes the Kitty has a Cat Form a Hybrid Form and a Human Form. But being a small cat the cat form is smaller than human. But this wasn't a creation like the Were-Cats of Gold Digger so no silver handicap.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Shanami » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:18 pm

The problem I have with this is that someone would give Ranma back to Genma if they knew what the Neko-ken was about, especially if they had a method of hiding from him. To the best of my knowledge (and its been a really long time since I read this part of the manga) the old woman doesn't know exactly what happened to Ranma, so she didn't have any moral obligation to prevent his return to his father. If the witch knew what the Neko-ken was, I'd think she'd get a portkey immediately and take Ranma to the Amazons herself to get him away from the clearly detrimental influence of his father.

I do like the rest of the idea, at least the binding of the Neko-ken into a familiar, and I just don't really like Ranma stories without him being cursed. A possible timeline that could work would be for Ranma and Genma to have gone to Jusenkyo on the way to say.. Europe at a much younger age than normal. Ranma could get the girl curse at say... age 5 or 6, where he wouldn't necessarily really know the difference and perhaps Genma wouldn't even find out.

Eventually, they get to England, where Genma teaches Ranma the Neko-ken... from there, he meets that witch the same way, but this time, she gives him a compulsion to leave them alone. Perhaps the witch happened to be Madame Pomfrey (though she doesn't seem like Amazon spawn, you never know) and she could take care of Ranma while attempting to heal him up. Then he could be tested for magic with the Amazons and set to attend Hogwarts with say... Shampoo as his/her best friend from having spent some time in the village. Ranma would have to get in tons of trouble, because at this point, s/he'd be so used to switching genders that s/he doesn't even really notice the difference. Puberty could hit in first year for his girl form, hilarity ensuing.

But, aside from all that, if Ranma were to go to Hogwarts, what house would you think he'd be in. I see 2 main options, Griff, since Ranma tends to grandiose acts of bravery or perhaps Ravenclaw, since he loves learning about combat, and I can see magical learning being similar to martial arts learning for him. I don't really see him as being all that cunning most of the time, so no snakes, and he just doesn't strike me as a puff. I could really see him on a quidditch team though, doing things that seem really stupid but aren't if you are in the kind of condition he is in... like jumping off the broom to kick off of the stands to roundhouse a bludger at another player to land back on the broom.

Anywho, I'd like to see more Ranma/HP crosses that are good, or just really funny.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:29 pm

How about instead of the Compulsion she tells Genma that her Tribe can possibly cure the Neko-ken and allowing him to take his Son on the trip is part of Genma's trial for this offense?

As to why she doesn't just Port Key I was planning on Jusendo Valley being a place you can't port or apparate into. Kinda like there's Anti Apparation disapparation wards around Hogwarts. But its more a natural hazard because the energies from Jusenkyo make transportation magic unreliable. A high chance of dropping someone into the spring if they port closer than a days travel. And the Lady has her own life. She might not want to risk going to a place that might be more challenging than she is healthy enough to make the trip to. She's not a Matriarch and as a Witch not a Warrior she might not have the physical conditioning of the Elders in the Tribe.

Plus as far as she can tell the Father is a Muggle and she could end up having to have a big mess needing to toss around Obliviations on Muggle Law enforcement and more hassle than its worth if she just popped away with the child.

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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Shanami » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:50 am

I like that idea a bit more. I think it's reasonable that she wouldn't go herself and making it so Jusenkyo inhibits magical transport also makes sense.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:33 am

Thinking about your question about which house Ranma should go in I did a bit of searching and came across this.
So try me on and I will tell you
Where you ought to be.

You might belong in Gryffindor,
Where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve, and chivalry Set Gryffindors apart;

You might belong in Hufflepuff,
Where they are just and loyal,
Those patient Hufflepuffis are true And unafraid of toil;

Or yet in wise old Ravenclaw,
if you've a ready mind,
Where those of wit and learning,
Will always find their kind;

Or perhaps in Slytherin
You'll make your real friends,
Those cunning folk use any means
To achieve their ends.
Given Ranma's behavior in Furinkan I think we can safely discount Ravenclaw no matter how intelligent he is there's just no shown enthusiasm unless its his focused specialty of martial arts.

All Ranma is really missing from Griffindor is chivalry And the only way you can claim he has it is if you accept the sexist misconception of treating girls as delicate flowers as your notion for what it means.

Ranma might make a good Hufflepuff. The only real marks against him come from his upbringing not really teaching him what is normally accepted by society.

I can't imagine Ranma in Slytherin. I mean if he were that cunning he wouldn't get into most of the situations he does a person who would use any means to get their ends achieved would not be bothered by the Sepuku contract nor end up in the Fiancée mess.

So out of Griffindor and Hufflepuff which one is better for Ranma? The Just and Loyal or the Brave an Chivalrous?

Edit: Leaving my wrong inside out statement in place. The Chivalry that Ranma does not have is the modern courtesy its the older honorable and knightly connotations that might fit with him but even then its a bit of wiggle room around what it means to be honorable that lets him have it. Chivalry article in Wikipedia.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby AshK1980 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:51 am

I can't really think of a specific one. I know for sure he doesn't belong in Ravenclaw or Slytherin.

I think he would make a good Griffindor.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:09 pm

You know reading over the whole Wikipedia page Kuno and Ranma are two opposite extremes of the view on Chivalry.
Ranma upholds the Honor the fighting drive and the service to protect those who need defending.
Kuno is courtly in manner affects the airs to be a role model to those of his protectorate and attempts to woo ladies that pique his interests.
Both could be considered Chivalrous to extremes. So in theory both could fit in Griffendor. Good thing this history doesn't get far enough to include the Kuno.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:33 pm

Considering Nerima residents and all. Should any of the people from Ranma 1/2 be magical? And if so who do you think would be good to bring to Hogwarts?

Don't forget to say why or how you think they would spice things up.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:11 pm

Spokavriel wrote: Considering Nerima residents and all. Should any of the people from Ranma 1/2 be magical? And if so who do you think would be good to bring to Hogwarts?

Anyone but Gosunkugi! Outside of him, the best candidates I can think of would be Cologne, Mousse, and Kodachi. Cologne would be a professor, Mousse a Hufflepuff, and Kodachi a Slytherin.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:23 pm

What would Cologne be a professor of?

Kodachi clearly has some Potions going for her but I think it might be kinda fun if her grandmother on her mothers side was Snape's aunt. Give them a family tie and the hint of Nepotism that is all over most successful people in the Wizarding world.

As for Mousse I can't see him letting himself go to Hogwarts without Shampoo. He's too obsessed beyond devotion to her. So could Shampoo fit in Hogwarts?
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:44 pm

Spokavriel wrote: What would Cologne be a professor of?

Kodachi clearly has some Potions going for her but I think it might be kinda fun if her grandmother on her mothers side was Snape's aunt. Give them a family tie and the hint of Nepotism that is all over most successful people in the Wizarding world.

As for Mousse I can't see him letting himself go to Hogwarts without Shampoo. He's too obsessed beyond devotion to her. So could Shampoo fit in Hogwarts?


Well, Cologne is heir to 3,000 years of Amazon history; and with things like the Reversal Jewel, that includes magic. I could see her doing magical herbs.

No problem about Kodachi.

As for Mousse/Shampoo, Shampoo might make a good familiar and spy. Cologne might insist on it.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:50 pm

The Familiar idea doesn't really play that well. Shampoo isn't cursed yet. But Mousse was an obsessed annoyance since they were 3? 7+ years of frustrating annoyance before the Hogwarts possibility comes along. But Mousse also seems older than her... So he might have already turned down an acceptance letter to continue pursuing Shampoo.

These are the kind of loops my mind is going in from the time frame that make it hard for me to see Mousse making it into Hogwarts.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby frice2000 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:29 pm

Umm...I know next to nothing about Harry Potter cannon except what I read in this thread (and grudgingly watched while playing with my iPod covertly while my parents showed me a 'wonderful' movie) regarding the placement of people's in the schools but why dismiss Slytherin out of hand? His martial arts school is all about taking advantages of a persons weaknesses and causing them anger and irritation in order to get a win. Hence using every form of advantage he has in hand. His personality yes would more then likely fit better into one of the other schools but his actions don't exactly preclude him from any of the paths you had illustrated.

Of course I could be entirely wrong since I am willfully ignorant on the whole Harry Potter fandom thing so ignore me if I'm totally off base!
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:34 pm

I have trouble seeing Ranma casually killing someone because they are a minor inconvenience to said person's advancement in power. Most Slytherins I can't say that.
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Re: Ranma-More than half- At Hogwarts.

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:51 pm

So no name suggestions for the Neko-kenthrope.

On the Slytherin thing. So long as they can see a way to avoid the consequences causing more harm to them than the act, no matter how A-moral, would gain in advantages. Most Slytherins would do Anything. Kiss arse, Murder, Curse, Steal, Blackmail, Lie, Cheat, you name it. Its Anything Goes to the darkest extreme. Honor is a word many of them laugh at the notion of.
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