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Postby Lenneth » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:43 pm

While I'm getting over my Writers Block with my other Fic I thought I might play around with this one.
It will be a Ranma/Xenosaga/Xenogears Cross that will start just as Ranma and Genma Reach Jusenkyo.
(Might Cross With Sailor Moon later on)
The Idea is to have a slight Curse Change for Ranma and him being sent forward in time in one way or another eventualy metting up with some of the Xenosaga & Xenogears Gang.
The Curse Change will only be Minor as Ranma Will Still turn into a Girl, but the Girl Will be the Xenosaga Android Kos-Mos, but with some Changes.
(Might Make it a Simi-Permanent Change)
Not Feeling to weel at the moment so that's all I can think of to post, so what do you think?
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Postby bissek » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:49 pm

Xenosaga and Xenogears are at best radically different time periods of the same universe. I don't think you can crossover both at the same time.
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Postby Lenneth » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:25 pm

The Way I'm thinking of doing it it should work.;)
(SPOILER WARNING)
Ok, for One point, in Xenosaga 2, Jin Uzuki (Former Doctor) said to Shion that the Reason he closed his Clinic was that every Human Ailment could be cured with medication so there was no point.
now think of this, what would be the next stage of advancement in Medicine from that?
Stopping Human Ageing & Death.
Which in the game is a highly Plausible thing to happen, look at Ziggy for Example, he was Brought back to life, and how old was he In the Game?
Also remember Jr's comment to Ziggy that with Modern Rellian Technology his Cyborg Implants could be Replaced and Ziggys Lifespan could be increased by 5000+ years.
If you take advantage of such key points you can quite easily make such a fic work.
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Postby Pale Wolf » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:55 pm

Yeah, but honestly?
A: You'd have to prove reasonably, in-fic, that they'll last that long.
B: If you want Ranma to be with both groups, you'll also have to figure out a meeting between the Saga and Gears groups, then come up with a reason why the Xenosaga people sat around doing nothing during all the historical events of Xenogears.
Why bother? Pick one.
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Postby Lenneth » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:43 pm

That's part of the reason why I decide to cross it with Sailor Moon later on, I plan to give the 3 groups a enemy to fight that will take all of their abillitys combined to defeat.
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Postby WG_Writer » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:46 pm

I'd go with a stasis accident my self, magical or technological, perhaps more time travel.
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Postby Tovath » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:51 pm

Look if you want to have Xenosaga and Xenogears in it then cross it over with Chrno Trigger instead. That way you will have 3 groups and a more resonable way for the charaters in Xenosaga and Xenogears to meet.
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Postby Anchoku » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:52 pm

The important question, in my mind, is, "What is the story?" While there are many unique and interesting crossovers, without a good story, they don't hold my interest very long. This is where I have a hard time connecting "story" with "crossover."
If it's implausible to start with, I end up with a slapstick comedy. If I'm going for "suspension of disbelief," I find myself limited to modern, ninety-ish Japan without mecha, radical amounts of magic, barbarian warlords and any number of extreme circumstances. Ranma 1/2 is set in a world very much like our own and that puts limits on crossovers.
For instance, a crossover idea with Patlabor I've tinkered with turns out very difficult for me because of the subtle difference in settings. However, I easily scribbled out plots for crossovers with Hana Yori Dango, KOR, Yawara, Kodomo no Omoccha or, W Juliet.
I'm not trying to dissuade you from your Xenosaga/gears crossover but am just trying to point out picking the right elements will make it both easier for you to write and more attractive to your readers. I prefer the easier path because I'd rather focus on interactions than making universes overlap.
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Postby Lenneth » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:00 pm

Anchoku:
I Understand what you're saying, my problem just now is I'm trying to hard to no give away to many spoilers on it.
*sigh* I guess I can try to write up a Prologue/Sneak Peak of sorts for it....
Would that hep?
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Postby Anchoku » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:38 pm

Yep! Or, keep it secret. That's what I'm doing for the most part. I've read some books on writiing fiction and keeping a story secret until it's developed and ready for publication seems extremely important. It allows you to change things without admitting it. You can also set your own schedule. I seem to be late all the time.
(I wish there were a magical method of feeding ideas into the computer psionically and have the computer write out the details.)
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Postby Lenneth » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:43 pm

Anchoku wrote:(I wish there were a magical method of feeding ideas into the computer psionically and have the computer write out the details.)

hehe, not to mention a way for it to automaticaly find the best wording.
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Postby Climhazard » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:31 pm

Maybe i'm wrong, but between Saga and Gears exist insane time interval.
From 15 thousand years to 30 thousand... It long way to live ^_^.
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Postby Lenneth » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:11 pm

15,000 years from the destruction of the Eldridge.
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Postby GenocideHeart » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:28 am

Um, here's a little detail for ya.
Jusenkyou springs are created by creatures drowning in it.
KOS MOS does NOT need to breathe.
So how the hell can Ranma fall in Spring of Drowned KOS MOS if she can't drown to begin with?
Remember, all springs come from LIVING creatures. KOS MOS is pretty much an artificial construct, not living in the true sense of the word, so I don't see Jusenkyou affecting her in the slightest. The seres shows that unliving things can't be cursed, so I doubt they can curse a pool.
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Postby Pale Wolf » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:37 am

Remember, all springs come from LIVING creatures.

No... apparently not.
Remember Rouge's Spring of Drowned Ashura? That was from a statue that 'drowned' in the pool. The distinction between what causes a curse and what doesn't isn't as simple as 'biological/not'.
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