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My HiME/Ranma crossover

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:50 am
by Sailor Sedai (Ellf)
I don't know how many people have seen My HiME, but I just finished watching it and a couple ideas had been stirring in my head since then. This is the first of the two.
We see in the Anime that the Searss foundation has created their own HiME through experimentation, and this HiME is Alyssa Searss. Would it not logically follow that they would want to try to see if they could make a HiME male as well?
Anyway, the idea is that Genma, in order to pay off one of his many debts sold Ranma as a research subject to the Searss foundation shortly after Ranma met Ukyo. This is before Alyssa is born and when they are early on in their research. They experiment on Ranma, attempting to give him the ability to manipulate Higher order Matter, thus turning him into a male HiME. However, in the middle of the experiments Genma steals Ranma back, having to resort to the Umi-Senken in order to get past the Searss security.
What isn't known by any of them is how successful the experiment was, but as Ranma was male it was dubbed a failure. Obviously the HiME star cannont allow a male to have its powers.
Ten years later, Ranma arrives at Jusenkyo and gets his curse. Still nothing, the story of Ranma 1/2 goes on as usual. However, after the Saffron fight, Ranma notices a red star near the moon, but it is only there when he is in female form.
After the failed wedding, both Ranma and Akane recieve invitations to go to the Fuka Academy, with scholarships being paid for by the Searss foundation. Searss had tracked Ranma down and had gotten hold of his recent blood samples and learned that he indeed was the only Male HiME, and they learned of his female form.
The fic itself is a rewrite of the My HiME storyline with Ranma involved. I'm not sure if I'll do it or not, but it seemed like a cool idea.
The other idea is a Sailor Moon/My HiME cross... and I have plans to possibly write that one. Which is why there won't be a full explanation of the idea until I at least have a prologue and first chapter done.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:39 am
by Knight of L-sama
Couple of questions.
Would Alyssa and Miyu still be at Fuuka? If Ranma dissapeared it would seem logical that Searrs would continue on with their research project with Alyssa as the end result.
What consequences would being a HiME, at least in female form have for Ranma? Would he have a Child? If so what form would it take? Would he have the same ability as Alyssa to control Orphans (becuase Searrs didn't achieve Elements until their second generation artificial HiME and if the stuff done on Ranma predates Alyssa...). Also would he show any enhanced physical abilities that the true HiME show (as opposed to Alyssa's physical frailty)?
Also how would it effect the final battle since that would mean there would be three HiME who can enter the Gates of Valhalla rather than just two? Would it be Ranma or would it be another of the natural HiME?
On a totally unrelated note: A Hiryu Shoten Ha powered by Kagutsuchi level fire blasts. Scary, scary concept.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:16 pm
by Sailor Sedai (Ellf)
Knight of L-sama wrote:Couple of questions.
Would Alyssa and Miyu still be at Fuuka? If Ranma dissapeared it would seem logical that Searrs would continue on with their research project with Alyssa as the end result.

Yes, Alyssa and Miyu would indeed still be at the Fuuka Academy. The project for a male HiME was scrapped and Alyssa ended up being the result.
What consequences would being a HiME, at least in female form have for Ranma? Would he have a Child? If so what form would it take? Would he have the same ability as Alyssa to control Orphans (becuase Searrs didn't achieve Elements until their second generation artificial HiME and if the stuff done on Ranma predates Alyssa...). Also would he show any enhanced physical abilities that the true HiME show (as opposed to Alyssa's physical frailty)?

Yes, Ranma would indeed have a Child. It would take the form of a dragon... I've dubbed it Ryusei. It basically is the counter to Kagatsuchi in that it is the Dragon to its Phoenix.
Ranma is unique from Alyssa and the other HiME in that his Element is an actual item that he picked up. His Element is the combined form of the Gekkaja and Kinjakan. (Yes I'm using the Ascension staff, Ozz shall get credit)
Ranma's natural abilities will also neither be enhanced nor in deficit due to him being a HiME. This is so he doesn't outshine the other HiME. However, you may see him beating up Nagi for calling him a HiME too many times.
(Don't get me wrong, Nagi is one of my favorite characters, but I can see Ranma being called "Princess" getting on his nerves.)
Also how would it effect the final battle since that would mean there would be three HiME who can enter the Gates of Valhalla rather than just two? Would it be Ranma or would it be another of the natural HiME?

This is undecided at the moment, but it would make the final battle against Kokuyou a lot more decisive.
On a totally unrelated note: A Hiryu Shoten Ha powered by Kagutsuchi level fire blasts. Scary, scary concept.

Yes, yes it is, and it may happen.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:40 am
by Knight of L-sama
Sailor Sedai (Ellf) wrote:Yes, Ranma would indeed have a Child. It would take the form of a dragon... I've dubbed it Ryusei. It basically is the counter to Kagatsuchi in that it is the Dragon to its Phoenix.

I have no objection to Ranma having a child but it as a dragon might not be the best idea. I don't know about the Japanese fans but most English language fans consider Kagatsuchi to be a mix of dragon, phoenix and whale (the last mostly due to it's vocalisations).
Sailor Sedai (Ellf) wrote:Ranma is unique from Alyssa and the other HiME in that his Element is an actual item that he picked up. His Element is the combined form of the Gekkaja and Kinjakan. (Yes I'm using the Ascension staff, Ozz shall get credit)

... I've actually got two issues with this, or at least points that would need explaining for nitpickers. The first is Ranma actually having an Element. You would need to explain how Ranma has one while Alyssa, who is technically a more advanced form of artificial HiME doesn't and needs Miyu to defend her from direct attacks by other HiME.
Second is the form. For one thing I thought that the staves stayed at Phoenix Mountain waiting for the time when Saffron needs them again. Secondly the Elements are supposed to be based on the HiME's own soul/personality and using a pre-existing item seems a bit of a copout. (Though I suppose toy could explain both away by having the staves imprint their forms since as his powers started to awaken and making it clear that they're not actually the Gekkaja and Kinjakan).

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:37 pm
by Sailor Sedai (Ellf)
Knight of L-sama wrote:I have no objection to Ranma having a child but it as a dragon might not be the best idea. I don't know about the Japanese fans but most English language fans consider Kagatsuchi to be a mix of dragon, phoenix and whale (the last mostly due to it's vocalisations).

Well... ryusei was just a rough idea... I could still change that.
... I've actually got two issues with this, or at least points that would need explaining for nitpickers. The first is Ranma actually having an Element. You would need to explain how Ranma has one while Alyssa, who is technically a more advanced form of artificial HiME doesn't and needs Miyu to defend her from direct attacks by other HiME.
Second is the form. For one thing I thought that the staves stayed at Phoenix Mountain waiting for the time when Saffron needs them again. Secondly the Elements are supposed to be based on the HiME's own soul/personality and using a pre-existing item seems a bit of a copout. (Though I suppose toy could explain both away by having the staves imprint their forms since as his powers started to awaken and making it clear that they're not actually the Gekkaja and Kinjakan).

Here's the thing... Alyssa's not a more advanced form of HiME. More will be explained in the fic, but let's just say this had something to do with combining Jusenkyo, the experimentation and the HiME star to create something completely new.
As for the two staves... They did stay at Jusendo after the battle with Saffron, but you know as well as I do that HiME can summon their Element, and that's exactly what Ranma does, much in the same way that Miikoto summons the sword Element that is linked to Miroku.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:36 am
by Knight of L-sama
Sailor Sedai (Ellf) wrote:Here's the thing... Alyssa's not a more advanced form of HiME. More will be explained in the fic, but let's just say this had something to do with combining Jusenkyo, the experimentation and the HiME star to create something completely new.

As long as there is an actual explanation that's all right then.
Sailor Sedai (Ellf) wrote:As for the two staves... They did stay at Jusendo after the battle with Saffron, but you know as well as I do that HiME can summon their Element, and that's exactly what Ranma does, much in the same way that Miikoto summons the sword Element that is linked to Miroku.

Mikoto's the only one shown able to do that and neither her Element nor her Child are exactly normal given their connection to the Obsididan Lord. For one thing Mikoto doesn't seem to be able to dematerialise her Element like all the others.