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Postby Uldihaa » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:46 pm

Comartemis wrote:Fresh from ANN: Genon's handed Nanoha off to FUNimation along with several other of their titles. Guess the license won't go down with the ship.


Yeah, I saw that too :D FUNi got quite a few of the titles ADV was going to release too. Looks like the American side of anime distrabution is going through quite the shake-up. Though I've felt for years that ADV might have taken a 'bite bigger than they could chew'.
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Postby LiliandraNadiar » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:10 am

FUNimation? Ugh... Oh well, better then nothing I guess.

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Postby Uldihaa » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:28 am

Hehe, looky what I found on another forum.

Lyrical Nanoha A's manga


StrikerS manga


And damn, Nanoha really worked her butt off training between the first and second season :shock: . I'd read descriptions of her training, but to actually see it left me a little shocked.

I do think there is a slight continuity problem though. It shows Suzuka as below average in math, but isn't she the one that wants to be an engineer? I'm pretty sure that solid math skills are needed for something like that...

And yeah, Nanoha and Fate are just friends... :roll: Really...

I've also found a totally new level of contempt for Gil Graham...according to the A's manga, only 400 pages were needed to make Hayate the Book's true master (i.e. make her administrator). That's 266 pages less than the Book needed to fully activate. If Graham had just approached Hayate, or had someone else do so, they could have avoided the whole mess. Just asking for volunteers to help with the pages would have allowed a controlled situation (and since the damage to the Linker Cores are implied to be only temporary...).
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Postby Comartemis » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:44 am

*BlinkBlink*

Shoot, I forgot to post those. I've known about that site for a few months now, it just didn't occur to me to post the links.

Yeah, Nanoha's a glutton for punishment, at least when it comes to training.

As for Suzuka wanting to be an engineer but not being good in math... well, there's nothing very strange about that. I wanted to be a video game designer for a long time even though I had zilch experience with programming and sucktastic artistic ability.
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Postby Uldihaa » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:48 am

Comartemis wrote:As for Suzuka wanting to be an engineer but not being good in math... well, there's nothing very strange about that. I wanted to be a video game designer for a long time even though I had zilch experience with programming and sucktastic artistic ability.


Thought I read somewhere that she was actually a pretty good engineer for her age, but maybe I'm mis-remembering.
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Postby Comartemis » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:59 am

Could be, I don't remember that particular exchange. Might've been said during a conversation with Hayate in A's, but I dunno...

More interesting is the fact that this could potentially free up Suzuka's future in a fanfic. If she's not very good as an engineer, she might realistically abandon that desire in favor of something else... such as developing her latent magical abilities.

I actually have her and Arisa doing this in a Negima crossover I'm working on. Most likely, Suzuka and Arisa will become Terran mages like Negi or Eva rather than Mid or Belkan mages... but this isn't the thread to elaborate on those plans. If anyone's interested, I'll post what I've come up with so far in the Ideas forum.
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Postby Queensarrow » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:53 am

Why do I find interesting topics after every one has moved on?
Anyway my two cents...

"The anime never addresses exactly how damage is done. Okkam's razor
states that unless we have strong evidence we should assume it's just
normal damage, IE: Kinetic force moving at high velocity. "

Not 'kinetic force', 'magic force'. As for strong evidence They state
several times in the course of the anime that they (TSAB) chose to deal
magic damage. By that I think they mean that they attack their opponents
magic energy rather than dealing physical damage by magic.
Also TSAB = Police force, not military. Police generally use same the
ranks as military. The TSAB, I think, is a military turned police
organization as they are geared to capture enemies rather than killing
them and have "generals" and "admirals", ranks that don't usually appear
in police ranks.


"when Signum fights Fate the second time in A's episode 5, she states
that she cannot guarantee that Fate's life. Meaning, she isn't sure
whether or not Fate will survive."

Signum is a belkan type knight and thus was using mostly physical
attacks, with physical attacks you can't guarantee safety as well as you
can with magic. Especially since your opponent is actively defending
herself.


"But in the first episode of season two Nanoha gets knocked off a
building before she puts her barrier jacket up; yet she experienced no
damage whatsoever."

She experienced damage, she was clutching one of her hands as she fell
and there was visible damage to that hand. That she had two shields up,
one to block Vita's Swallow Flier(note: this is a physical shot) and one
to block Graff Eisen, prevented even more damage.


In StrikerS they state that mass(matter?) based weapons were banned
because after they were made even a child could use them. I take this to
mean weapons like guns and bombs. Physical weapons like swords, axes and
staffs need a certain amount of strength or skill to use, most children
would not have either.


Professional Magical Girls

As far as Nanoha's professionalism goes, I think her family had a lot to
do with that, seeing as how they were all in the bodyguarding business
and all. Her father was almost killed in action and during the recovery
time Nanoha was mostly left to herself. Even after he returned to the
family she still felt like the odd woman out, her older siblings drew
together as did her parents while Nanoha had no one. This is why she
kept her problems to herself and had everyone worried when she first
lost to Fate. Later she learned to rely on Yuuno, Fate, then Hayate.

Fate was trained almost since birth in magic and its use. Joining up
with Nanoha and the TSAB only redirected the aims she put that magic to
use.

As far as Hayate is concerned I assume that she had status simular to an
emancipated minor, which means she had a highly developed sense of
responsibility, as evidenced by trying to make up for what her
knights(family) did. Her knights admitted that they went against orders
to collect the pages and Chrono agreed that Hayate had little to do with
the damage to the mages linker cores. In fact Chrono told Gil that
Hayate was herself a victim of the Book of Darkness.







hmmm as a side note Alhazred, the city/world/universe that was destroyed
by it's own Magic/technology is simular to the name of the "Mad Arab"
Abdul Alhazred, a character mentioned in the story "the Nameless City"
by H.P. Lovecraft. Though I could be wrong, I think people give the
nameless city the name 'Alhazred' because of the "Mad Arab"
who dreamed of the city.
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Postby Comartemis » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:49 am

Why do I find interesting topics after every one has moved on?

Not everyone, we just seem to have run out of things to talk about for the moment.

The TSAB, I think, is a military turned police organization as they are geared to capture enemies rather than killing them and have "generals" and "admirals", ranks that don't usually appear in police ranks.

Added to this is the fact that we only really see how the TSA operates on their capital planet. For all we know, the military-esque Ground and Air Forces are confined to defensive operations on Mid-Childa and the other Core planets of the TSA, and most of the interdimensional police work goes to the Main Branch. Just a pet theory of mine that will most likely be either confirmed or denied in Season 4.
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Postby Neko- » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:41 am

Still keeping tabs on this thread :) If not for the announcements on a new season, then atleast for the interesting stuff it produces :D
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Postby Uldihaa » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:17 pm

This scene here just makes me laugh out loud. A big part being that's it's supposed to be just a friendly spar :lol: .
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Postby Comartemis » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:51 pm

My fellow Nanoha fans, it gives me no small amount of joy to be able to relay an announcement from Megami Magazine concerning our favorite series:

[url=http://www.moetron.com/2008/07/28/「nanoha-the-movie-1st」-announced/#more-1100]"Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha: The MOVIE 1st"[/url]

You may commence squealing like a hoard of fangirls.
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Postby Uldihaa » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:58 pm

I'll wait until I can see more of it before getting too excited. Still, a movie would be nice and it looks like it's going back to the first season. If it's like most anime movies based on a TV series, it'll be different enough to spark debates in forums :lol: .
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Postby Comartemis » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:08 pm

Word on the AS Nanoha threads has this being a re-imagining of the first season, an alternate take of sorts. If you look closely at the pics posted on Moetron, particularly the sketches near the bottom of the page, you'll notice that RH and Bardiche have gotten a slight makeover for their first movie appearance (and notice the "1st" in the movie title. Think they've got plans for A's and StrikerS movies coming down the pipe?). Bardiche is supposed to have a female VA, as well.

Personally, I'm already absolutely ecstatic about this. We've already seen what 7Arcs could do with this series when they had next to nothing on their budget, but with StrikerS bringing in the dough like nobody's business they can go back to start and go hog wild making the movie as good as it can possibly get... possibly even better than the original series.
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Postby Uldihaa » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:21 pm

Hmmm, yeah I can see that. Bardiche looks a lot more like an axe now that it's curved, and it seems Raising Heart has gotten some kinda fin-like projection between the cylinders on the back; the far bottom end of the staff has gotten changed too, both in color and design...looks more mecha-like now.

Nanoha's Barrier Jacket has been changed too. She's got the black fingerless gloves and the more metallic and rigid sleeve cuffs from A's and StikerS. I don't notice any major changes in Fate's though...but I might be missing it :P .
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Postby Knight of L-sama » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:33 pm

Comartemis wrote:Bardiche is supposed to have a female VA, as well.


Aww! I like Bardiche's voice. He's so hammy in an understated way.

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