Fanfiction things/events contridicted by manga

[agramahad]

What I really can’t believe is that you’ve somehow missed this one, the biggest contradiction of them all.
At least I certainly think so.
In nearly every piece of fan fiction there is the assumption that Ranma swore an oath to Ryoga to never reveal his curse to Akane.
Now don’t get me wrong he did…
Sort of.
What he actually said is...
“Don’t worry Ryoga. I’ll keep your secret – it’s the warriors code!”
That is on the 1st box on page 20, volume 2 of the Viz publication
However, it was something he thought. He NEVER said it outloud. And he certainly never said it in front of Ryoga. He thought Bess, the neighbours dog, was Ryoga at this point.
Shortly after in the 3rd box on page 39, volume 2 of the Viz publication Ranma is sneaking into Akane’s room to remove ‘P-chan’ and he says.
“If you don’t want to be exposed right here… Don’t make a sound!”
Somehow I don’t think Ranma was bluffing when he said this which seems to indicate, at least to me, that he already disregarded the silent promise he already made regarding Ryoga’s alternate form. Seeing that Ranma made several attempts in the future to tell Akane that Ryoga was ‘P-chan’ is further proof of this fact. The only reason Akane never found this out in the story was that Ryoga always shut Ranma up before anything could be said. Either by Ryoga choking him, knocking him out or punching him into the distance.
My point is that I’m sick of stories where Ryoga attacks Ranma for breaking this oath. Ryoga NEVER KNEW ABOUT IT. And shortly after Ranma discovered Ryoga’s true cursed form he disregarded it too. This may be speculation on my part but what is said certainly backs it up.
Also please don’t think me a ‘Ryoga Lover’ I think that he is the most dishonourable B****** in the entire series. Yes, to me he even beats Happosai. At least little old Happi is honest about his perversion.
Yeah Ranma is shown in a worse light because of this but initially the reason Ranma never told her, and I'm only guessing here, is that Akane pissed him off by taking Ryoga’s side in that first encounter. After that, who knows his reasons for keeping it a secret. I certainly cant, at least not one that fits in with Japanese culture and their characters. I’m not sure even the great Takahashi could come up with a plausible reason and still keep Ranma the honourable and good natured person he truly is.
Discuss….

[Tovath]

“If you don’t want to be exposed right here… Don’t make a sound!”

Ranma could have meant Akane will wake up and we'll both be in troble

[agramahad]

Could be.
But seeing as in the picture Ranma was holding a kettle. And also because of the way he was holding it, he seemed to be pointing it out to Ryoga, makes me think otherwise.

[Zwzn]

Could be.
But seeing as in the picture Ranma was holding a kettle. And also because of the way he was holding it, he seemed to be pointing it out to Ryoga, makes me think otherwise.

It appears to be a bluff to me. Ranma at any after that Ranma could have revealed P-chan=Ryoga, but Ranma never did. Ranma seems to tend to keep the promises he makes.

[froop]

That may be true but Ryoga never knew about the promise. So I guess all the fics that have Ryoga trying to kill Ranma for breaking it are a contradiction of canon.

[Tovath]

just because Ranma was talking to the dog doesn't mean Pchan didn't overhear or Ranma could meanshion it later like 'damn it I wish I nevr made that promise.'

[froop]

Akane and P-chan entered after Ranma was done. I see no evidence in canon that lends any credence to Ryoga knowing about the promise Ranma made to the dog.

[antimatterenergy]

If Ranma is trying to keep from telling Akane about P-chan in the manga he isn't trying very hard at all. Ranma has put Ryoga in situations that Akane Should have figured it out along time ago. Calling Ryoga P-chan several times 9think he called P-chan Ryoga once as well and Akane said something like I don't see Ryoga anywhere), showing Akane that Ryoga has an adversion to water, and even manipulating events in ways that Akane should figure out such as when pretending to be Ryoga's maid Ranma told Ryoga that Akane wanted Ryoga to join her in the bath then waxed the floor and splashed Ryoga so P-chan would fly into the bathroom. I also think that Ranma was going to tell her straight up at least once that Ryoga was P-chan but was interupted by P-chan attacking her (Ranma was female at the time if I remember correctly) and then Akane blamed Ranma for picking on P-chan.

[mondu_the_fat]

There have been multiple instances that it would have been in Ranma's best interest to plainly inform or flat out reveal Ryoga's cursed form. Like Ranma's secret being known, it is never shown in the manga that he talks to any of his friends about it. Does this mean that it is fanon that Ranma reveals his cursed form to everyone? Or those this mean that people figured it out?
Ryoga will conspire with Ranma at keeping his pig form from Akane. For example, when Ranma is bringing home the eel. Ryoga was keeping perfectly still over the fountain (no, I won't buy it if anyone says its because he can't move -- maybe he can't move, but he isn't trying to get away, either). Another instance is the cave of breaking up, where Ranma keeps Ryoga in his bag and Ryoga keeping quiet. Or how about when Ryoga rescued Akane from drowning before Shampoo's introduction. The three of them were there, Akane comments something, Ryoga knows it would have been in Ranma's best interest to reveal his secret, Ranma doesn't... What is Ryoga thinking at that point? "Ranma is so stupid he won't reveal my secret" or "Thank you Ranma for not revealing my secret?" Or how abou Happosai's sleeping point attack on Akane? Ranma flat out asks Ryoga is "she always sleeps like that". Ryoga answers "this is much calmer than usual." This kind of conversation is clearly between co-conspirators.
The only time Ryoga won't conspire with Ranma is when his temper has been aroused. For example, that first night. Ranma, threatening to reveal Ryoga with a kettle of hot water, ticks Ryoga off and they fight.
Just because you never see in the manga that Ranma talks to Ryoga about keeping his secret from Akane, it doesn't mean Ryoga doesn't know about it. Ryoga most certainly does, and its a secret they share. Ranma may drop hints, but in almost every instance its to annoy Ryoga and/or Akane.
Ranma's motivation? Pretty commonplace in real life.
Take couple A and B, and friend C, who'se friends to both.
B is having an affair, which C knows about.
Why doesn't C tell A? Some would, both those that don't don't because he will feel akward in telling A. At times it will even come to the point that C will help keep B's secret. It is, after all, just an affair, and if it ends before A finds out, then they can go on with their lives with no one being hurt.

[WG_Writer]

I run by the Axiom, if it wasn't seen, it didn't happen. But that works both ways in this case, We didn't see Ryoga being given the promise, nor did we see Ranma state he made no such promise, nor evidence that Ranma denied its existance.
Knowing Ranma, imo, he would keep the promise, but just not tell Ryoga, Without Ryoga knowing, is a knife over his head, only Ranma has no intention of using it... Anything Goes...

[antimatterenergy]

Does this mean that it is fanon that Ranma reveals his cursed form to everyone?

I'd say that it is fanon since we've never seen Ranma tell anyone about his curse. (Ranma doesn't tell anyone about himself if he can avoid doing so and whenever he has to he generally has someone else tell - Genma usually but Ukyo and Akane have as well) He didn't even tell Ukyo about his curse Akane ended up doing that then Ukyo kept splashing Ranma with hot and cold water to see the change. Ranma also did not tell the sick perverted kid, hot spring owner, etc... (even commented that he wasn't going to tell them and hoped that they hadn't seen it). Though Ranma also doesn't really try to hide his curse either.
Ryoga kept perfectly still over the fountain because he didn't want to chance falling in and Akane finding out about his curse (probably thought if he tried to get away he'd end up in the water). In other situations Ryoga goes along with Ranma hoping Ranma won't tell.
Personally I think Ryoga has no idea as to why Ranma doesn't just tell her and has these types of thoughts: Why didn't Ranma tell her? How does it benefit Ranma not to tell her? Ranma's probably planning to use this against me some how but how? Ranma enjoys torturing me sometimes he helps me hide my curse and other times he puts me in situations in which Akane might find out.
As for Ranma's reasons. I don't know but he did try to tell her (got interrupted and blamed for picking on P-chan), tried to remove P-chan from her (got called a pervert and hit), gave her clues (she didn't figure it out), Put Ryoga in situations Akane should have figured out, Knows that others know and don't tell (knows Genma and Shampoo knows), etc...

[Sheylenna]

I have one ^ . ^
The Phoenix Pill
Fanon:
Ranma has increased resistance to heat.
Manga:
Ranma was quite burned by Ukyo's Challenge ring. Also in the Ultimate Weakness Moxibustion Arc Ukyo COOKS Ranma (and Ranma does get burned) when she finds him in the garbage can after Ryoga hits him there after he saves Ranma from the 4 weirdo's who were attacking him.

[Seed00]

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[Neko-]

Seed00 - Mind the rules of the forum, specifically rule G!
Double/Nested quotes are not allowed! Before one of the higher-ups bashes you for it , I guess I'd give you a heads up on that...

[Goldarmy]

I think I have one.
Fanon:
Musk and Amazons are aware of each other and are in a coldwar/hot war/peace.
Manga:
Even Cologne thought Musk has vanished a long time ago. And new generation aren't aware of them as seen in Mousse and Shampoo's unrecognition.
Though if they were aware relationships would have been tense, as a warrior patriarchial society and a warrior matriarchial society doesn't sort out their differences with a tea party.