Ranma/Akane's Marriage: how long do you think it would last?

[Kyoumen]

We are shown time and again that what is shown to happen is happening from the very first story. Akane/Ukyo/Shampoo/Kodachi hitting Ranma is no different from Chichi breaking a frying pan over Goku's head, or Bulma pulling out a gun and shooting Goku.

I agree; it's exactly like that; harmless slapstick violence done to someone it can't particularly hurt. Bulma never machine-gunned a random innocent civilian to death.

Kasumi and Nabiki truly feared Akane had killed Ranma with the dinning room table. I would not be surprised if Akane in one of her bad moods badly hurt or killed people in the past. It's not like Akane hasn't tried to snap Ranma's neck for the horrible crime of trying to be friendly, and cheer her up.

Kasumi and Nabiki did not actually think Akane had murdered anybody. Really. And I would be very surprised, since she has never actually done this, despite having ample opportunity and motive against many people. Akane would be horrified if she had ever permanently injured anyone, would develop a complex about it, and very likely would give up on fighting entirely. Also, she would obviously be treated differently by those around her if she had - for instance, I doubt she'd have been being attacked every morning by people other than Kunou.

I would love to know where you got the idea Ranma has a habit of greeting people by jumping on their heads. The only person I can think of that being done to is Ryoga, and only once or twice.

He actually does it to Ryouga several times in the manga, including the very first time they met (so, before he knew Ryouga was superhumanly resilient). He's also done it to Kunou, and possibly others. Doing this in real life would kill people. Rather more certainly than hitting them with a dining table. Ranma and the other boys also do all sorts of comedy violence which is comparable to anything Akane does. So do the three other "main" girls. Why single hers out?

Ranma has never really done anything for Akane that he has not done for perfect strangers, or people he does not like.

Ranma has confessed love to Akane and been willing to die for her without hesitation, neither of which are things he's done for anyone else (he was also willing to kiss her, has repeatedly been willing to marry her, and so on and so forth). Really, even if you don't think he should love Akane, you're wading against absolute mountains of evidence (and his own statements) to try to say he doesn't.

Ranma can give a detailed explanation as to what he is doing and why, provide hard evidence, and Akane will not believe him. The girl is paranoid and delusional.

Ranma rarely if ever does this. Akane is neither paranoid nor delusional, though she is insecure (something Ranma gleefully and repeatedly encourages by teasing her) and quick to lash out when she's angry (albeit only on safe targets). I think you're letting a dislike of the character colour your views here.

[Zwzn]

I agree; it's exactly like that; harmless slapstick violence done to someone it can't particularly hurt. Bulma never machine-gunned a random innocent civilian to death.

But it is really happening. Ranma is really being thrown through gym roofs, and knocked unconscious by Akane. She is truly trying to snap his neck when angry.

Kasumi and Nabiki did not actually think Akane had murdered anybody. Really. And I would be very surprised, since she has never actually done this, despite having ample opportunity and motive against many people. Akane would be horrified if she had ever permanently injured anyone, would develop a complex about it, and very likely would give up on fighting entirely. Also, she would obviously be treated differently by those around her if she had - for instance, I doubt she'd have been being attacked every morning by people other than Kunou.

Kasumi and Nabiki sat next to Ranma until he woke from the table to the head. That shows they were worried Ranma was at the very least badly hurt. Going by the scene it likely was not the first time Akane had attacked visitors.

We know Akane does not think about what damage her actions might do to something, or someone when angry. She nearly hurt/killed Nabiki by hitting a balcony they had been standing on to hard when angry.

He actually does it to Ryouga several times in the manga, including the very first time they met (so, before he knew Ryouga was superhumanly resilient). He's also done it to Kunou, and possibly others. Doing this in real life would kill people. Rather more certainly than hitting them with a dining table.

We never see how Ranma and Ryoga first met.

What makes you think Ranma did not have a very good idea of what Ryoga could take? Ryoga is clearly the only other martial artist shown to go to the school they went to.

So Ranma only does it to people who 1) are really annoying to him, and 2) he knows can take it, and this ignores the likely hood that he is using a special technique to not hurt anyone. On top of that you are assuming a rarely seen behavior is standard when we know it is not.

Ranma and the other boys also do all sorts of comedy violence which is comparable to anything Akane does. So do the three other "main" girls. Why single hers out?

Akane is being singled out because this thread is about Ranma, Akane, and what would happen if they got married. What any character does save Ranma and Akane has no place in this thread. If you want to talk about them then start a new thread.

Ranma has confessed love to Akane

When he thought she was dead. It means nothing. In situations like that people often say things they don't mean.

and been willing to die for her without hesitation, neither of which are things he's done for anyone else

Ranma risks his life a lot in the series for a number of people like for example the guides daughter plum..

Facing the ghost cat to rescue Shampoo was a much harder thing for him to do.

(he was also willing to kiss her,

Is he? He seems to freeze up every time, and he was getting just as close with Shampoo.

has repeatedly been willing to marry her,

Repeatedly?

There was the time he thought Akane was stuck as a duck, and was going to do it because he felt sorry for her.

During the failed wedding it was very clear he did not want to marry her.

Really, even if you don't think he should love Akane, you're wading against absolute mountains of evidence (and his own statements) to try to say he doesn't.

You should really make a thread where you list this mountain of evidence because I really can't think of any proof, and this thread is not the place to argue such things.

Ranma rarely if ever does this.

But he does did, and it doesn't matter.

Akane is neither paranoid nor delusional,

She edits what she sees and hears to fit her preconceived world view. The girl who believes with all her heart and soul that just because she has a minor cold Ranma will rape her. At the very least she is messed up in the head in a big way.

though she is insecure (something Ranma gleefully and repeatedly encourages by teasing her)

I would really like to see your examples given Ranma is shown to bend over backwards figuratively speaking to not insult her(not that it matters).

and quick to lash out when she's angry (albeit only on safe targets).

Actually she doesn't bother to check as seen just before the engagement is switched to Nabiki, and sucks at judging people's skill and power levels as seen in Ranma's intro, and Ranma's first meeting with Tatewaki. She had no idea that Ranma would servive the table to the head.

I think you're letting a dislike of the character colour your views here.

Why assume I have some sort of special dislike of Akane?

[camk4evr]

We never see how Ranma and Ryoga first met.

Ryoga's introductionary story, during the flashback where Ranma beats Ryoga to the last bread of the day by bouncing off of Ryoga's head. Ryoga asks Ranma's name.

Back On Topic:

I believe that the two of them, should they get married, would probably stay married for the rest of their lives (which may not be that long considering their rivals/enemies and Akane's cooking^_^). Mind you my reasoning is partly due to my romantic soul (which is surprising, really, when you consider the sheer number of divorced people I, personally, know) and I've heard that arranged marriages tend to end less often in divorce than 'love' marriages.

Also, I would like to add, that I don't believe that Ranma and Akane are in love by the end of the manga. I do, however, believe that, by the time it ends, they are falling in love.

[Kyoumen]

Mmm, I agree this is getting a bit off-topic, so I'll just do a few factual corrections and leave it at that.

1) The balcony Akane hit broke because it needed to be repaired anyway and was unsafe, not because she "doesn't know her own strength". This is stated in-story, along with the fact that Akane didn't know this.

2) Of course we see how Ranma and Ryouga first met - the flashback is in Ryouga's introduction story. Ranma bounced off Ryouga's head and took the piece of bread Ryouga was trying to get at the lunch line in school. That was their first meeting, since Ryouga had to ask Ranma's name. You cannot excuse Ranma for jumping on the head of a completely random person he'd never met, and in the same breath argue that Akane thought she would kill Ranma for hitting him on the back of the head with a table after she had already had a martial arts sparring match with him. You might as well argue that by sparring with Ranma, Akane was trying to kill him - after all, her punches (which can smash a concrete wall to pieces) are demonstrably far more lethal than hitting somebody with a table.

3) He was willing to kiss her in the climax of the Romeo and Juliet story (Akane had tape to block it, but Ranma didn't know this at the time).

4) Akane's had no problem being alone and vulnerable around Ranma many times; it was actually Kasumi (!) who brought up that Ranma was an uncontrollable animal of lust (and offered a mallet to Akane to smash his head in with). Akane protested the conclusion (nervously).

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

But it is really happening. Ranma is really being thrown through gym roofs, and knocked unconscious by Akane. She is truly trying to snap his neck when angry.

And Bulma is really shooting Goku with real bullets. Have you never heard of "comedic exaggeration"?

Kasumi and Nabiki sat next to Ranma until he woke from the table to the head. That shows they were worried Ranma was at the very least badly hurt. Going by the scene it likely was not the first time Akane had attacked visitors.

Fearing that someone is hurt is not the same as fearing someone was killed. Otherwise they might have thought of calling an ambulance.
And just because they care for the one who got hit by a table, doesn't mean it's happened before.

We know Akane does not think about what damage her actions might do to something, or someone when angry. She nearly hurt/killed Nabiki by hitting a balcony they had been standing on to hard when angry.

She nearly hurt her indirectly by accidentally destroying an already damaged balcony. You're reaching. And Ranma destroyed a boat by hitting it when they tried to travel to Jusenkyo in the last story. Ryoga hits and destroys things all the time.

We never see how Ranma and Ryoga first met.

Oh yes, we do. Remeber how Ryoga told everyone how the bread feud started?

What makes you think Ranma did not have a very good idea of what Ryoga could take? Ryoga is clearly the only other martial artist shown to go to the school they went to.

And how should he know that there is another martial artist in the school he went to? Does he have a supernatural "martial artist sense"?

So Ranma only does it to people who 1) are really annoying to him, and 2) he knows can take it, and this ignores the likely hood that he is using a special technique to not hurt anyone.

He didn't know Ryoga could take it. It's more likely that he uses some special technique to hurt nobody when he does this.

On top of that you are assuming a rarely seen behavior is standard when we know it is not.

He accidentally knocked out Ms. Hinomiya by jumping on her head when she first arrived at school. From how everyone acts it's not the first time something like that happens.

When he thought she was dead. It means nothing. In situations like that people often say things they don't mean.

Or they confess the things they tried to keep hidden.

During the failed wedding it was very clear he did not want to marry her.

You must have read a different story.

You should really make a thread where you list this mountain of evidence because I really can't think of any proof, and this thread is not the place to argue such things.

Let's just mentions all the times he is on his own and trying to figure out what he thinks of her

She edits what she sees and hears to fit her preconceived world view. The girl who believes with all her heart and soul that just because she has a minor cold Ranma will rape her. At the very least she is messed up in the head in a big way.

She does this after Kasumi gave her weapon to defend herself just in case, watched a drama about a rape and was suddenly grabbed by Ranma. He only hugged her, but understandably that didn't make a difference in her mind.

I would really like to see your examples given Ranma is shown to bend over backwards figuratively speaking to not insult her(not that it matters).

Calling her a tomboy, a klutz, etc.

Actually she doesn't bother to check as seen just before the engagement is switched to Nabiki,

see above, she didn't know the balcony was damaged

and sucks at judging people's skill and power levels as seen in Ranma's intro, and Ranma's first meeting with Tatewaki.

She had just met Ranma the day before and they only had one short spar where Ranma held back; she had several fights with Tatewaki and knows he is better than what she had seen of Ranma's ability.

She had no idea that Ranma would servive the table to the head.

Or she did, since she did it to punish him and not kill him.

Why assume I have some sort of special dislike of Akane?

Because you don't recognize comedic exaggeration when it hits you in the head with a wooden mallet and because you think that Akane has killed people.

[Zwzn]

The truth is I don't think Ranma will marry any of the girls he is engaged to for two very simple reasons.

1) He just doesn't want to marry any of the girls he is engaged to.

2) He can't marry anyone at least two girls give up

3) He does not care about for filling any of the deals Genma made in his name.

1) The balcony Akane hit broke because it needed to be repaired anyway and was unsafe, not because she "doesn't know her own strength". This is stated in-story, along with the fact that Akane didn't know this.

The balcony needed work, but was not in any danger of falling on it's own, and was more then sturdy enough to hold the weight of three teens. Do you really think Soun would not tell his daughters if something needed work like a balcony?

Akane has a pattern of reckless and dangerous behavior when angry starting from volume one on, and for what ever reason she doesn't seem to worry abut if the person she attacked in anger is going to be alright.

2) Of course we see how Ranma and Ryouga first met - the flashback is in Ryouga's introduction story. Ranma bounced off Ryouga's head and took the piece of bread Ryouga was trying to get at the lunch line in school. That was their first meeting, since Ryouga had to ask Ranma's name. You cannot excuse Ranma for jumping on the head of a completely random person he'd never met, and in the same breath argue that Akane thought she would kill Ranma for hitting him on the back of the head with a table after she had already had a martial arts sparring match with him. You might as well argue that by sparring with Ranma, Akane was trying to kill him - after all, her punches (which can smash a concrete wall to pieces) are demonstrably far more lethal than hitting somebody with a table.

All this proves is that Ryoga did not know Ranma's name at the time.
The only person I recall being kicked, stepped on, and so on in those flashbacks was Ryoga. I doubt it was random from the start.

There is a big difference between loosing your temper, and attacking someone, and doing something that is only annoying in a controlled fashion.

Akane looses her temper, and does things like hit people with tables thinking they are weaker, and less skilled then she is. She got angry, and thought going all out would let her land a punch, but had no idea what it would do to Ranma. She didn't know Ranma would not die from the table to the head. She is also never shown to worry about others when she hurts them.

Ranma is shown time and again being very careful not to hurt people, or break things. We know this because we have seen him just not care if he does break things.

3) He was willing to kiss her in the climax of the Romeo and Juliet story (Akane had tape to block it, but Ranma didn't know this at the time).

He was also willing to kiss Shampoo when he had to., but like with Akane when he is alone with her he freezes up.

4) Akane's had no problem being alone and vulnerable around Ranma many times; it was actually Kasumi (!) who brought up that Ranma was an uncontrollable animal of lust (and offered a mallet to Akane to smash his head in with). Akane protested the conclusion (nervously).

Clearly Akane had a problem with being alone with Ranma, and males her age in general, or what Kasumi said would not have had any impact. Akane was scared that Ranma would take advantage of her weakened state to the point of what looks like trying to kill him.

Don't get me wrong, post Saffron Akane wants to marry Ranma

Don't act so surprised Kasumi did something nasty. She isn't really a very nice person when you look careful at what she says and does..

[Zwzn]

And Bulma is really shooting Goku with real bullets. Have you never heard of "comedic exaggeration"?

I would suggest you rewatch or reread the series. The first time Bulma meets Goku she panics, and puts a pistol round right between his eyes, and is shocked he is even alive. It is done to illustrate how tuff the characters are when compared to normal folk as much as it is done as a joke.

Fearing that someone is hurt is not the same as fearing someone was killed. Otherwise they might have thought of calling an ambulance

We don't know why an ambulance was not called. I would guess it would have something to do with Soun or Genma saying no.

They bothered to sit there until Ranma woke up denotes at least mild worry he was hurt badly.

And just because they care for the one who got hit by a table, doesn't mean it's happened before.

They act as if Akane hitting someone with a table has happened before. It's a "ho brother, not again" type reaction rather then a "did she just do what i think she did" reaction. They has sweat drops on their heads.

She nearly hurt her indirectly by accidentally destroying an already damaged balcony. You're reaching. And Ranma destroyed a boat by hitting it when they tried to travel to Jusenkyo in the last story. Ryoga hits and destroys things all the time.

It's part of a pattern of behavior, and the balcony was in useable condition, or Soun would have told them not to use it.

And how should he know that there is another martial artist in the school he went to? Does he have a supernatural "martial artist sense"?

Yes, but it is not necessarily a super human ability. In the real world you can get an idea of if someone has combat train of some sort by basically just watching how someone moves, how someone behaves, and how someone is built in the real world. In a series like Ranma 1/2 it would be taken to a mystical extreme. It's not like he can't sense people he can't see, or hear.

Ranma has to be careful or he will break stuff like Ryoga and Shampoo do..

He didn't know Ryoga could take it. It's more likely that he uses some special technique to hurt nobody when he does this.

We have no idea as to what Ranma knew of Ryoga at the time, but yes given the fact Ranma stands on people's heads, and they don't seem to have to deal with his weight it is likely.

He accidentally knocked out Ms. Hinomiya by jumping on her head when she first arrived at school. From how everyone acts it's not the first time something like that happens.

I don't recall any teacher, but Hinako being named in the manga.

Or they confess the things they tried to keep hidden.

It is at best unreliable, and I don't recall anything later to show it was the truth in the case of Ranma and Akane. Ranma is at "best" not sure how he feels.

You must have read a different story.

Considering he stormed up to her room angry, I doubt he wanted to marry her, and this ignores the pre-Saffron attempt where he purposely insults her so she sends him through the roof.

Let's just mentions all the times he is on his own and trying to figure out what he thinks of her

Either this is worded in a odd manner or I need sleep, but what are you trying to say?

Ranma is confused by Akane's really bad behavior, and how he feels about her at times he must want to marry her?

Last time I checked it was very possible to love someone, and not wish to have that person as a wife or husband.

She does this after Kasumi gave her weapon to defend herself just in case, watched a drama about a rape and was suddenly grabbed by Ranma. He only hugged her, but understandably that didn't make a difference in her mind.

I suggest you reread 15.01-15.03 (Viz)13.06-13.08 Kuno and the wishing sword. Akane is sure Tatewaki will attempt to rape Ranma, and it scares her half to death just thinking about it. The girl is really afraid that boys want to rape girls without any outside help.

Calling her a tomboy, a klutz, etc.

Context is importent you know, and it's not like Akane isn't worse to Ranma.

She had just met Ranma the day before and they only had one short spar where Ranma held back; she had several fights with Tatewaki and knows he is better than what she had seen of Ranma's ability.

She knows Ranma is better then she is in at least some ways like speed and agility, and likely as good as she is in every other way.

She knows he has been traveling in order to train in martial arts. That means he is very serious about martial arts.

She has never seen Tatewaki's true power and skill, and did not seem to realize everyone was letting her win.

What does she do? She says to Ranma that he will get hurt .Akane thinks she is better then Ranma even after he casually took her best everything she had.

Because you don't recognize comedic exaggeration when it hits you in the head with a wooden mallet and

I have no special dislike for Akane. My dislike is spread evenly to all the female characters in Ranma1/2 excluding Miss Hinako.

There are no exaggerations when it comes to the characters behaviors in Ranma1/2. They are very realistic, and if you add the super-human abilities everything makes sense. I'm happy you have not had to deal with the horror that is mental illness that you can't believe that real people can be like that.

If I assume what Akane does is not really happening then i must do the same for all the other characters, and all the actions the characters take, but then things start not making sense. The series makes the most sense if you just go with Ranma and company are just that super-human. If you don't then where does one draw the line? Is shampoo really trying to kill Ranma when she shows up? Is Ukyo really fighting Ranma in her intro? The series just makes the most sense if a slap is a slap, and a punch is a punch. The characters have all the abilities needed for what we see to be truly what is happening.

because you think that Akane has killed people.

It only makes sense given what we see in the series. Akane is mentally ill, and has super strength and speed. We have reason to believe she had attacked people before Ranma showed up after all

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

We don't know why an ambulance was not called. I would guess it would have something to do with Soun or Genma saying no.

And my guess, It's because they checked him up and were not worried about him. Why would Genma not care for his only child that he has trained for the last ten+ years?

They bothered to sit there until Ranma woke up denotes at least mild worry he was hurt badly.

Emphasis on "mild worry". Or it's because they wanted to talk with him.

They act as if Akane hitting someone with a table has happened before. It's a "ho brother, not again" type reaction rather then a "did she just do what i think she did" reaction. They has sweat drops on their heads.

Sweatdrops could also denote a "did she just do what i think she did" reaction. At best it's inconclusive.

It's part of a pattern of behavior

It's a pattern because you say it is one. Show a couple of examples of her attacks hurting innocent persons, then it's a pattern.

and the balcony was in useable condition, or Soun would have told them not to use it.

Soun heard it from Kasumi one second before they heard the crash outside.

Yes, but it is not necessarily a super human ability.In the real world you can get an idea of if someone has combat train of some sort by basically just watching how someone moves, how someone behaves, and how someone is built in the real world. In a series like Ranma 1/2 it would be taken to a mystical extreme. It's not like he can't sense people he can't see, or hear.

He has only ever sensed attacks coming at him. And he saw Ryoga for the first time in the cafeteria, after he jumped on his head.

I don't recall any teacher, but Hinako being named in the manga.

Ms. Hinako Ninomiya. Stupid typo.

It is at best unreliable, and I don't recall anything later to show it was the truth in the case of Ranma and Akane. Ranma is at "best" not sure how he feels.

And at worst he has no clue.

Considering he stormed up to her room angry, I doubt he wanted to marry her, and this ignores the pre-Saffron attempt where he purposely insults her so she sends him through the roof.

And it doesn't ignore how he thought that she looked very cute in the outfit when he sat down on the roof. Ranma is still unsure if he wants to marry her or not and what he feels towards her.

Either this is worded in a odd manner or I need sleep, but what are you trying to say?

There are lots of times when he is wondering what he thinks about Akane in a romantic sense.

Anyway, my point was that he doesn't wonder about his feelings towards the other girls.

I suggest you reread 15.01-15.03 (Viz)13.06-13.08 Kuno and the wishing sword. Akane is sure Tatewaki will attempt to rape Ranma, and it scares her half to death just thinking about it. The girl is really afraid that boys want to rape girls without any outside help.

Fearing the worst from Tatewaki is a healthy attitude. And the sword story was written after the hug story. She could have developed that fear of rape in the story.

Context is importent you know, and it's not like Akane isn't worse to Ranma.

Yeah, context is important. Which insult is worse? Calling a girl a tomboy or calling a guy a pervert? There are some girls and some guys who would take that in their stride or would feel complimented. Ranma and Akane are not one of those.
Either way, being insulted doesn't make it okay to insult someone in return. And an isult is an insult, proving my point that he doesn't bend over backwards to not insult her, as you said.

What does she do? She says to Ranma that he will get hurt .Akane thinks she is better then Ranma even after he casually took her best everything she had.

As I said, she doesn't know Ranma's true potential. They had a single friendly spar. That's really not enough to know someones's ability in a real fight.

I have no special dislike for Akane. My dislike is spread evenly to all the female characters in Ranma1/2 excluding Miss Hinako.

You single her out as someone who might have already killed innocent persons.

There are no exaggerations when it comes to the characters behaviors in Ranma1/2.

The violence is exaggerated. Watch some Warner Brothers cartoons, like Bugs Bunny, then you might understand.

because you think that Akane has killed people.

It only makes sense given what we see in the series. Akane is mentally ill, and has super strength and speed. We have reason to believe she had attacked people before Ranma showed up after all

It only makes sense to you. What reason have we to believe that she is mentally ill and has killed?

Because she has a temper? Mental hospitals would be full, if that was a mental illness.
Because she hits people? Comedic exaggeration. Everyone in the series should be dead twice over from the hits they receive.

And why isn't she in prison, if all the characters behaviour is supposed to make sense?

Edit to add:

It is done to illustrate how tuff the characters are when compared to normal folk as much as it is done as a joke.

And all the action (from jumping over rooftops to destroying mountains in a martial arts fight) in Ranma 1/2 is exaggerated to make it look ridiculous. Like Dragonballs it's a parody of serious anime and manga about superhumanly powerful martial artists.

[toushin]

the fact of the matter is ranma isn't perfect, but out of all the other charecters(besides kasumi and tofu) he is the most careful. the instances you were speaking of he was either hungry or not paying attention. as you seen in the otspring storyline when ranma is hungry he really loses focus on the world around him. in fact he didn't even realize he step on ryoga's head until it was brought to his attention.

while with hinako he was desperately trying to get to the school and she happened to be their. but also unlike unlike everyone else he is quick to try to make up for what he did. he pick up hinako and took her to the nurses office. whilwhen he accideently hit that kid he was horrified. while others like ryoga merely ignore what they do and walk away. for all we know that was the only time he steped on ryoga's head. ryoga was pissed that he kept geting the bread not that he kept stealing his bread.

as for the akane/ranma banter akane is usually the one that starts it there have been many instances where ranma has needlessly insulted akane but it is usually in retaliation to something she has said. for instance go back to the balcony instance. dont focus on akane hitting the balcony but what happened after the fact. ranma had just saved her sisters life and instead of being greatful he accused him of cheating on her.

when i first read ranma and started reading fanfics i did think akane could be a good couple but after reading the bitter end and jim bader fics i changed my opinion. thanks to the way he was raised ranma has sort of gotten use being used. he doesn't like it and gets really mad when it happens, but he doesn't go out to actively make sure it doesn't happen again. like a treatable disease you hate constintly taking pills but there is really nothing you can do. ranma will insult akane but when she hits him he does nothing to stop her. while akane doesn't trust him doesn't even try to trust him even when she knows for a fact he didn't do anything wrong. a relationship like that just can't work it's spatial abuse just waiting to happen. while ukyo and shampoo aren't really that much better i still think they would be better becuase at least theyt try, but they would grow up alot to make anything work

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

Don't be afraid of the shift key. It won't bite.

accused him of cheating on her.

No. She slapped him once and declared that she had enough of him. The translation by fans doesn't say anything about cheating, either.

but after reading the bitter end and jim bader fics i changed my opinion.

A fanfic is always an interpretation of the characters. This one was even written by someone who disliked Akane and shipped Ranma with Ukyo. Ukyo, who was so very nice and saintly, tried to help Ranma even though they weren't married, her life was ruined and she died when Akane lost it completely.

I could go and cite a couple of dozens futurefics where Ranma and Akane live happily ever after, there might even be one where Ukyo ends in a mental hospital.

Fanfics may have formed your opinion, but that's Jim Bader's mentally ill Akane, not Rumiko Takahashi's tomboy with a temper. Use the manga or the anime if you want to prove anything about anyone's character.

[toushin]

No. She slapped him once and declared that she had enough of him. The doesn't say anything about cheating, either.

she saw ranma holding nabiki after she realized her sister coudn't possibly survive a fall like that yet instead of thanking ranma she "She slapped him once and declared that she had enough of him" so unless she was so disgusted that ranma had the gal to let nibiki live i don't see your point.

Fanfics may have formed your opinion, but that's Jim Bader's mentally ill Akane, not Rumiko Takahashi's tomboy with a temper. Use the manga or the anime if you want to prove anything about anyone's character.

im sorry i didn't say it, but i thought the numerous usage of story arcs would be enough. i didn't mean to implie those two fics changed my opinion, but that the more i got into ranma after reading more fanfics seeing the anime and re-reading the manga my opinion changed.

those two fics just put the thought in my head.

[Kyoumen]

she saw ranma holding nabiki after she realized her sister coudn't possibly survive a fall like that yet

Would you care to prove that assertion? Since, you know, people in real life would easily survive a fall of that height in most circumstances.

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

Use the shift key, Luke... use the shift key...

she saw ranma holding nabiki after she realized her sister coudn't possibly survive a fall like that yet instead of thanking ranma she "She slapped him once and declared that she had enough of him" so unless she was so disgusted that ranma had the gal to let nibiki live i don't see your point.

You said she accused him of cheating with Nabiki right after the fall. You were wrong.

i didn't mean to implie those two fics changed my opinion,

Imply? You said

after reading the bitter end and jim bader fics i changed my opinion.

I don't think you know what "imply" means.

[toushin]

"oh nabiki she doesn't know how to break her fall"

the funny thing is ranma had complimented akane on her skills

" it couldn't be helped you're a normal defenseless girl unlike akane"

and he was generally worried when she didn't responed to him and her response was throw him away like old toy she didn't want. the funny thing was until he said that the only thing she looked good in was a gi he hadn't done anything wrong. which if you think about it all his life his only possestions were things her could carry own his back so he probably thought he was helping.

nabiki gave him a towel said it was an old wrag and that was it. but the moment ranma came in to the picture he suddenly he was in the wrong to.

kasumi is partially to blame to she went to ranma and started listing all these horrible qualities that akane has and then said but she's a girl. he even asked her why she was angry.

[Zwzn]

And my guess, It's because they checked him up and were not worried about him. Why would Genma not care for his only child that he has trained for the last ten+ years?

And that contradicts Nabiki, and Kasumi's actions.

It only makes sense that Genma who has a very good idea of what Ranma can take would not be worried, and that Soun would trust Genma's judgement.

Emphasis on "mild worry". Or it's because they wanted to talk with him.

Worried enough to stay by his side until he wakes up is what we see. We see this behavior many time in Ranma1/2.

Sweatdrops could also denote a "did she just do what i think she did" reaction. At best it's inconclusive.

No matter what it means that Akane doing things like hitting people when in raged is common. They do not show any sort of surprise.

It's a pattern because you say it is one. Show a couple of examples of her attacks hurting innocent persons, then it's a pattern.

It's a pattern because we see it again and again. Akanre gets angry, and lashes out at what is the source. We even see it in her cooking even. The failed wedding showed she has a hard time not lashing out when angry. Ranma trying to cheer her up when he finds out about her crush on Tofu, and she tries to snap his neck.

If Akane's behavior is not a pattern of get angry and hit something why does such a thing keep happening? Why do her own sisters say she is a violent maniac?

Akane has an extremely hard time controlling her self when angry, and that is a part of her character from beginning to end.

Soun heard it from Kasumi one second before they heard the crash outside.

Then Kasumi does not care about the safety of her sisters. If the balcony was really a danger there would have been clear evidence of that.

He has only ever sensed attacks coming at him. And he saw Ryoga for the first time in the cafeteria, after he jumped on his head.

No, Ranma notes Dr.Tofu is a highly skilled martial artist because the guy can sneak up on him. Ranma posed in every photo taken by Gosunkugi Hikaru in the Neko-ken arc even though Gos was out of sight. Ranma even knew exactly where he was hiding under the dojo, and no one else realize anyone was there. Ranma is extremely aware of his surrounds.

At worst Ranma reacted to what felt like an attack by a trained martial artist.

Ms. Hinako Ninomiya. Stupid typo.

And he was embarrassed to have landed on her, and was taking her to the principle after seeming to have checked her out. Hardly the actions of someone who commonly jumps on random people's heads.

And at worst he has no clue.

That's what I said. he is at best not sure how he feels.

And it doesn't ignore how he thought that she looked very cute in the outfit when he sat down on the roof. Ranma is still unsure if he wants to marry her or not and what he feels towards her.

He thinks Shampoo and Ukyo are cute as well. Thinking someone is pretty is not a sigh someone wants to marry that person.

There are lots of times when he is wondering what he thinks about Akane in a romantic sense.

Could you give some examples of what you mean please. One person's wondering in a romantic sense could easily be another person's WTF is wrong with her sense.

There is also a lot that happens when the "camera" is turned off.

Anyway, my point was that he doesn't wonder about his feelings towards the other girls.

He's very sure Shampoo is a cute girl, and nearly kisses her.

Fearing the worst from Tatewaki is a healthy attitude. And the sword story was written after the hug story. She could have developed that fear of rape in the story.

It's the way she says it that matters, and not a possible why.

Yeah, context is important. Which insult is worse? Calling a girl a tomboy or calling a guy a pervert? There are some girls and some guys who would take that in their stride or would feel complimented. Ranma and Akane are not one of those.
Either way, being insulted doesn't make it okay to insult someone in return. And an isult is an insult, proving my point that he doesn't bend over backwards to not insult her, as you said.

Akane has called him sick and twisted, accusing him of being a rapist, freak, pervert, told him to "Be a woman for the rest of your life and find a real man to marry" after slpashing him... She is one nasty bleep.

If you throw a punch at someone, you should expect to be hit back. Akane considers it okay when insult at times accidently, and by things that a normal person would not have taken as an insult with physical attacks, torture, and putting people in life threatening positions.

As I said, she doesn't know Ranma's true potential. They had a single friendly spar. That's really not enough to know someones's ability in a real fight.

During that "friendly" spar Akane went all out..

Later that evening she hit Ranma as hard as she could with the dinning room table in an attempt to bash in his skull from behind.

From those two events she knew Ranma was extremely harder to hurt, and far faster then she is, but she is sure Ranma will lose.

She had no idea until Ranma fought him that Tatewaki was holding back.

You single her out as someone who might have already killed innocent persons.

This thread is about Akane and Ranma getting married. I would not be surprised if Kodachi had murdered people as well given she tries to in canon.

Akane has an extremely hard time controlling her temper. Akane would lash out in a fit of rage at the thing that angered her.

Shampoo is a cold blooded killer, who planed to kill Akane, and blame Taro.

Ukyo while not much better is not likely to kill random people like the others.

It only makes sense to you. What reason have we to believe that she is mentally ill and has killed?

Because she has a temper? Mental hospitals would be full, if that was a mental illness.
Because she hits people? Comedic exaggeration. Everyone in the series should be dead twice over from the hits they receive.

And why isn't she in prison, if all the characters behaviour is supposed to make sense?

Akane has a hair trigger fuse, and has an extremely hard time controlling herself when angry. Edits what she sees and hears when faced with proof to fit her own delusions, and sees nothing wrong with her behavior.

Akane lives in normal society, with normal friends, in a mostly normal home. She scares her classmates at times.

And all the action (from jumping over rooftops to destroying mountains in a martial arts fight) in Ranma 1/2 is exaggerated to make it look ridiculous. Like Dragonballs it's a parody of serious anime and manga about superhumanly powerful martial artists.

No more so then Inuyasha.

The skills seen in Ranma1/2 are based on what legendary ninja and martial artists are said to have been able to do. There might be some jokes thrown in, but the fights are as serious as those "serious" anime and manga. Ranma1/2 is a very dark series.

I don't see where you are getting the idea that the events in DragonBall are not serious. Everything certainly took a serious tone by Z.