Jupiah wrote:Ryoga getting lost on every major continent in the world is another cliche. Yes, he _can_ cross the Sea of Japan without realizing it, but he's always limited his wanderings to Asia.
Kuno spouting poetry is a fairly common one. Especially Shakespeare. I'm not even sure where this one comes from. I can't remember him ever doing it in the manga.
Akane hitting Ranma for a dozen imagined slights a day is a really annoying one. She only hits him when he insults her or another girl glomps him. Her reactions may be overblown and aimed at the wrong target half the time, but she never just hits him out of the blue for no apparent reason.
Ukyo and Ryoga are the best of friends and will hook up with each other as soon as they give up on Ranma and Akane. Wrong. Ryoga and Ukyo only spend time together in the manga when planning to break up Ranma and Akane, and they never speak again after Ukyo's failed Tunnel of Lost Love plot. The tunnel apparantly worked as advertised when Ryoga and Ukyo exited together, and their friendship (if you can even call it that) ended on rather bad terms. This pairing has virtually no support in canon whatsoever.
lwf58 wrote:Not quite true. One time in the manga, he is shown with Russian onion-domes in the background, in a place that is reminiscent of Red Square. But that's the only time he's shown as having gone farther than various Japanese islands or China.
lwf58 wrote:He makes allusions to classical Japanese poetry. The Viz translation had him quoting Shakespeare in an attempt to make the habit comprehensible to folks in the western hemisphere. With his pretensions to being samurai, a knowledge of historic Japanese poetry would be required.
Necavit wrote:Oh and the whole Ranma killed a god by himself.
Last I checked he had quite a bit of help from Ryoga, Mousse and Akane.
He is a phoenix. A powerful mystical and legendary bird, but not a god.
Saffron's followers spoke of a royal family, of which Saffron is the last, so probably not.[/quote
Most myths/religions say there is only one phoenix in all of creation. This does make sense though since phoenix's do not procreate they clone themselves as they die (some animals like sharks can clone themselves as well -i.e. asexual reproduction).I'm pretty sure that cliches have to have some basis in fact
nope a cliche is just a story element that is overused it does not need to have any basis with the source material and things within the source material can be cliche as well. Like Akane being kidnapped that is both a cliche and in the source material (she does get kidnapped fairly often).
Another cliche in the source material is people being attracted to Ranma. Ranma in the manga has attracted girls to him (young and old), guys to him( of all but little kids ages), and spirits (like the panda ghost).She only hits him when he insults her or another girl glomps him. Her reactions may be overblown and aimed at the wrong target half the time, but she never just hits him out of the blue for no apparent reason.
Not true she has hit him for other reasons. For example in volume 34 she kicked him out of a window so that she can speak more privately (so he wouldn't over hear).Shampoo does talk stupidly yes, Takahashi knows why,
Ellen Kuhfeld wrote:To be fair about it, Akane does get kidnapped (or menaced) by foreign princes in the anime. That's the basic plot of both movies, and I think Herb and Saffron both count. (Not sure about Herb - haven't read that far, nor viewed that far.)
Jupiah wrote:Herb didn't kidnap Akane. Lime grabbed her and dragged her to the Nekohanten, where Herb told him to get rid of her because they didn't have time to waste, and he violently threw Akane at Ranma when Lime hesitated. No one tried to marry her in that arc, and she had almost no screen time at all after that scene.
Saffron only had Kiima kidnap her to use her to get the Kinjaken back from Ranma. He didn't care what happened to her after that, and he certainly didn't want to marry her.
The only other person to kidnap Akane was Pantyhose Taro. He wanted to trade her to get the Jusenkyo guide book back, not marry her.
Only in the anime do foreign princes fall in love with Akane at first sight, kidnap her, and try to force her to marry them. It's the most idiotic cliche I've ever seen, and I hate the anime for starting it.
Akane's only been kidnapped twice in the manga, and it was never for romantic reasons. She was only ever kidnapped to use as a bartering tool to get something from Ranma. It's rare for her to get kidnapped, and it only happens at all because of her familiarity with Ranma. Truly, it's dangerous to be Ranma's favorite fiancee.
Jupiah wrote:Akane's only been kidnapped twice in the manga, and it was never for romantic reasons. She was only ever kidnapped to use as a bartering tool to get something from Ranma. It's rare for her to get kidnapped, and it only happens at all because of her familiarity with Ranma. Truly, it's dangerous to be Ranma's favorite fiancee.
Jupiah wrote:Can the mind-control accupressure and the body-stealing doll really be considered kidnapping?
FriendlyEL wrote:Ranma is the single best fighter in the series: Cologne, Happosai, Taro, Herb, and Saffron, to think of a few are all consistently able to completely outclass him. It's just that Ranma has at times had a great moment of luck or had help from others.
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