How to kill Ranma

[Zwzn]

What does it take to actually kill Ranma Saotome?

He doesn't seem to need to breath as shown in the Romeo and Juliet arc.

Genma starved him for years, and the martial arts dinning arc seemed to show not eating doesn't make him lose mass from not eating.

The battle with Saffron showed Ranma does not die from being frozen, and he was only bothered by temperatures in several instances that at the very least instantly boiled water.

He had a spatula embedded in his head in the Valentine's day arc.

[three headed dog]

While he was buried by Happosai during the Romeo and Juliet arc that does not mean he does not need to breathe. We don't know how deeply or how well he was buried there may have been a shaft that allowed air in. The arc with the demon dog spirit swimsuit had him nearly drown which implies that he needs to breathe.

He did lose mass (and fainted from hunger) during the martial arts dining story arc at least in female form. He lost enough that the corset fell off.

While he has a very impressive resistance to temperature extremes being in those extremes for a long enough period would probably do him in, i.e. can survive short term far beyond real life human range but not for an extended period of time.

Was the spatula embedded in his head or in his hair?

Personally I find this topic to be fairly pointless. It is possible he developed some type of technique that allows him to go without food and air (after all an extremely strong case could be made about Happosai since he was trapped for years) but in my personal opinion while he maybe able to go without longer than a real life human (since he does practice martial arts that allows abilities beyond human) he still needs to breathe, eat, can be damaged enough to kill him, and being in extreme temperatures for an extended period of time will do him in.

[Crescent Pulsar R]

Well, Ranma 1/2 is a gag manga, and Ranma is the main character, so he's not going to die unless there's a Great Will of the Macrocosm around to resurrect him. Probably. ;p As it is, he is shown to be rather resilient in certain stories, as opposed to others. For instance, there's the story where he got sick, and his body was so hot that it could boil water on contact, burn Genma's fur, or turn a bedroom into an oven. And then his body was so cold that he kept accumulating ice on his body from the air, making it hard to move, and his breath was cold enough to freeze Happosai into a state where he could be smashed into pieces with a mallet. XD

But, if I had to guess how he would likely die, it'd probably be due to blood loss, as a result of accumulated injury.

[Dumbledork]

Ranma has the Looney Tunes syndrome. You can drop anvils on his head he doesn't die.

[Zwzn]

While he was buried by Happosai during the Romeo and Juliet arc that does not mean he does not need to breathe. We don't know how deeply or how well he was buried there may have been a shaft that allowed air in.

The chains and concrete should have done Ranma in by themselves like how a constrictor kills. The burying would have been icing on the cake. On top of all that Ranma was most likely unconscious, and last I checked an unconscious person will not hold their breath. Ranma would have been inhaling dirt.

Happosai fully intended for Ranma to be dead.

The arc with the demon dog spirit swimsuit had him nearly drown which implies that he needs to breathe.

Where do we see that? Ranma is fine until he destroys the shine, and then there is a big flash of light, and Ranma wakes up in a hotel room or something with the demon dog spirit swimsuit on.

He did lose mass (and fainted from hunger) during the martial arts dining story arc at least in female form. He lost enough that the corset fell off.

Did he lose the weight? The only way for that corset to fall off the way it did is for his female form's hip bones to not be as wide, and his clothing fit perfectly after the corset fell off. We know from the Saffron arc that Ranma can selectively pass through solid objects, and he was very energetic for someone who was starving after the corset fell off.

It actually looks like Ranma hitting his head on the water melon is what Knocked him out if that makes any sense.

While he has a very impressive resistance to temperature extremes being in those extremes for a long enough period would probably do him in, i.e. can survive short term far beyond real life human range but not for an extended period of time.

Saffron's best only knocked him out for a few seconds. What we see are temperature extremes making Ranma uncomfortable, or causing pain, but not actually seeming to cause damage. Vaporized or frozen blood should kill a person for a number of reasons.

It would take an extremes greater then the staff that froze things, or what Saffron could put out. Frozen is frozen, and Vapor is vapor. Blood only works when liquid.

Was the spatula embedded in his head or in his hair?

I don't think Ranma uses enough gel to have the blade appear to be stuck in his head.

Personally I find this topic to be fairly pointless. It is possible he developed some type of technique that allows him to go without food and air (after all an extremely strong case could be made about Happosai since he was trapped for years) but in my personal opinion while he maybe able to go without longer than a real life human (since he does practice martial arts that allows abilities beyond human) he still needs to breathe, eat, can be damaged enough to kill him, and being in extreme temperatures for an extended period of time will do him in.

The entire purpose of this site serves no practical value. Being pointless is the point.

As you said Happosai survived something like 15 to 16 years with no food, water, or likely breathable air makes it believable Ranma could do the same.

Ranma has had a lot of magical thing in his body as well like the moss of life, and the phoenix pill.

The only way I see to put Ranma down is to basically make sure his body is not left in tact.

[Zwzn]

Ranma has the Looney Tunes syndrome. You can drop anvils on his head he doesn't die.

It's not that bad just look at the baseball to the face Ranma got at the start of the series.

[Zwzn]

Well, Ranma 1/2 is a gag manga, and Ranma is the main character, so he's not going to die unless there's a Great Will of the Macrocosm around to resurrect him. Probably. ;p As it is, he is shown to be rather resilient in certain stories, as opposed to others. For instance, there's the story where he got sick, and his body was so hot that it could boil water on contact, burn Genma's fur, or turn a bedroom into an oven. And then his body was so cold that he kept accumulating ice on his body from the air, making it hard to move, and his breath was cold enough to freeze Happosai into a state where he could be smashed into pieces with a mallet. XD

But, if I had to guess how he would likely die, it'd probably be due to blood loss, as a result of accumulated injury.

That seems consistent with the temperatures extremes Ranma takes in the Saffron arc when Saffron was trying to kill Ranma.

Ranma 1/2 list as an action series by Viz.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

What does it take to actually kill Ranma Saotome?

Next question...

[Zwzn]

Next question...

What is that, and how can you be sure it will work?

[Crescent Pulsar R]

I'm bored, so...

The chains and concrete should have done Ranma in by themselves like how a constrictor kills. The burying would have been icing on the cake. On top of all that Ranma was most likely unconscious, and last I checked an unconscious person will not hold their breath. Ranma would have been inhaling dirt.

Happosai fully intended for Ranma to be dead.

You're taking this too seriously, and out of context. We're talking about Ranma 1/2, here, not what we should expect to happen if either of us were in that position in real life. It was a gag. The only thing we need to know is...

Ranma: "Did you really think sealing me in concrete, and burying me in the yard, was even gonna slow me down!?"

Where do we see that? Ranma is fine until he destroys the shine, and then there is a big flash of light, and Ranma wakes up in a hotel room or something with the demon dog spirit swimsuit on.

A better example is when Ranma and Shinnosuke are rescuing Akane from the Orochi's mouth. They exhale a lot of air when they see each other, and Ranma is holding her breath in on the swim back up. They both gasp in air when they surface, and catch their breath on land. None of this would have happened if Ranma had no concerns about needing air. (And if you point back to the "Romeo and Juliet arc," you already have my answer to that.)

Did he lose the weight? The only way for that corset to fall off the way it did is for his female form's hip bones to not be as wide, and his clothing fit perfectly after the corset fell off.

Soun, after the corset falls off: "Of course... The training... It's been starving him for weeks! He's skinny!"

Regardless of the hip bone, that's the explanation given: she lost weight and became thin enough for the corset to fall off.

and he was very energetic for someone who was starving after the corset fell off.

On more than one occasion we see Ranma's lack of energy from not having enough to eat. She fainted once, and you could really see it prior to the corset falling off. Besides which, with the various examples that show Ranma starving for food in the past (at the Amazon village, eating the dragon whisker, and the guy whose footprint she left on his head), or being denied food (by Genma, while growing up, shown in the story where Genma realizes that his son has surpassed him), he's probably had enough experience dealing with starvation to deal with it well enough.

We know from the Saffron arc that Ranma can selectively pass through solid objects

Um... what? I don't recall him having ghost powers... And what does that have to do with Ranma losing weight?

Saffron's best only knocked him out for a few seconds. What we see are temperature extremes making Ranma uncomfortable, or causing pain, but not actually seeming to cause damage. Vaporized or frozen blood should kill a person for a number of reasons.

It would take an extremes greater then the staff that froze things, or what Saffron could put out. Frozen is frozen, and Vapor is vapor. Blood only works when liquid.

Then, in conclusion, his blood must not have froze or vaporized. It doesn't matter if it should; this is Ranma 1/2, and it's not an issue.

The entire purpose of this site serves no practical value. Being pointless is the point.

Let me get this straight. Fukufics keeps people updated and aware of certain fan-fiction, aids in the creation of said fan-fiction, as well as inspire the creation of said fan-fiction, and it has no practical value? Get off the stage!

[three headed dog]

Um... what? I don't recall him having ghost powers...

What Zwzn is probably referencing there is that Ranma removed Shampoo's bra without damaging the bra or the shirt she was wearing over the bra. Personally I do view that as a technique most likely based off of Happosai (who has done the same as well as the opposite put clothes on a person without damaging the clothes or the person noticing). One explanation is that the clothing temporarily became intangible so as to pass through the other clothes/people.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

What is that, and how can you be sure it will work?

That is a two-hundred megaton rated fusion beam coming down from an orbiting capital ship.

And as this qualifies as nuking the site from orbit, I'm not only sure it will work, I know it is the ONLY way to be sure. Ripley said so.

[Crescent Pulsar R]

Indeed. It's the only way to be sure. :O

What Zwzn is probably referencing there is that Ranma removed Shampoo's bra without damaging the bra or the shirt she was wearing over the bra. Personally I do view that as a technique most likely based off of Happosai (who has done the same as well as the opposite put clothes on a person without damaging the clothes or the person noticing). One explanation is that the clothing temporarily became intangible so as to pass through the other clothes/people.

Oh, that? It may have just been a mistake on Takahashi's part. I mean, when we first see the bra removed, between his mouth and Mousse's hand, there are no shoulder straps. When it's shown several panels later, though, it has shoulder straps. However, where they're shown attached to the cups, should have been in sight the first time. Clearly, the shoulders straps are missing, from where they're shown to be attached later on, when we see the bra while her shirt is open, before it's taken.

[Zwzn]

You're taking this too seriously, and out of context. We're talking about Ranma 1/2, here, not what we should expect to happen if either of us were in that position in real life. It was a gag. The only thing we need to know is...

Happi fully intended for Ranma to die when he did that. Even the author realized Ranma should have died.

Ranma: "Did you really think sealing me in concrete, and burying me in the yard, was even gonna slow me down!?"

One of my favorite quotes.

A better example is when Ranma and Shinnosuke are rescuing Akane from the Orochi's mouth. They exhale a lot of air when they see each other, and Ranma is holding her breath in on the swim back up. They both gasp in air when they surface, and catch their breath on land. None of this would have happened if Ranma had no concerns about needing air. (And if you point back to the "Romeo and Juliet arc," you already have my answer to that.)

Healing water would kind of make it hard to drown, I would think. The exotic properties of the water make it a bad example, and just because you don't need something does not mean going without it is enjoyable, or that you realize you don't need it.

As to The Romeo and Juliet arc you can't hold your breath when unconscious, and the only way I can see Happosai being able put Ranma in chains, concrete, and bury him was if Ranma was unconscious.

Soun, after the corset falls off: "Of course... The training... It's been starving him for weeks! He's skinny!"

Regardless of the hip bone, that's the explanation given: she lost weight and became thin enough for the corset to fall off.

That explanation would work if the corset was tube shaped rather then hourglass shaped.

It's not like we don't see characters assume things that don't match what happened.

On more than one occasion we see Ranma's lack of energy from not having enough to eat. She fainted once, and you could really see it prior to the corset falling off.

You mean when Ranma gets K.O. from hitting his head on a water melon? That had to be some melon for it not to shatter or at least crack when Ranma's head hit it.

We see Happosai in a similar state when he gets out of the cave.

Ranma has always been that skinny. Soun is just trying to figure out how Ranma got out of the corset. Characters make assumptions about things, and are wrong.

Besides which, with the various examples that show Ranma starving for food in the past (at the Amazon village, eating the dragon whisker, and the guy whose footprint she left on his head), or being denied food (by Genma, while growing up, shown in the story where Genma realizes that his son has surpassed him), he's probably had enough experience dealing with starvation to deal with it well enough.

Feeling hungry, and wanting to eat have nothing to do with needing to eat. From what we see Ranma was under fed when he was growing, and yet he is average size if not large for his age.

<P><I> Um... what? I don't recall him having ghost powers... And what does that have to do with Ranma losing weight? </I><P>
During the Saffron arc Shampoo puts dehydrated Akane under her shirt, and between her breasts. Ranma can't use his hands so he tries to grab Akane with his mouth. Ranma ends up removing Shampoo's bra without damaging or removing the shirt, bra, or damaging Shampoo.

Hip bones will not shrink much even if you don't eat for a few weeks.

Then, in conclusion, his blood must not have froze or vaporized. It doesn't matter if it should; this is Ranma 1/2, and it's not an issue.

So you are saying that the magic freeze anything it touches instantly staff did not freeze Ranma when he used it on himself?

Either way Ranma's body still reaches freezing and boiling temperatures without much effect.

Let me get this straight. Fukufics keeps people updated and aware of certain fan-fiction, aids in the creation of said fan-fiction, as well as inspire the creation of said fan-fiction, and it has no practical value? Get off the stage!

No practical value, I do not see any practical value from something done just for fun like this thread.

I just have way to much time on my hands, and made this thread to try and come up with a plausible ways of putting Ranma down. It's for fun, and to help fanfic writers. I have seen too many fics where Ranma is killed or crippled by something like a car moving in normal traffic.

[Zwzn]

What is that, and how can you be sure it will work?

That is a two-hundred megaton rated fusion beam coming down from an orbiting capital ship.

And as this qualifies as nuking the site from orbit, I'm not only sure it will work, I know it is the ONLY way to be sure. Ripley said so.

The problem is Saffron tried something like that on a smaller scale, and at best it knocked Ranma out for a few seconds, and we don't know Ranma's upper limits.