by Nekomata-sensei » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:41 pm
I'd say Kenichi in the manga just recently reached near the level Ranma was at at the beginning of the manga, at least strong enough to beat starting Kuno. He surpassed Akane somewhat recently, although it is hard to tell. I would _not_ say he has surpassed Kuno yet, even if I think he could beat him pretty easily due to Kuno's restrictive fighting style, and the fact Kenichi can defend himself for a bit while facing true kenjutsu masters trying to kill him.
Ranma beating Kenichi is more up in the air. I think Ranma is 'master' level in terms of strength and speed compared to the Kenichi setting, possibly even higher in toughness, although not as high as Miu's Grandfather in anything. I would however, question if he is actually at Kenchi's 'skill' level, in terms of pure martial arts, if their strength and speed were equal and Ranma couldn't use special techniques, I think Kenichi would be able to beat Ranma by the time he learns the second stage seikuken(sp?) training, possibly even the 1st stage of it. Ranma also appears to be a Sei type fighter, who has more trouble facing other Sei types like Cologne and Mousse to be, and is better at facing Do types like Happosai, Genma, Akane, Kuno, Ryoga, etc. partly because he is more used to facing them, and his fighting style involves provoking his opponent into anger and distraction. Given that Kenichi is a Sei type and has mastered the 2nd stage seikuken(sp?) training, he'd be able to read, counter, and predict Ranma's every move, while Ranma wouldn't be able to play his normal defensive provoking game. I'd say that the current Kenichi might even be able to beat the starting-manga Ranma, although Ranma would likely have him beaten in speed, and by a lesser degree in strength, and already has some advanced level stealth and wall walking type stuff, plus the girl form to trick Kenichi if Ranma got desperate and water was available.
Miu though, I think would probably kick Ranma's butt. Ranma might be able to fight girls better than Kenichi, but provoking Miu wouldn't make her distracted, it would make her get stronger, given the way she was trained, and while she doesn't have as many tricks, she appears to be stronger than and much more skilled than Shampoo, and probably slightly higher than girl-Ranma's strength. Ranma would probably only be able to beat her using the HSH or Moukou Takabisha, or trying to overpower or outspeed her if it is later in the manga for Ranma. Early manga Ranma would just get crushed by Miu completely, probably as easily as Ranma could crush Akane at that point.
Any of the masters from Ryozampaku could probably defeat Ranma, unless he was being really sneaky and fighting really dirty, and unsealed the umi-sen-ken, and even then, it would depend on which master he was facing. Even end of manga Ranma would never stand any chance against Miu's grandfather no matter what he did. But then again, it isn't really a fair comparison, as Miu's Grandfather's power level appears to be 'OVER 9000!', or something along those lines.
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