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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:54 pm

I wouldn't say conflict because any proper chapter has a discerning end to a certain event or a series of related events. The first part is the introduction to the setting and the character's circumstances, and the general theme is Ranma being lost and found (which happens twice), which understandably comes to an end when Ranma decides to stick with Tsunade. The second part covers Ranma's time with Tsunade and how he grows up under her care, which -- again -- understandably ends when Ranma decides to leave on her own. Basically, people will still understand how things progress if they're put together, but it would be the equivalent of a run-on sentence. Worry less about the size of the chapters and more about the chapters' contents not being superfluous.

As for Tsunade and Shizune, I don't remember them very well, but anything that may be odd about their behavior doesn't seem all that obvious to me. I'm more worried about the air-walking being believable, but I don't know enough to have an opinion about that.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:49 pm

Thanks for the feed back and good to know :D
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:04 am

Ok so apparently this discussion was taking place with Law Ohki in another topic of mine. Which is cool. The air walking I was unsure of myself but i kind of wanted to keep it using the jet principle. Of course I wanted something to make Ranma stand out but maybe air walking on top of herb like floating later one would be too oped so...

Here an Alternate Take , tell me which scene works better .

************* ALTERNATE TAKE **************



Tsunade had been very surprised when Ranma learned tree water within a few minutes of being shown, then to her further shock , the girl had been able to do water walking with relative easy after a few minutes of trying. Of course that was not to say that Ranma was walking on water all that well, the red head face showed great concentration as she took step after tentative steps over the water.

If Tsunade did not know any better, she said that the girl was able to grasp the principle behind the technique and all she needed to do now was apply it via trail and error.

"WAHHH!" Ranma shouted as she plunked down into the water and broke the surface a moment later before swimming to shore with her tiny arms.

"You tried too much too soon," Tsunade told the red head girl as the little girl made her way out of the small lake. True, Ranma had been molding her chakra coils diligently for the past few months but without having any natural chakra to begin with her reserve were smaller then most.

"Che," Ranma complained as she dragged herself out of the lake before falling flat down onto her face. "Stupid tiny reserves." She grumbled. She knew the reason why she fell, she ran out of chakra which was the main energy that would let her support herself over water.

"Well if you keep at it pretty soon you would be able to do it pretty easily," Shizune with little Tonton in her arms told the disappointed red head.

"Of course I will!" Ranma said confidently as she rolled onto her back and stared at the sky. "I'm gonna master this sucker in no time just you wait and see!"

Tsunade had to crack a smile at that, the little redhead confident attitude reminded her of another similar redhead with her resolve. "Sure sure, keep molding chakra and you MIGHT make a half decent ninja some day." She teased the little girl.

Ranma however snorted at the woman comment. "Who said I ever wanted to be a Ninja? I rather be a martial artist." She countered.

"It's called Taijutsu get it right!" Tsunade lectured the girl. "Honestly, learn the classification of a shinobi at least!"

"Pff, we ain't no body teaching me," Ranma shot back before getting back up again and to both women surprised stat in a meditative position and started to do the chakra molding seal a look of intense concentration on the little girl face. "Ox..Rooster...Boar...Dragon.."

Nodding , Tsunade and Shizune left the girl alone as they also went back to their own training for the day. It was time for the sage to teach her apprentice about all the more exotic type of poisons found only in this area. Strong enough to put down even the hardiest of shinobi while at the same time make a strong analgesic if mixed correctly.

++++ Later that Evening ++++

Tsunade and Shizune who had left hours ago finally returned with their leave basket filled to the brim with the exotic plant.

"And if you chew it and keep it seal on the inside of your cheek you can spit it out a moment notice, the trigger of course would be up to you," Tsunade told her apprentice who was nodding.

"Hai Sensei," Shizune replied as she burned the knowledge into her mind to experiment with later.

"Now this little bad boy will sell for quite a high price once we do a bit of refinement, I am thinking capsule form," Tsunade said grinning thinking of the new gambling money she'd have and all for plucking some plants in the wilderness.

"T-tsunade-sama..." Shizune said in a strain voice, of course gambling was her main motivator.

"Hey, I taught you stuff so it wasn't all for me!" Tsunade defended herself before looking around for her little redhead hellion only to find her still in the same exact position by the edge of the lake.

"Is she still molding her chakra?" Shizune said in genuine surprised. Usually children of the shinobi village weren't that diligent. In fact only the bloodline family would force their children to train this diligently which explains the gap between civilians and the noble's of Konoha when they finally went to Shinobi school.

Shrugging her shoulders, Tsunade lay down her haul and set about setting lighting up a camp fire. They weren't near any villages today so camping out was their only option.

An hour later when dinner was prepared Shizune looked over at the still occupied girl and called her name. "Ranma, dinner's ready."

To Shizune surprise who knew the little girl had a voracious appetite, she still sat in the same position her hand still doing the seals as she was taught. Her mouth mumbling it's incantation.

"Hey brat, food!" Tsunade in a raised voice but still saw the red head unresponsive , her hand still set on it's task.

Taking a pebble from the fire Tsunade bounced it on her hand a few time before smirking evilly as she flicked the rock at the little girl head.

To both the sage and her student surprise the redhead tilted her head aside letting the pebble miss her completely before righting herself. Her hand still performing the molding motions.

Narrowing her eyes, Tsunade took several pebble and shucked them toward the redhead faster this time.

Ranma sensed the multiple attack homing in her her head and let out a frustrated breath as she was forced to stop her practiced. Turning only her upper body slightly around and with only one hand she intercepted all the tiny pebbles between her fingers and showed them off to her blond attacker.

"Blehh!" Ranma said as she pulled down her eyelid at the legendary sage before dropping spreading her fingers wider letting the caught projectile fall right next to her.

"Wow," Shizune said blinking. "That's really good reflex."

Tsunade cocked her head to a side studying the little red head girl as if trying to determine something. "Hey brat, " She said as she scooped up a hand full of tiny pebbles form nearby. "Catch."

Ranma turned around as she saw dozen of projectiles headed toward her and was force to stand up to duck, weave, dodge, and bat some of them away. Yet many of them were able to get through her defense and tagged her leaving a stinging sensation where it struck.

A moment later the barrage ended much to Ranma surprised still she decided to stop practice for the day, clearly they wanted her to join them for dinner.

Tsunade looked at the little red head as she approached the campfire a thoughtful expression on her face.

"Itadakimasu," Ranma said politely as she began to chow down on the what she like to call Wild's Soup.

Looking over at Shizune , Tsunade beckon the girl over and the two started to whispered conspiratorially to her apprentice.

Ranma sweat dropped when she saw the two women huddled up talking to one another while glancing at her from the corner of her eye. It was a few minutes before nodding to each other they turned back to face her.

"Okay Ranma," Tsunade said non-nonchalantly looking at her fingernails in a bored expression. " I have decided to generously allow you to become a probationary student, you want to brat?"

"What?Really?" Ranma asked shocked. The woman had been adamant about not teaching her anything so why now? "Why?"

"I have to admit," Tsunade said after a few thought second. "You might have some skill and it would be a shame to see just how far you could go with some guidance."

"Really?!" Ranma asked incredulously again. She had only been bugging Tsunade about it for the past couple of week but received a firm no each time.

"Yes, really," Tsunade said with an amused smile. "So what's your answer brat?"

Eye widening at the offer, Ranma grinned. "Well I ain't gonna say no!" She retorted as if it was the most obvious thing in the world. Who know maybe she could refine her anything goes even better with these two women training her.

"Of course Shizune is your senpai, so you'll have to listen to her," Tsunade said giving Ranma a grin.

"Let's get along well together Ranma-chan," Shizune said smiling at the little girl.

"Hey, I ain't got no problem with that Shizune-Senpai," Ranma responded eagerly. Finally, real training from capable teachers in this world but saw Tsunade hold up a hand. "Yeah?"

"Aren't you forgetting something?" Tsunade asked smirking and smiled even wider when she saw the little girl confused look.

"Umm..." Ranma raked her brains but couldn't come up with anything, what did Tsunade want? "Okay , I give up."

Smirking Tsunade stood tall in front of the redhead towering over her. With her arms folded across her impressive bust line, the slug princess looked down upon the little girl with a imperious look. "You forgot to bow to your master to make it official Ranma-chan ."

"Urk!" Ranma said but since this was ancient Japan-ish, she knew they use to do it like this back in her own home country. So she prostrate herself in submission to Tsunade as respectfully as she could.

At that point Shizune couldn't hold her laughter in anymore and laughed hard only to be joined a second later by Tsunade.

Ranma head shot up and looked from the Shizune to Tsunade before narrowing her eyes at the busty woman. She just been hazed! "Tsunade no baka!"

**** 3 years later ****

"Soo damn cold!" Tsunade complained as she was covered in a thick fur coat shivering . "Damn it Shizune when is it my turn with Ranma-chan?!"

"Not for another hour master," Shizune said happily as she snuggled the red head into her body some more.

Ranma just groaned as she had to deal with it. Three years, three years she had been with these two women and they were still the same as before treating her like a cuddle toy!

Currently the three had been on their way to the Land of Snow because Tsunade had been banned temporary from the Land of Fire gambling dens. Who knew criminals sticks together?

For some odd reason Ranma body as if in reaction to the cold changed and started to warm up protecting the girl from the oppressive cold. In fact she didn't even need to wear a coat like her Sensei and Senpai. When the women had found out that Ranma became a mobile heater they decided to take turn as they passed her back and forth between them for warmth.

Ranma had a sneaking suspicious that this had something to do with what Herb did to her.

Tsunade however chalked it up to a Uzu bloodline trait, she had long ago explained to the little redhead that she was a Whirlpool survivor.

During the intervening years Ranma had decided to corrected the two women on the issue of her gender and that she was actually a having Tsunade give her an impromptu biology lesson, stuff that Ranma still shuddered in horror of having learned, about the difference between male and females Ranma dropped the issue. She'll show them one day that's for sure. Her past however , was none of their business and they most likely wouldn't believe her anyway. Still if they want to keep on thinking she was an Uzu survivor then so be it, it'll make it simpler for her to integrate.

"Buu~ You're so nice and warm Ranma-sama," A tiny pink and white strip slug said right next to Ranma neck.

"I do concurred Atsuko-chan," A tiny blue and white strip slugged on the other side of Ranma neck.

"How could you abandon me Katsuyuu!" Tsunade said miserably as she shivered out in the cold alone looking very pitiful.

"I would never abandon you Tsunade-hime," Katsuyuu answered gently. "You know I wouldn't be able to survivor without Ranma-hime warmth."

"Bah!" Tsunade replied, technically Katsuyuu was there to make sure Ranma was okay, Ranma own slug summon had been out and about also ready to heal the girl in a moment heart beat if her new ability to stay warm was some fluke.

"I already told you two, stop calling me Hime Katsuyuu, and you Atsuko, some adding sama to my name." Ranma said tiredly. From her posture, one could tell that this was not the first time she had this debate with the two gastropods.

"Of course Ranma-hime," Katsuyuu replied as politely as possible.

"Oh~ ! Not a problem Ranma-sama!" Atsuko replied happily.

"I give up," Ranma said finally in a flat tone and hug her head dejectedly.

An hour later and it was Shizune hugging Tonton for warmth while Tsunade had mashed the young red hair girl to her bosom. That was the place that needed the most warmth in her opinion. Now that Ranma had grown taller and bigger, there was no longer any worries of Tsunade killing her via suffocation.

"Ahhh, Ranma! You're so warm! You skin is soft and silky!" Tsunade said happily as she snuggled rubbed her cheeks against the redhead own.

"Uhh...you're kind sounding a bit pedophile-ish there sensei," Ranma said flatly at her mentor's tone.

"Mmmm if you're this warm I might not care," Tsunade replied as she now had Ranma awesome warmth all to herself.

Sighing Ranma accepted her fate for now and let the Sannin continued to hug her. She had to admit learning medical jutsu from Tsunade was an eye opener and while she could perform it, she would never use it on herself unless she absolutely have to, her ki itself is good enough for that however she did learn Ninjtsu , that was really helpful especially the seals to hold things into scrolls.

Sealing was something Ranma took to like a duck to water mainly because it reminded her a lot of martial arts calligraphy and partly because the ability to store things away without having to use her hidden space , like water and food, was a big motivator.

Unfortunately Ranma aptitude in the sealing arts only further made Tsunade insist that she was an Uzu survivor, even her using the anything goes skills in hand to hand was attribute once more to being an Uzu clansmen.

While Ranma didn't mind the mistaken identity they act like if one weren't part of a blood line that they would be less superior. She found out later from Shizune that that was how Shinbo's generally thought of dojutsu and that bloodline traits were highly prized among the hidden villages.

That had began Ranma impromptu lesson about the various known bloodline clan a lesson that had left her shocked. Ranma had assume incorrectly that the bloodline traits Tsunade had been talking about was like in Japan, nobles marrying one another and calling themselves better then commoners.

Apparently in this world, a blood line is an actually boost in power and ability. First she learned about Konoha bloodline, the village she apparently belonged to now thanks to Tsunade inducting her as her student. People that could talk to dogs? People that uses bugs and can order them to spy? People that could take over others minds? Even people that could see your chakra energy and even copy your skill upon one viewing?

What kind of bullshit cheating abilities was that?!

Next Ranma was educated about the other villages and their known bloodline ability. Water controllers? Sand controllers? Mist controllers? Fire controllers? Wind controllers?! What was this? Avatar the last air bender?! Ranma seen the series before and to her it was just as similar.

Then there were the one with the physical traits, tough skin, bones as weapons, animal like traits...the list went on and on. Thank to Tsunade being a medical ninja she was able to break down the biology and traits for Ranma to learn.

At first Ranma had scoffed at being what was called a medic-nin, To her medic-nin didn't sound like the fighting type but after learning from Tsunade, Ranma now realize a medic-nin could be one of the deadliest enemy another shinobi face due to all their intimate knowledge of the shinobi's body.

Ranma later found out that Tsunade great strength came from her bloodline but her Taijutsu,Ninjutsu and Genjutsu were all of her own ability. That made Ranma respect her that much more.

Of course the one ability that Ranma had yet been able to master , one that she really wanted to learn was genjustu. She did not know why but tried as she might Ranma couldn't create any fake illusion her only consolation was that direct illusion type attacks does not work on her. She could be fooled to see a hamster as a rock but when trying to turn her into said rock or trap her into an illusion it simply felt as if it grabbed hold of her for a second before being burnt away.

Tsunade said Ranma should be thankful for having such an immunity but lamented that she wouldn't be able to teach her some of her better Genjutsu move like disguising herself. Which was the real reason why Ranma wanted that skill set. To be able to create an illusion of her male body would have been a god sent but it's been three years and she still show no aptitude for it.

"Tsunade-sama," Shizune said as she looked at the forest area.

Ranma had also stiffen whens she felt the presence of several dozen people surrounding them. Tsunade was already in alert mode. Judging by the way the group was moving in to encircled them in the blizzard Ranma knew that these weren't passer by.

Still, they knew exactly how to deal with these kind of stragglers. Ranma had also learn that in this world it a brutal dog eat dog kind of world. You either die or you live, it was just her luck that she was found by Tsunade who had yet kill anyone on their journey but Ranma knew that one day she herself would have to kill. After all she wasn't stupid, Shizune poison abilities were obviously meant to be fatal while all the technique Tsunade was teaching her were all killing moves.

Suddenly the bandits sprung their trap and surrounded the group or so they thought, looking confused the bandit leader started to search for the three women.

"Alright , hands over all your valuables if you want to live!" The Bandit shouted in a demanding voice, a katana in his hand pointing at the trio.

Already other furred made a loose circle around the trio of woman, some of them even leering of the older two with unconcealed lust.

"Oh! Can I take them out please?" Ranma asked from between Tsunade bosom. Fighting these bandits were a good practice of her skills.

"There's like eight of them,you think you can handle them runt?" Tsunade asked, she had taken to call Ranma runt when she noticed that the girl was shorter then other girls her own age.

"Just wait until I'd turn back into a guy," Ranma grumbled.

"You said something?" Tsunade asked not hearing what Ranma had said due to the noise from the blowing wind.

"I'm sure I can!" Ranma replied confidently.

"Hmm," Tsunade said musing. The eight looked weak and Ranma did need field experience. "Okay, they're all yours."

A moment later much to Tsunade disappointment, Ranma warmth left her.

"Okay, you want our money?" Ranma said looking at the confused bandit who witness their whole exchanged. "Come take it of you can."

"Get them!" The bandit leader yelled as all the men rushed the two grown woman, the leader himself running toward Ranma.

"Arggh!" Ranma shouted as she grabbed her her. They were all suppose to fight her! Didn't they know the rules?!

"I'm gonna fetch a good price for you wench!" The bandit leader said menacingly as he swung the flat of his blade at the little girl hoping to knock her out. To his surprise the little girl rushed him and the next think he knew there was an explosion of light in his eyes.

Kneeing the man in the face, Ranma grabbed the man hood and yanked down on it hard making him fall face forward. Onto the snow, making the handseals quickly she touched the snow on either side of the man.

"Koori seihonsuru No Jutsu!" Ranma shouted as she infused the chakra into the snow making it harden into ice before watching the glacier attack imprison the man tightly.

"You done already brat?" Tsunade asked as she sat on one of the defeated bandits with Shizune doing the same.

"God damn it!" Ranma pouted as she looked up to see the other seven bandits had been defeated with ease. She wanted to test out other jutsu and this was her best chance.

"Awww, it's okay maybe another time," Tsunade said with a sympathetic nod. It was not her fault the men did not few the little slip of a girl as a bigger threat then the two adults with her. "Now come jump into my bosom, I need your warmth Ranma-chan."

Shizune watched with confusion on her face as Ranma broke down in a gale of laughter holding her stomach while pointing at Tsunade saying something about a "reverse Happosai "before doubling over in laughter again laughing as she laughed at their teacher.

Tsunade just looked at the red head strangely, she swore the smallest thing set the girl off laughing. In fact it like that one time she wanted to name a little black pig P-chan.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby CYberCrisis » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:25 am

I do not know I like the first one better than the alternative. Beside if Ranma hold both beast sealed like Naruto he/she should have lots of reserves.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby StarrySkyS » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:55 am

The second take was definitely better. The air walking thing was...eeeehhhh...It reminds me too much of most super Naruto fics and that's not really good....

I also like this take as it has more warm and cuddly character interactions~
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:51 pm

I like the second version better.

(Should I assume that your comment about grammar means that you already have someone tasked with cleaning it up?)
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:10 pm

Crescent Pulsar S wrote:I like the second version better.

(Should I assume that your comment about grammar means that you already have someone tasked with cleaning it up?)




Yep, to the best of their abilities that is, mileage may vary. Will they corrected all of it? I cannot way but they'll catch what they can.

Hmm second one seem the better choice it seem.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby WG_Writer » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:14 pm

Ranma's ability to stick to surfaces got nerfed early on in the Manga. Initally he could do it with apparent ease (shown twice, once where he stood on a tree's trunk, and it was leaning against him so gravity should have been at full force. Also once versus when he was talking to Akane in her room, he was standing on the bottom of the roof. excuses could be made but it could be used to explain the tree issue. Water walking I can see he would need to learn.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:27 pm

WG_Writer wrote:Ranma's ability to stick to surfaces got nerfed early on in the Manga. Initally he could do it with apparent ease (shown twice, once where he stood on a tree's trunk, and it was leaning against him so gravity should have been at full force. Also once versus when he was talking to Akane in her room, he was standing on the bottom of the roof. excuses could be made but it could be used to explain the tree issue. Water walking I can see he would need to learn.


Still it is an ability he's shown so maybe...I might elaborate on the training scene a bit with Ranma mastering tree walking with ki but need chakra for water hence the concentration and difficulty. Thanks WG :D
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby LawOhki » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:52 pm

WG_Writer wrote:Ranma's ability to stick to surfaces got nerfed early on in the Manga. Initally he could do it with apparent ease (shown twice, once where he stood on a tree's trunk, and it was leaning against him so gravity should have been at full force. Also once versus when he was talking to Akane in her room, he was standing on the bottom of the roof. excuses could be made but it could be used to explain the tree issue. Water walking I can see he would need to learn.

It is debatable on just how long Ranma actually stood on the side of the tree. But it was certainly presented as something abnormal.


As for the story, the major sticking point for me is how OOC Tsunade is. She's far more sarcastic and serious and not so childish as you've portrayed. This would be shortly after she quit being a Konoha-nin to go out traveling with Shizune. She would be even more extreme in how cold she is to a loud child and extremely unlikely to volunteer to teach Ranma anything without her doing something extraordinary to bring her out of her shell. Shizune should be the one to start hesitantly teaching Ranma while they travel. Then the time skip and you can show that at some point Tsunade accepted Ranma as part of the group and her more childish side could come out around her.

You don't need to detail Ranma's training at the start, just get out that she's learning, and then after the time skip just have it be done.

There's also been far too much given to Ranma. Not one but two beings on par with tailed beasts inside her? It's blatant and unneeded overkill. You've thrown enough in with Herb for some reason being at the Saffron arc, but he could easily be cut out to focus it happening with just Saffron. (Say the staffs are actually a sealing device and Ranma uses one correctly.)

For chakra usage, if all of it is used or a character over exerts themselves they can die for the former and seriously injure themselves for the latter. Neither medic-nin would willing let a small child risk either.

"Wow, Tsunade was right, men were suckers for pretty faces." Ranma chuckle mirthfully.

:? Ranma has known this less than a month into having the curse. Let alone nearly a decade stuck in that form.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:27 pm

XD yeah that was edited out of my own version to something else on the last line that is, as far Tsunade. I tried to find footage of her on how she acted when they first met her, watch the flashback of Nawaki, and kinda based it off of that. I asked in my other post about Tsunade timeline on when she left Konoha and the answer was unknown so I pretty much winged it.

Also maybe I should do the time transition better because most of the cut that I don't blatantly spell out like "3 Years later" was mention in the story itself and how Tsunade pretty much said no, so time have passed where she did accepted the little read head. I might change the first part around of her interaction and her final line to be more in line with her uncertain persona that you suggested though , well her final line at least.


As for much being given to Ranma, I thought about it debated about it, and figure I can kind of get away with it. I mean if Naruto could be
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The nine tail container, son of the fourth Hokage, reincarnated son of the Sage of the Six path, bff with all the tailed beast and Sasuke power could be on par with Naruto right off the bat and Sakura being consider a Sannin after only 2 years of training,t hen I think lots of power is kind of in line for a Naruto fic.


I explained and hinted on what Suzaku and Seriyu really was, but maybe the grammers were too much and the finer point got lost in translation :D Well that's what my editors will be fixing up. I also explain why Herb was there too at the start but again maybe grammars and wording might be taken care of by my editor.

As for Chakra, I understand it and with the latest revelation, I get it however, Ranma is more fuel on Ki then Chakra. I am trying to show, in the future chapter that Ranma skill in Ninjtsu is weaker do to her limit chakra supply, that does not count her ki supply itself.

Maybe I should elaborate on why they find it odd that she is not dead yet or that she was not weak or sickly with her lack of Chakra since all living things in Naruto World HAS chakra.

Thanks for point it it, I'll see if I can paint Tsunade different and see at what point would be the best.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby LawOhki » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:59 pm

Vahn wrote:As for much being given to Ranma, I thought about it debated about it, and figure I can kind of get away with it. I mean if Naruto could be
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The nine tail container, son of the fourth Hokage, reincarnated son of the Sage of the Six path, bff with all the tailed beast and Sasuke power could be on par with Naruto right off the bat and Sakura being consider a Sannin after only 2 years of training,t hen I think lots of power is kind of in line for a Naruto fic.


All I can respond to at the moment.

Naruto had to earn those things. While he was the container he had to spend a great deal of time learning how to control the kyuubi's chakra and it took years and showing to Kurama many times that he was the real deal before they became friends. He had to prove himself to the tailed beasts with incredible feats that would have made anyone else legendary for just one act before they would put their trust in him.

It didn't matter who's son he was, he's always been described as someone who gets things done through hard work and determination, the exact opposite of Sasuke who can just GET everything with little effort. He's been shown constantly putting himself through strain that would break anyone lesser. Even being the reincarnation is not something that gives him instant power. In fact it gave him nothing except potential that like Asura, could only be realized by hard work and dedication because he didn't have natural talent.

Sannin is just a title and being that all three of the main Naruto cast were trained by them it's only natural for them to inherit the title. It took up until the current point in the manga for them to step up and show that they were the premiere three ninja in Konoha.


All of this is ignoring that a character in Naruto doesn't NEED to be given broken abilities to do incredible things. Ranma has always been incredibly skilled and innovative, raised from a young age by Tsunade and she'd be easily sitting at the top of the pack on arrival without any of this jinchuuriki stuff. If you want Ranma to be so OP then put her through hell to do it, make sure she deserves it. At the moment, Ranma's had a great deal of things all but given to her with a big bow on top.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby WG_Writer » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:21 pm

Based on your writing so far here is what my recommendation is:

First you need a mcguffin, something to nerf without nerfing Ranma. S/he needs to remain just as strong, but to ensure that there is still story Ranma needs to be at around chunin level upon returning to Konoha. At first when introduced there must be something that is messing up things.

I cannot say specifically your plot plans but its your choice.

btw for your updated knowledge (major Naruto spoiler)
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Naruto and Sasuke are actually reincarnations of the Sage of six paths two sons. One had the Sharingan and the other only had fighting spirit and the desire to make friends... sounds familiar? Based on Naruto's Predecessor and his desire to make friends the Ten Tails was divided up into the nine tailed beasts. the sage promised the beasts that someone would come to reunite them. However they thought it was meant to be the sage's reincarnation/secessor. Naruto lacked a lot of what we know of the sage, however he does have the heart where it matters and this is where the confusion takes place. (The Manga-ka himself is really really unclear on this situation. Especially how his mother was defeated the first time, not to meantion who was the father :?: Due to the lack of clarity I cannot be certain of the real truth of the back story.


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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:24 pm

I think that the reason why it might seem like that is my fault. I had initially planned to write a year per chapter by year of Ranma training with Tsunade which would have show case what you feel would warrant Ranma-chan earning those abilities or powers.

It was a tough decision as a Ranma/Tsunade/Shizune adventure would be pretty fun to read but really not that relevant to the overall Naruto plot. So Instead I went with the timeskip fast forward cut while making sure to show that Ranma had already started training in the Shinobi way under Tsunade and how Ranma attitude initially reflect what he thought a Ninja should be vs what he actually saw up close and personal.

I think however by me doing that, it seems as if Ranma suddenly know Ninjtsu and can learn how to summon a slug right off the bat along with having full control with the two beast inside of him might seem overpowered. I can only say I plan on addressing that in future chapters.

I am not sure what style of writing I am trying to do but I do know I want to leave plot hooks laying around so I can address it down the line when it becomes relevant.

Again, I don't think short of me actually writing the actual 10 or so chapters of what Ranma actually did understand Tsunade and then on her separate journey would showcase what kind of hardship Ranma had to go through. Naruto manga had the luxury of that and Naruto fanfic writer have the luxury of falling back on that when giving Naruto all these powers in their fic.

I however will be relying more on Ranma material to justified his/her powerboost season with Naruto of course.

Thank you very much though for your other points though, I fixed the stuff that made sense to me but the whole giving Ranma skills is something that can't be fix short of more chapters.
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Re: Working Title: Fake Princess [Ranma/Naruto] Possible SPO

Postby Vahn » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:29 pm

WG_Writer wrote:Based on your writing so far here is what my recommendation is:

First you need a mcguffin, something to nerf without nerfing Ranma. S/he needs to remain just as strong, but to ensure that there is still story Ranma needs to be at around chunin level upon returning to Konoha. At first when introduced there must be something that is messing up things.

I cannot say specifically your plot plans but its your choice.

btw for your updated knowledge (major Naruto spoiler)
SPOILER - Show Spoiler
Naruto and Sasuke are actually reincarnations of the Sage of six paths two sons. One had the Sharingan and the other only had fighting spirit and the desire to make friends... sounds familiar? Based on Naruto's Predecessor and his desire to make friends the Ten Tails was divided up into the nine tailed beasts. the sage promised the beasts that someone would come to reunite them. However they thought it was meant to be the sage's reincarnation/secessor. Naruto lacked a lot of what we know of the sage, however he does have the heart where it matters and this is where the confusion takes place. (The Manga-ka himself is really really unclear on this situation. Especially how his mother was defeated the first time, not to meantion who was the father :?: Due to the lack of clarity I cannot be certain of the real truth of the back story.


Regardless of what your history to this world is going to be you should ensure that you setup a good inital world build.


Oh there is a Mcguffin for sure as that would be revealed in the next chapter , but for now I wanted to build the Tsunade relationship and get it out of the way first in a plausible manner.

As for the latest chapters

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Thought it was Madara and not Sasuke that was the reincarnation of the Sage of the Six path son, and that the other son the one that loves to be BFF with everyone is the direction reincarnation of Naruto doing what he does best uniting people. At least that was what I took away from it and of course Kaguya is an evil bitch of course verdict is still out on that one but base on the story she was the one that broke chakra to all. So for my story purpose that still have a trap door in case anything changes, for Suzaku and Seriyu, Kaguya's a bitch.
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