Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby Blackcat101 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:28 am

Ryu did break his honor code, and is a racist, Ranma will crush him.
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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby Vahn » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:08 pm

Blackcat101 wrote:Ryu did break his honor code, and is a racist, Ranma will crush him.



Is he a racist though and does the honor code matter when your race is scheduled for genocide?
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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby Blackcat101 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Vahn wrote:
Is he a racist though and does the honor code matter when your race is scheduled for genocide?


For Ranma and apparently most of the cast of Ranma 1/2 honor is VERY important. Not only Ryu is working with human supremacists, he is using a technique that he promised on his honor to leave sealed.
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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby kazenoryu » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:57 am

Vahn wrote:
Is he a racist though and does the honor code matter when your race is scheduled for genocide?


Are they really, though? The mutant factions are currently those who want to coexist and those who want to wipe out non mutants, right?
I think it would be wrong to respond by committing genocide first, especially when there's still other alternatives. All they're doing there is proving Magneto right and giving him more recruits.

Also I wonder how Ranma expected Ryu to keep his word when he was pretending to be Ranma and all but holding Nodoka hostage. I would doubt his honor code if he had already shown that he was capable of doing such things.
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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby PCHeintz72 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:27 am

kazenoryu wrote:Are they really, though? The mutant factions are currently those who want to coexist and those who want to wipe out non mutants, right?
I think it would be wrong to respond by committing genocide first, especially when there's still other alternatives. All they're doing there is proving Magneto right and giving him more recruits.

I need to point out that racism, and genocide run rampant through X-Men canon. Non-mutants and mutants are equally guilty of crimes against each other. And I've never really considered Xavier's group 'good guys', merely 'better than most other options guys'

I've said in earlier threads on this story and still believe wholeheartedly that neither Xavier nor Magneto are entirely correct in their methods... They both get kudos for protecting their own, but each method breeds hatred or superiority between mutants and non-mutants. They are not truly working effectively or smartly to eliminate the friction between groups. Short term this is fine, long term I always felt that a mistake. A mistake borne out depending on which canon of X-Men you follow.

Had normal humans in the X-Men universe simply formed groups to fight mutant crime and attacks (think like AD-police against boomers in Bubblegum Crisis), I would have been wholeheartedly behind them. Instead they go way, way, too far in condemning all mutants.

In this story, really dropping Ranma into this, he is probably among the few on the planet that simply does not really have a true preference on either side. He does not care about mutant powers in general, yet does not care about being a 'flatscan' (it actually annoys Jean more than him). He sees the problems with their setups, but does not really care on that either, or he would have been having far more moral arguments with the Professor and Jean. He basically takes it as he sees it. His apparent blase attitude even allowed those from Genoshia to get along with him right off, even if it was partially due to some miscommunication on both sides in that cafeteria.

But having said that, you now have a situation where he clearly sees wrong being done... this is definitely going to change him. What will be interesting to read, is how far and in which direction. His actions will also be cemented in the eyes of all groups depending on just what he does at that base, and whom if any he saves.

If Ryoga is smart, he will shut up and not denigrate Ranma where those that were helped by him are near, should such a scene come up.
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Re: Homo Superior 8 - Ranma/Xmen [Rough Draft]

Postby Lioconvoy » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:04 am

I have now caught up and and while this chapter had it's up and downs, I'll wait for the next before deciding how I feel about the Amazon situation.

What does irk me though I Akane's emotional growth doesn't entirely make sense and seems a little too fast to me. For the longest time she was willing to put up with Ranma, but then she didn't even try to make him understand where she was now coming from. Before now if either of them was the type to assume an automatic date it be Akane rather than Ranma. This is just my opinion and I will admit that I really do need to finish reading the stuff between Ryu and the last arc.
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