Knight of L-Sama wrote:Fun can be had without twisting canon into a pretzel
Well when 'canon' generally involves ridiculously overplayed characterization, I like to ignore what it generally suggests whenever it doesn't outright say something.
Quite simple. Purification could refer to the removal of the cause of the Great Freeze, whether it be magical or technological in origin, lest it cuase a repeat or worse.
The fact that Naoko Takeuchi had environmental origins in mind kind of throws out that theory.
they believe that its removal will cause adverse effects,
Well why not listen to 'em for a minute.
Completely aside from which, 'Purification' was generally shown as a wave of energy bathing the Earth.
I would also point out that the Dark Moon Sisters didn't show any adverse effects from their purifications save the loss of their powers.
And was Sailor Moon doing the exact same thing as Serenity? I doubt it.
But you're accepting their reasoning for their attack as blindly as you say we shouldn't accept that from Crystal Tokyo.
I'm not actually. I'm accepting their memories of the past. I am only using that flashback to determine quality of life on Nemesis and how the Black Mooners ended up going to Earth. As for 'their reasoning': of course I'm accepting it as exactly what it is - their reasoning, not necessarily true or false.
They have what their ancestors said about what happened to go upon
Good. I never even heard what their ancestors said. Fascinating, isn't it? They were actually much more reasonable than normal people would be - completely unattached to their ancestors' cause, willing to beg to be allowed back on Earth. They'd committed no crime after all. They weren't her enemy. But, of course, there was no way for them to return or contact Crystal Tokyo to do that begging.
Whose to say that their descendants couldn't come back it they had returned peacefully instead of coming in all guns blazing.
The fact that there was no way for them to do it except make a deal with a devil and let Wiseman start 'influencing' them? The CT authority didn't even see fit to leave them a goddamn phone so the children - inevitable, but they'd committed no crime - could be saved from whatever situation they were stuck in.
As for Nemesis's state it's inhabitants bear at least some of the blame for that. It may not have started as a decent place but considering the effort it would have taken to move it so close to Earth to exact the revenge they probably could have made it a much better place to live if they had re-directed those efforts into terraforming and improving conditions.
That power came from Wiseguy, after they were already being messed with by him.
Besides which, the power to 'move' something and the power to make a planet a decent place to live are not necessarily related.
As others pointed out much of Nemsis's inhabitabilty could have been caused by the presence of Wiseman and the Dark Crystal.
Agreed. However, they didn't know it existed when they left Earth. Nobody did, Nemesis wasn't discovered by people on Earth until it swung around to attack.
In other words, they weren't banished to Nemesis. They were banished to the cold void of space.
And yet her decisions turned out to be right in the end.
Because the universe is slanted to let her win, and she had more raw power than any opponent.
In other words, because she was able to survive stupid decisions. But leadership isn't about power, it's about thoughts and decision-making. And a leader really should learn to cut their losses, since there are still six billion people they have to protect at the risk of one - you're not going to get a better trade than that. Dammit, I'm a massive Hotaru fan, but even I can recognize the right decision in the Mistress Nine affair.
The times she was trusted with the fate of the world, she frequently dropped the ball and only barely managed to squeeze out a survival thanks to her freakish power.
And might I point out that she had no compuctions about earsing Mettalia, the Doom Phantom and possibly Pharoah 90 (since we have no idea if it was her or Saturn that landed the final blow).
Of course not. They're evil demons. (Goddamn schoolgirl vigilante)
And it was near-certainly Saturn - anime-wise, it was within Saturn's capability to destroy the Pharaoh, and she explicitly stated that Super Moon could've made it possible for her to survive it. That being the only difference.
Besides which, what does 'the final blow' matter, when someone else has been doing the killing for five minutes prior?
It's only when she beleives that someone can be saved that she holds off.
Believes... Now, if she believed this on any basis, I'd be willing to accept it.
Let's see... She had no basis for believing she could save Hotaru (and, in fact, she didn't - Hotaru had to do the work herself), she just cost the Outers their opportunity to save the world, and then put it at further risk because she believed Mistress Nine pretending to be Hotaru (people always go on about her knack for who to trust without ever remembering how easily decieved she is...).
And as for her other qualifications she has proven willing to ask for advice when she's in over her head. And while we know Crystal Tokyo is a monarchy we have no idea what form of monarcy that takes. There could be a fairly conventional form of government below her with Neo Queen Serenity only intervening when nessecary and we never saw them because they had relocated out of Crystal Tokyo proper when the fighting began.
Fact-wise, it's true, we don't know.
However, the fairy-tale nature of SM suggests that she was a real queen.
From what we know if Neo-Queen Serenity is willing to take a hands off approach when nessecary and let people learn from their own mistakes (doesn't mean she likes to but she has been shown to recognise the neccesity) at least with Chibi-Usa and there's no reason to assume the same doesn't apply with the rest of Crystal Tokyo as a whole, letting everyone go on their own way unless there's a really major stuff-up.
This being the same girl who insisted that the Outers acknowledge her as their princess, follow her way of doing things, and obey her?
Moshulel wrote:Cristal Tokio strikes me as the dream of all dictators in hystory, no oppinion to contradict you because you rooted them from the start and you mind wiped the rest. It seems to me like a very eerly resemblance with how Stalin and Hitler dealt with their opponents.
The purification rather creepily reminds me of an atrocity-witchhunt from a novel.
What right do the reincarnation of some Moon Princess have to Earth?
Hell, what right does Endymion, Prince of Earth a few millenia ago, have to Earth?
None. Dying should negate your potential inheritance.
