Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby HopeSeiketsu » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:40 pm

Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Well, if him not being interested in being a sailor senshi counts, and even tries to avoid becoming one, I suppose there's The Prospective Senshi. But it's a horrible story that I wouldn't even recommend to my worst enemy. I wouldn't risk reading it.


Personally I liked the prospective senshi. But then again I don't really like ANY of ranmas fiancés.

It had an interesting thing going for it with the whole planet choosing its 8wn senshi and the senshi being all best not too interfere so that people can have as much free will as possible. I dont kniw about you guys but I have always felt that is how the senshi SHOULD be. Also I dont like the idea of ANY Geas bindings, such as the ones that were on pluto.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby PCHeintz72 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:26 pm

Meh... there are stories out there with the opposite having occurred.

There was one Kasumi became a senshi separate from the sailor senshi.... they did not like her overly much. That story sadly has been removed from FF.NET by author.

There was another one where Ranma became a sort of senshi, and Nabiki became a cabbit.... they did not overly like Ranma much in the first half of that one either.


There are others, like ones written by Ozzallos and Trugeta, that would also fit those parameters.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Blackcat101 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:56 am

PCHeintz72 wrote:Meh... there are stories out there with the opposite having occurred.

There was one Kasumi became a senshi separate from the sailor senshi.... they did not like her overly much. That story sadly has been removed from FF.NET by author.

There was another one where Ranma became a sort of senshi, and Nabiki became a cabbit.... they did not overly like Ranma much in the first half of that one either.


There are others, like ones written by Ozzallos and Trugeta, that would also fit those parameters.


A cabbit? Link please?

I mean, think on all the firepower she must have... yet is forced to obey Ranma...
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Té Rowan » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:30 pm

Blackcat101 wrote:A cabbit? Link please?

That would very likely be one of Cloud Dreamer’s stories: “The Earth Princess”.

There is also an AA thread where Nodoka wants Ranma to take over as Amaterasu’s avatar. Can’t remember the name, though. Nor was Ranma too keen on taking up the mantle as Paragon in Kenko’s fic of same name. Too much cute. A near miss, though, as Ranma did change her mind. But, hey, you gotta be the King/Queen of Grouch to not like Kenko fics.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Blackcat101 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:54 pm

The idea is not Ranma not wanting to be a Magical Girl but not really wanting to do that and refusing. If Ranma is interested in the idea even in the end he doesn't do it, it kinda defeats the purpose.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:08 pm

So, if he's forced into becoming one, he's not allowed to learn to adapt to/accept it so it's not a constant source of grief for the rest of his virtually-immortal life? :?
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Blackcat101 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:12 pm

Crescent Pulsar S wrote:So, if he's forced into becoming one, he's not allowed to learn to adapt to/accept it so it's not a constant source of grief for the rest of his virtually-immortal life? :?


You know how you sometimes have to do something you really hate? And no matter how many times you still have to do it you still hate it?

Well, that's the idea here. Either he avoids being a magical girl, stops being one due to hating it or because he does not agree with what the girls are doing, or suffers because he is forced to do something he hates.

Not that I have not read or wrote fics were Ranma is forced to be female and adapts, but having soup everyday gets tiresome, ya know?
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:42 pm

Allowing one's life to be more bearable, in light of having to deal with something beyond one's control, gets tiresome? That's some messed up reasoning right there. I couldn't be paid an exorbitant sum of money to read that.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Blackcat101 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:46 pm

Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Allowing one's life to be more bearable, in light of having to deal with something beyond one's control, gets tiresome? That's some messed up reasoning right there. I couldn't be paid an exorbitant sum of money to read that.


I was referring to the fact that reading fics were Ranma just accepts being a magical girl and even enjoys it gets tiresome.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:51 pm

That wasn't what I was talking about, though. ;/
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby PCHeintz72 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:42 pm

I should note I actually do not recall all that many stories where Ranma was actually all that eager or willing or *wanting* to actually become a magical girl...

It is after all not all that beyond the realm of reason that he mostly did not wake up each morning wanting more crap thrust onto his life.


Accepting of it and adapting to it in many I can see, simply from a logic standpoint Ranma's entire life has been basically adapt or die...
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Blackcat101 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:46 am

Is not thats he is that willing at first, is that many fics girlify Ranma... and the only time in the manga when Ranma wanted to be a girl, was because he got hit in the head and believed he was one. Ranma gender identity is male, even if he is stuck as female, many fics just ignore that.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10143074/1 ... usei-Ranma is a good example were Ranma tries really hard to go back to being male, and hates magic. It does not fit the request of completely refusing magic, but he is desperate for a cure.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:15 am

He doesn't have to be girly or be hit in the head to accept being a girl. That's exactly what he would have done if events hadn't played out the way that they had with Herb, because he would rather be together with Akane as a girl and not cause her pain with his death.

Blackcat101 wrote: It does not fit the request of completely refusing magic, but he is desperate for a cure.

That's news to me.
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby PCHeintz72 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:22 am

Blackcat101 wrote:Is not thats he is that willing at first, is that many fics girlify Ranma... and the only time in the manga when Ranma wanted to be a girl, was because he got hit in the head and believed he was one. Ranma gender identity is male, even if he is stuck as female, many fics just ignore that.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10143074/1 ... usei-Ranma is a good example were Ranma tries really hard to go back to being male, and hates magic. It does not fit the request of completely refusing magic, but he is desperate for a cure.

Ah.... I stopped reading that story... but not because of that. For something similar but IMHO done a bit better, there is 'Lux Aeterna' by Krahae. Ranma also hated magic in 'Magic Within' by Ryoga's best friend, and 'Mahoranma' by Chibi-Reaper.


How about a bit of a different track... where Ranma hates magical girls because of what they've done to him, or more accurately, done better than him. And because of their dismissal of his abilities, has been given a driving need to be better than them...

There is an AA thread, called 'Ranma GXP' that might or might not appeal, as it is not so much about a hate of magic per se, but a hate of how he was dismissed by magical girls... so he is given a self made goal to prove himself in both his eyes, and their eyes... it actually ties in to Setsuna trying to get rid of him, but at each time making the situation worse... Ranma finally gets believed by of all things the Galaxy Police by Tenchi Muyo.


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Come to think of it, there are some Oh My Goddess crossovers where he becomes despondent and resentful over magic in his life, to the point he refuses to believe or make a wish. And at least one where the gods force him into a connection with them for his own good... I recall one were te goddesses are listing the magical encounters Ranma had talking among themselves with Keiichi in the room and he comments 'and Ranma is only coming to your attention now'

Most of those come with the overall theme of him being right.

One in particular stands out as a antithesis to what you want, were he hates the gods and goddesses and demons, but sides with broken magical girls against them all... 'Prices Paid' by Ar-Kaos
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Re: Fics were Ranma conpletely refuses being a magic girl?

Postby HopeSeiketsu » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:50 am

There is an AA thread, called 'Ranma GXP' that might or might not appeal, as it is not so much about a hate of magic per se, but a hate of how he was dismissed by magical girls... so he is given a self made goal to prove himself in both his eyes, and their eyes... it actually ties in to Setsuna trying to get rid of him, but at each time making the situation worse... Ranma finally gets believed by of all things the Galaxy Police by Tenchi Muyo.


Is that in the Setsunas Fault tree? Cause if so about where in the tree should I start, it is a rather LARGE and branching AAdventure after all?


Edit: never mind I think I found it my self. Though it DOES seem familiar and at the same time different than what I am thinking. Oh well I might have read a fanfic based off of it once or something.

Come to think of it, there are some Oh My Goddess crossovers where he becomes despondent and resentful over magic in his life, to the point he refuses to believe or make a wish. And at least one where the gods force him into a connection with them for his own good... I recall one were te goddesses are listing the magical encounters Ranma had talking among themselves with Keiichi in the room and he comments 'and Ranma is only coming to your attention now'


Also links please, or at least some names of stories and hopefully authors please
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