Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto

[Cheb]

The manga "Stars", as I said before, is a massacre. 98% difference in plot.

[Zwzn]

A moment, plz, I'll exctract the video fragment...
Ok, while VirtualDub does its dirty work, I'll answer some questions.
When the person's Star Seed is taken, the person effectively dies. Just vanishes into thin air.
When Uranus & Neptune pulled their trick, *all* Inners were already killed in this manner. Pluto and Saturn were on their knees, beaten, the Time Staff and Silence Glaive shattered (so, these tools aren't indestructible).
Galaxia admitted that it was *she* who awakened saturn and forced her growth - in order to harvest her Star Seed.
Silence Glaive Surprize proved to be absolutely inefficient against Galaxia -- she was immensely more powerful than saturn.
The animamates (including Galaxia) are held on this plane of existence only by Galaxia's bracers. When re took these from sailor Iron Mouse, Sailor Iron Mouse evaporated. I.e. animamates are, you can say, zombies.

Silence Glaive Surprize doesn't look to be an actual attack. It seems more a stun attack. It shouldn't have been able to kill Galaxia, or am I miss remembering something, and wasn't Saturn getting up unharmed, and looking read for round two.

[Cheb]

Saturn was interrupted before she could finish her spell and strike -- otherwise she'll be dead as a brick, because in the anime Canon using Silence Glaive Surprize kills her.

[Seraphim]

^_^ precise, concise and straight to the point just how I like it. Thx

*bows grandly* Your welcome!
Though, to be honest I wasn't feeling very flowery when I wrote it.

[P.H. Wise]

Saturn was interrupted before she could finish her spell and strike -- otherwise she'll be dead as a brick, because in the anime Canon using Silence Glaive Surprize kills her.

Not necessarily. There seems to be a difference between using the Silence Glaive Surprise and unleashing the power of death. The attack that she has that destroys planets (and, by necessity, kills her) is neither Silence Glaive Surprise nor Death Reborn Revolution. To use her strongest attack, all she actually needs to do is bring down the Silence Glaive with the intent to use it in that way.

[Metroidvania]

It depends on the source you use.
in the oracle, neither manga nor anime mentions that using SGS will kill her, but I have read it in other sites...
According to my site, neither Death Reborn Revolution nor SGS will kill Saturn,
Instead, Bringing Ruin to the World is the one that kills her.

Bringing ruin to the world
Sailor Saturn's power which is used in Act 33, Volume 10. All that Sailor Saturn must do to bring about the destruction of the world is to bring down her Silence Glaive. This attack requires no spoken words, and it is not related to Sailor Saturn's "Death Reborn Revolution" attack. It is used only the manga, although it is spoken about in the anime.

[lwf58]

Not necessarily. There seems to be a difference between using the Silence Glaive Surprise and unleashing the power of death. The attack that she has that destroys planets (and, by necessity, kills her) is neither Silence Glaive Surprise nor Death Reborn Revolution. To use her strongest attack, all she actually needs to do is bring down the Silence Glaive with the intent to use it in that way.

That's right. I don't know of any attacks that Saturn has which would result in her own death. Sailor Pluto is destroyed if she interferes with time.
Saturn's attacks and defenses are:
Death Reborn Revolution
Sailor Saturn's attack which is used to drain the energy from Pharaoh 90 in Act 33, Volume 10. This attack does not bring about the destruction of the world, and it's only used in that one scene. She never uses it again.
Bringing ruin to the world
Sailor Saturn's power which is used in Act 33, Volume 10. All that Sailor Saturn must do to bring about the destruction of the world is to bring down her Silence Glaive. This attack requires no spoken words, and it is not related to Sailor Saturn's "Death Reborn Revolution" attack. It is used only the manga, although it is spoken about in the anime.
Silence Wall
Sailor Saturn's defense which is used to protect herself and others against the attacks of opponents. It appears first in Act 39, Volume 14.
Silence Glaive Surprise
Sailor Saturn's attack which first appears in Act 39, Volume 14. This is her most commonly used attack power.
Galactica Glaive Surprise
An attack used by evil Sailor Saturn when she and the other senshi were reincarnated as evil senshi by Galaxia. It appears only in the manga in Act 50, Volume 18.
Galactica Cannon
An attack used by evil Sailor Saturn in conjuction with evil Sailor Pluto when they were reincarnated by Galaxia. It appears only in the manga in Act 50, Volume 18.
Galactica Planet Attack
The attack used by Evil Sailor Saturn and the Evil Sailor Senshi when they were reincarnated by Galaxia. This attack is used only in the manga, in Act 50, Volume 18.

[Metroidvania]

Bringing ruin to the world
Sailor Saturn has the ability to bring ruin to the world simpy by bringing down her Silence Glaive. This maneuver requires no spoken words, and is only talked about in the anime, but NOT performed. If she uses this attack, she must die.

From what I presume to be the same site, from the anime information...
Is the death part of Bringing Ruin mentioned in the manga, then? Or just anime?...
And on your first sentence, isn't Pluto only dead from _stopping_ time?

[lwf58]

I am quoting the info from The Oracle.
Sorry... Don't know the answer to your first question, and I'm too buried in work right now to look for it.
As for Pluto, you are correct. But Time Stop is the only time-related power she has. She's forbidden to use the Time Gates herself. She can only approve or prevent other people using them, such as allowing Chibi-Usa to travel to the past, or allowing the Senshi to travel forward during the Death Phantom arc. So when I said "interfering with time", Time Stop is what I meant.

[P.H. Wise]

From what I presume to be the same site, from the anime information...
Is the death part of Bringing Ruin mentioned in the manga, then? Or just anime?...
And on your first sentence, isn't Pluto only dead from _stopping_ time?

I believe so. If Sailor Pluto stops time, she dies.

[Seraphim]

I am quoting the info from The Oracle.
Sorry... Don't know the answer to your first question, and I'm too buried in work right now to look for it.
As for Pluto, you are correct. But Time Stop is the only time-related power she has. She's forbidden to use the Time Gates herself. She can only approve or prevent other people using them, such as allowing Chibi-Usa to travel to the past, or allowing the Senshi to travel forward during the Death Phantom arc. So when I said "interfering with time", Time Stop is what I meant.

You could make her Chronos Typhoon related to the timespace portion of her powers.
EDIT: This where I got the above idea from.

Also, in regard to Pluto's unseen attack, the Chronos Cyclone: this is most likely the result of her creating a small local region where space-time is distorted. In effect, it's like a whirlwind of quantum foam fluctuations that result in bits and pieces of the affected area being a few nanoseconds before or after the "normal" time. This would cause serious damage to an enemy's internal organs, since it would basically cut them to shreds with a whirling storm of zero-thickness blades made of space-time discontinuities.

And Sailor Moon Millennials

[P.H. Wise]

Pluto's powers actually seem to be based on her association with the Underworld more than they are on her association with Time. She introduces herself as the Senshi of the 'Star of the Underworld,' and her attack is called 'Dead Scream...' She just happens to be the bearer of the Garnet Rod (time staff) and is tasked with guarding the Time Gate to prevent it from being used is all. *shrugs*

[Zwzn]

From what I presume to be the same site, from the anime information...
Is the death part of Bringing Ruin mentioned in the manga, then? Or just anime?...
And on your first sentence, isn't Pluto only dead from _stopping_ time?

All the Saturn will die from using her powers come from a speach she gives at the end of season 3(S). We really don't know how truthful she was being when she gave it. Given her character she may have been lieing to try and not have to worry about others during her fight. Remember She was going to fight something likely more powerful then Death Phantom. The is also a chance Usagi was draining energy from Saturn during the fight with P90. Hotaru dieing from using her powers is not backed up by anything on screen. Pluto dieing from time stop is similar.

[Metroidvania]

Time Stop
an attack of Sailor Pluto's that is described as being the ultimate taboo. She was warned against using this attack by Queen Selenity since she first began her service at the Time Gate. Because she used this attack, which manipulates time and space, she was forced to give up her life. Thus when she used this attack in Act 23, she sacrificed her own life in order to save the world. She was laid to rest in the crystal tower in Crystal Tokyo, but is reincarnated later in the series. No words are actually spoken to perform this Time Stop, but time does stop

I'm almost certain Sailor Pluto does use the attack to prevent Uranus and Neptune from dying in the helicopter attack.
And then is reborn later from the Ginzuishou
Or, if you believe Wiki....

While Neptune and Uranus were safely teleported onto the building, Pluto was thrown into a dimensional rift, and did not re-emerge until much later (skipping an entire season in the anime version). It is uncertain if she wound up in the rift due to the nature of the power or as a punishment for using it.

[Sailor Sedai (Ellf)]

Pluto dying from Time Stop is indeed backed up from something on screen, considering in R, she did die from stopping time. She was reborn in S as Setsuna Meiou, (Oddly enough it was the same pluto from Crystal Tokyo in the R arc. She had those memories. Which makes me wonder was she reborn just so that she could die in those parts or is the Pluto from Crystal Tokyo the one from the Silver Millennium that Dies in R?)
Anyway, I digress... Stopping time indeed kills Pluto and it is the only thing power shown that any of the senshi have that kills themselves.
However, Saturn reverted to a baby form after Death Reborn Revolution on the Pharaoh 90 dimension, possibly because she used up all her energy. This is an area where the anime screwed up when they transcribed the manga. They left Suichi Tomoe alive when at the beginning of Stars she is supposed to be with Uranus and Neptune. That's why they went to get her at the very beginning.
Again I digress, but I hope what I posted was helpful.