Untitled Batman Beyond Crossover

[toushin]

ranma has alot of control over himself which seems to be the main reason he is able to ignore all of the things that happen to him. thats why i think the neko-ken wouldn't have played that big of a role, he was the one that was the cat girl so while freaking him out it wouldn't have effected him as much. yet if he saw someone else with that level of splicing he might just freeze in place. also he never went full cat terry saved him just in time, if he had went full cat then the neko-ken would have played a part. it reminds me of the fanfic bangel tale. ranma was cursed to turn into a tiger. while this gave him full control over the neko-ken the longer he stayed in the tiger form the more humanity he lost eventually leaving nothing but his core personalilty in the shell of a beast.

plus are you staying with the black and grey hair or are you going to change it back to black for a boy and red for a girl. i cant see ranma being a new robin, or putting on a costume period unless its a bandana over his head. at most he might be a more active version of max and with that black and grey striped hair is pretty noticable. also would he want to walk aroung like that.

[LawOhki]

plus are you staying with the black and grey hair or are you going to change it back to black for a boy and red for a girl. i cant see ranma being a new robin, or putting on a costume period unless its a bandana over his head. at most he might be a more active version of max and with that black and grey striped hair is pretty noticable. also would he want to walk aroung like that.

The hair will stay a mix of silver/gray, radical hair colors are fairly common among teenagers in the BB era. There's actually a girl in the same class as Ranma who has pure white hair and Max has bright pink.

Ranma won't ever be the new robin or sidekick to Batman.

[Neko-]

Okay... I stand corrected on the eyes

[LawOhki]

Altered Ranma's mental descriptions of the facial changes.

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‘Guess it’s not done.’ She amended, watching her hair turn shades of white and gray starting at the roots to the tips.

Like the tiger spliced girl who Ranma had met at the Chimera building, Ranma’s face had shifted, her nose flattening along the bridge, and semi melding with her upper lip, where a false cleft ran from the center of her nose to her upper lip. Her eyes had changed to a golden color with a slight hint of their original blue around the iris. Their shape had also been altered, becoming more of a true almond shape, with the skin pigment being darker around them, coming to points at the far outside, and another curving downwards on the inside.

Prodding her new nose with her fingers, she found that the nails on her hands had lengthened, becoming thick white claws. Feeling a shiver run down her back, she twisted on the seat and found that there were dark skin pigment spots running down the back of her neck. Pulling off her shirt and stripping down to her white tanktop, she found that they grew into bigger irregularly shaped spots and rings as they ran down her back. Along the outside of her arms they faded into nothing just past her elbows.

Examining herself further in the mirror, to take in the entire set of changes, she realized something. “That jackass turned me into some kind of cat.” She growled in an overly animalistic way.

[toushin]

ranma would probably end up as a more active version of max. i think this simply becuase with the way ranma acts i can see max mistaking him for the joker gang leader then terry and when when that proves false what is the next likely outcome.

like i said seeing her self like that would be different for ranma then seeing someone else.

[Karei]

One more thing about the neko-ken, without the Tendo's, and Kuno's fixation on finding his weakspot, it never became public knowledge. That means he didn't have extra added traumatic experiences to help his fear.

Look at Ranma's reaction after finding himself surrounded by cats the first time, he was loopy, but he didn't scream and run in terror. Later on a single cat surprising him is enough to send him running for the hills. Obviously this is Takahashi using it for cheap thrills, but I'm going with the theory that the over exposure early on upped his sensitivity.

The trauma was never lessened by time. Perhaps over time and because of those events, he had different reactions to the presence of cats, but his reaction was no less extreme the first time we saw it than the last.

Just look at the first time he encountered a cat in Nerima. It's probably been years since the nekoken was activated, but Ranma screams in pure terror and becomes paralyzed with fear.

Of course this interferes with your scenario, so I ignored it, but by the severity of his phobia, he should by all rights be freaking out completely from even just seeing catlike features on himself, much less completely becoming a cat. He wouldn't need "upped sensitivity" due to exposure in Nerima for it. That should be his default reaction.

Examining herself further in the mirror, to take in the entire set of changes, she realized something. “That jackass turned me into some kind of cat.” She growled in an overly animalistic way.

This reaction is far too mild for even "early Nerima" level of nekoken.

ranma has alot of control over himself which seems to be the main reason he is able to ignore all of the things that happen to him. thats why i think the neko-ken wouldn't have played that big of a role, he was the one that was the cat girl so while freaking him out it wouldn't have effected him as much. yet if he saw someone else with that level of splicing he might just freeze in place. also he never went full cat terry saved him just in time, if he had went full cat then the neko-ken would have played a part. it reminds me of the fanfic bangel tale. ranma was cursed to turn into a tiger. while this gave him full control over the neko-ken the longer he stayed in the tiger form the more humanity he lost eventually leaving nothing but his core personalilty in the shell of a beast.

But when it comes to cats, Ranma's control over himself completely evaporates. A reason like, "He can't see the features (because most of them are on his face and head,) so he's not as affected by them," is just not going to cut it. He gets jumpy at even just the hint of a cat nearby. If he knows there's something catlike on his face, he's going to be more than just annoyed.
Though I do agree that he could probably keep himself together as long as he didn't get completely transformed, and the nekoken wouldn't come out until then.



Let me put rephrase my point of view:
The nekoken is one of the major traits that makes Ranma Ranma, possibly second only to the curse itself. The way you've glossed over one of Ranma's major traits, in a scenario where it should play prominently, is like having Ranma never getting cursed. Without a solid reason for it, it just doesn't feel like Ranma anymore.

It's by no means a story-breaker. I'm not going to stop reading because of it. It's just disappointing, as I've said before.


My advice is this:
If you're dead-set on the nekoken not making an actual appearance, as you seem to be, (as opposed to just being referenced in dialogue or having a "near miss") you should at the very least come up with a more plausible reason that it doesn't come up in this situation and then integrate that reason into the story. Make it prominent too, so it's not easily missed.
Perhaps he was rescued from the nekoken training before it could become too severe, but not before he developed a strong "dislike" for cats? (Perhaps not this reason exactly because you've already written ahead to an instance where it comes up. This is just an example of one possible reason.)

Crap, this keeps getting longer and longer, so I'm going to end the post here. At least think about my advice, instead of dismissing it outright. I'm just trying to help you iron out what I feel is a major hole in your plot. Otherwise, what's the point of posting here in the C&C?

[LawOhki]

Just look at the first time he encountered a cat in Nerima. It's probably been years since the nekoken was activated, but Ranma screams in pure terror and becomes paralyzed with fear.

First instance, Ranma finds himself literally up close and grabbing a house cat, what his phobia requires to kick in.
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/48 ... ?t=38&n=27

His phobia is very much for house cats only. Several times he has no problem being around a tiger, and even has no problem with Shampoo when she was turning into a cat, with just as many cat like features as this Ranma has.

He named his ki attack, iirc, something describing a tiger.

Has no reaction to Shampoo surprising him with a tiger where as any surprise from a housecat sends him screaming.
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/4887-10.html?t=38&n=96

He was able to approach Shampoo who was turning into a house cat up until the Mao Mo Lin licked him. Later when she was basically a cat he had trouble.
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/4887-20.html?t=38&n=127
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/4887-20.html?t=38&n=128

Ranma being around a tiger without issue.
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/4887-35.html?t=38&n=176

The only time he's had problems with a big cat, is when he was already surrounded by housecats. In which case everyone was scared.
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/48 ... ?t=38&n=50
http://www.maxmanga.com/online_manga/48 ... ?t=38&n=51


If I did change anything I would have Ranma simply block out the type of creature he looks like. As I posted the pictures of Tigress on the last page, Ranma doesn't look that cat like, unlike when Dana was in checking out splicing they showed off a very cat like face.

[Karei]

If I did change anything I would have Ranma simply block out the type of creature he looks like. As I posted the pictures of Tigress on the last page, Ranma doesn't look that cat like, unlike when Dana was in checking out splicing they showed off a very cat like face.

That could work. If the features aren't too prominent, I can picture Ranma blocking them out of her mind in order to cope.