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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar R » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:39 pm

I seriously doubt that the Kuonji family didn't have another source of income or, at least, didn't have a lot of money saved up. How else would Ukyo have been able to afford to purchase (rent?) and run a new restaurant? I mean, even her father didn't seemto have that.

As for the heart of the matter... I'm sure there was some child abuse. But, so what? There's a bit of it in most families, depending on what you consider to be child abuse. Even I've experienced some child abuse. I think the key issue, here, is that Genma does it out of ignorance rather than out of intention. It's the same thing in regard to torture: he didn't put his son through physical and mental anguish for the sake of it, but for the sake of training. Not all forms of training are easy, and can be demanding on the practitioner. Put that into the context of this fictional universe and, really, Ranma's fine. He has only shown to have one traumatic instance, the neko-ken training. Otherwise, he's not like Ryoga, who's often woeful about things of the past. The fact that Ranma is vengeful when his father appears to be weaker than him, for what he did in the past, is just classic Ranma behavior and doesn't illustrate how badly his father denied him food. Seeing as Ranma has made it through his training while losing out on some of the food, and turning out fine and healthy, suggests that there's nothing to worry about in this regard. Personally, I think he only took food from Ranma when it was the last of it, or if it were an extra acquisition outside from their usual rations. Mean, yes, but no big deal.
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:29 pm

This is just something that I've been wondering. Nodoka as a grandchild fanatic is perhaps the most well-entrenched fanon characterization, greater even then "Akane the Psychotically Bad Tempered" or "Nabiki, the financial support". But, how do you think she would, canonically, react to either the news she's going to be a grandmother at last, or being presented with her first granddaughter/grandson?

And would her reaction be any different if the mother was not Akane?

Note that, by the second question, I'm referring to the possibility of Ranma's heart drifting to a different girl, or some kind of love spell actually working (at least in terms of making him have sex with someone besides Akane): all of Nodoka's canon behavior evidences that she would demand Ranma commit seppuku if he "got pregnant", at best giving him a slight reprieve by first demanding that he get an abortion. Remember, this is a woman who was ready to cut him down for believed crossdressing without even waiting for an explanation - despite the fact there's actually a 'manly' tradition of crossdressing as part of being a (noh? kabuki?) actor.
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby LawOhki » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 pm

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:This is just something that I've been wondering. Nodoka as a grandchild fanatic is perhaps the most well-entrenched fanon characterization, greater even then "Akane the Psychotically Bad Tempered" or "Nabiki, the financial support". But, how do you think she would, canonically, react to either the news she's going to be a grandmother at last, or being presented with her first granddaughter/grandson?

And would her reaction be any different if the mother was not Akane?

Extreme joy because her son was being manly.

Who's the mother, would be a secondary concern. From some of her comments, she only really focuses on Akane, because she doesn't know about anyone else, or blocks it out. She did meet Kodachi, Shampoo, and Ukyo, yet she was all in for getting Ranma and Akane married at the first opportunity.
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:06 pm

Do you think she'd then seriously warn him that the true measure of manliness is being a good father, or that it takes a real man to be a good father, or something like that? Just out of curiosity.

While the other question is still open (I like hearing people's opinions), I was just wondering: does Hinako's "base form" (that is, child form) age after she got that Happo Satsu pressure point regime? I know that absorbing battle aura, when she appears in the series, restores her to her true chronological appearance, but has her child form gotten any older since she first met Happosai?

If it has, exactly what is likely to happen to her aging as she keeps getting older? Will she age slowly in her base form, but revert to an old hag if she uses her Happo Satsu trick? Or will her 'other form' slow in its own aging as her base form catches up, until they reach an equilibrium and she'll stop changing forms at all if she drains aura, as there's no longer any physical change?
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Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby timdraco » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:53 pm

U know now that i think about it is there even a real backstory about the pools of sorrow and how it came to be?

I was rereading my manga and watching the ranma movies but i cant really be sure that they ever mention it.

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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby LawOhki » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:02 pm

timdraco wrote:U know now that i think about it is there even a real backstory about the pools of sorrow and how it came to be?

I was rereading my manga and watching the ranma movies but i cant really be sure that they ever mention it.

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The magical waters with there source under Jusendo fill pools in the valley below, and the water creates the Jusenkyo effect of body switching.

That's about it.
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby timdraco » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:23 pm

Hmm interesting but i kinda wanted the back story like who made the magical waters and why. probably something to do with the pheonix people and saffron but it would make a good story. (hint hint wink wink)

Thanks though for pointing that out for me, it was helpful.

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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:18 am

Sorry, but there's no real backstory to Jusenkyo; other then the fact that the magic is tied to the groundwaters that flow under Jusendo (and the anime says that, every so often, in accordance with their own mystical cycles, the groundwater can "reach out" to some specific water hole at any point in the world, allowing that pond or river or whatever to temporarily serve as whatever Jusenkyo spring(s) you want), that each body-switching curse is based on a creature that fell into a "blank" spring (and multiple creatures create mixed up curses - a yeti, an ox, a crane and an eel created a spring whose victims turn into, basically, flying minotaurs), and it's extremely hard to shake the curse off (admittedly, the Ranma cast hasn't run into many, if any, curse-breaker type magics and there's always something that pops up to spoil efforts to use real Jusenkyo water), nothing is mentioned.

Actually, it wouldn't have been the creation of the Phoenix People - Jusenkyo created them, not the other way around. Saffron's origin is more mysterious, but the basic bird-folk he rules over are the results of generations spent using a Jusenkyo Spring of Drowned Bird for cooking, laundry, and drinking water. It says so at one point in their story arc; I think after Plum makes it to Japan, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby Kilich » Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:17 am

I want to continue my FSN\Ranma crossover and I have a question.
How do you think, can Ki attacks harm purely magical beings, like Servants from Fate\stay night?
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby toushin » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:11 pm

you could consider saffron as purly magical mountain size fireballs, regeneration, reincarnation, etc and he took a pretty good beating from ranma's ki attacks
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:41 pm

You honestly could go either way. On one hand, ki is explicitly not magic in the Ranmaverse - it's a natural energy produced by all things, it takes skill to use it, but it can't do everything. On the other, it is a "mystical" power, in the sense you can do things with it that are otherwise impoissible (split into multiple clones -Cologne's splitting cat hairs, Konatsu's thousand praises- punch through steel, outrun a car, shrug off a blow to the skull, heal a broken limb in minutes), so it's possible that it might work.

The main thing is that Ranma doesn't actually use "ki attacks" that much; his Moko Takabisha is very situational and in fact pretty much becomes worthless the more his opponent fights back, unlike the Shishi Hokodan, which gets easier to use the longer a fight drags out. His only other "ki attack" is the Hiryu Shoten Ha, which basically uses some underlying ki energy to physically manipulate the wind. Ranma's main usage of ki is to power up his body so he can beat his opponent into submission with his bare hands.
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby three headed dog » Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:54 pm

He can always just switch to a dominate emotion since he can do it with Depression, Confidence, once angry (unnamed blast at Genma) and was practicing with various other emotions (all of which were part of a joke involving puns that doesn't translate well).

There is nothing stopping Ranma from using them, making new variations, and coming up with new techniques except the use of them is overkill in just about all the fights he gets into and he tends to fight at what he perceives to be his opponents level (he tends to not overpower his opponents or speedblitz them even when it is shown he could. For example, fight with Tatewaki he could have blitzed him at anytime but instead chose to draw out the battle).
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:37 am

In the first anime filler episode, Kin Ono introduces us to one of the weirdest contests used to determine "winners" in matters of conflicting engagement, in the form of Pelvic Fortune Telling. Based in Mrs. Ono's fanatic obsession with healthy pelvic bones, which she insists result in strong, healthy children and plenty of them, the 'contest' is simple. The two girls get up on a small podium and stand back to back; a short musical ditty is played and then the two simulataneously shove their backsides against each other; the one with the stronger pelvis will knock the other one off of the podium, as shown when Kin (a realistic Miniature Senior Citizen) manages to send Genma-panda flying through the air and impale his head through a door. Presumably, in a large "mixup matchup" like what Ranma has, the girls would organise in teams of two, and then the winners of those initial "bouts" would compete, until only one girl remained.

Now, I know that there is absolutely no way in hell that the four girls after Ranma (Akane, Kodachi, Shampoo, Ukyo) would agree to go along with something like this to settle things once and for all (even they have their limits, right?), but I was wondering... if they somehow did, which girl do you think would prove to have the 'luckiest pelvis'?
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar R » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:38 pm

Just thought I'd share this, for the humorous song within.

Anyway, if Kodachi doesn't get away with cheating, I'd have to say that Shampoo would win. For one, she'd be the least embarrassed, next to Kodachi. That lends itself to one's concentration, and thus one's efficiency. Plus, Shampoo is probably the strongest of the lot, which is ideal if she thrusts her backside at the same time as her opponent, if not sooner. And if it gets sillier than that, where they dodge with their rumps in addition to thrusting them, only Shampoo and Kodachi would be good at being that flexible while maintaining their balance, since Akane's as graceful as a boulder rolling down a bumpy hill and Ukyo has shown too much focus in her upper body and the use of her weapons of choice.

That's my opinion, anyway.
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Re: General Questions mk 2

Postby Southern Cross » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:59 pm

Which makes it a bum test (literally and figuratively) as Shampoo and Kodachi are the two fiancées Ranma least wants (especially,in Shampoo's case,after the events on Mount Phoenix).
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