REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby LawOhki » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:49 pm

frice2000 wrote:Needed slightly more torturing and I would have liked to see exactly what she was showing him that made him break down so easily. The eating him portion was a nice touch though however it would've been neater and scarier if she had enveloped him rather then simply chomping on him. The first thing that came to my mind was 'you are what you eat' and having this abortive feeding have some sort of side effect.

It was just sound and darkness and the force of Ranma's presence snapping his mind like a twig.

There's an omake written up and here it is.

Omake: What if Ranma was forced to eat Edward By Catonfire

Walter: *grin* Welcome back Miss Saotome, you're looking sparkly this evening.

Ranma: *grumbles* It's indigestion that's all.

*Ceras walks in* Ceras: ...? Is that body glitter?

Ranma: Grrrrr....

*Ranma hurries out of the room*

Alucard: HAHAHAHAhahahahaha!

Ranma: Master No Baka! *Wham!*
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby Siden » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:04 pm

I can hardly wait for more to be posted. What errors or needed tweeks I found have already been pointed out, but for some reason I feel that the “Why are you hitting yourself?” during the fight would be funnier with some added derogatory comments towards his mental state and/or his sexual prefferences (eg: is he emo or a masochist?).
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby frice2000 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:19 am

Hrmmm...combine the Twilight vampires lack of reaction to sunlight and blessed items get rid of the sparkling, and add the Hellsing vampires powers put in blender and mix on high...And you've got vampires with next to no weaknesses but far more likely to engage in technical pedophilia and emo-ness I think it'd be worth the trade-off! I mean hell what would happen if Ranma tried to turn a human while they were in the process of turning into the Twilight type vampire? Hybrid action! You'd make like a emo sparkly Jar-Jar Binxish level of annoying version of Blade. Also, what if Ranma tried to turn a Twilight vamp that was still a virgin...Oh wait can't really digest their 'blood' oh well.

Anyway, that was a very cute omake. Alucard laughing hysterically was it's highlight.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:23 am

Anyone have some Brain Bleach handy and maybe some ammonia to mix with it so I can forget frice's suggestion?
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby JustinD » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:12 am

frice2000 wrote:Needed slightly more torturing and I would have liked to see exactly what she was showing him that made him break down so easily.

I thought of it as a directed fear aura and not so much as images of doom.

Spokavriel wrote: Anyone have some Brain Bleach handy and maybe some ammonia to mix with it so I can forget frice's suggestion?

Try Drano it has ammonia in it. But you got to admit the omake was funny in simplicity.

Edit: I just realised that Alucard is Dracula spelt backward, even more shaming is that it had taken Wikipedia spelling it out for me to realise that. On this note it could be cool if Ranma did an evil speech referring to it or even mentioned it casually, since they would be way more likely to recognise the name Dracula then Alucard.
"you dare to stand against a child of Dracula himself, you are either very brave or fools. MWAhAhAh"(yes yes, way to over dramatic for Ranma but maybe she felt playful)
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby LawOhki » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:45 am

JustinD wrote:Edit: I just realised that Alucard is Dracula spelt backward, even more shaming is that it had taken Wikipedia spelling it out for me to realise that. On this note it could be cool if Ranma did an evil speech referring to it or even mentioned it casually, since they would be way more likely to recognise the name Dracula then Alucard.
"you dare to stand against a child of Dracula himself, you are either very brave or fools. MWAhAhAh"(yes yes, way to over dramatic for Ranma but maybe she felt playful)

Canonically Ranma does ham things up a lot. Such as when Mousse returned with the duck spring water.
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That said, Ranma doesn't use others to make himself look better and I'm still not sure how much Ranma/Ceres have found out about Alucard's past.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby JustinD » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:13 am

LawOhki wrote:That said, Ranma doesn't use others to make himself look better and I'm still not sure how much Ranma/Ceres have found out about Alucard's past.

From what I can tell this side story is a couple of years after the current point in the main story, plenty of time for Ranma/Ceres to find out if Alucard is willing.
Mainly because you have Ranma telling Bella that she's 20(unless she was lying,for all we know she could now be 30 and not look a day older then when she was turned(17)).
“But you’re so young.” Bella brought up. “How are you a-- Special Agent.”

“I’m twenty and I have special talents.”

And in chapter 9 you say she is high school age. (where I'm from 17 years old is the senior year)
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Edit:I just made my meaning a bit clearer.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:25 am

Guess you never saw Son of Dracula. And really because I played around with names like that when I was little I knew Alucard was Dracula backwards before I ever found out that it was used as a name for anyone the same day I first saw anything including the character Dracula. I haven't seen it in Helsing but do they work with any of those movie continuities such as Son of Dracula? Because in theory that could make children of Alucard grand children of Dracula.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby JustinD » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:32 am

According to Wikipedia,
It is stated in volume 8 of the manga, that he is Count Dracula. Soon after the events in the book, Van Helsing somehow gains control of Dracula, renaming him Alucard (Dracula backwards) and leaves him as a servant of the Hellsing family.

The series mentions the events of Bram Stoker's Dracula, but deviate at the point of Dracula's defeat. In Hellsing, he was staked in the heart but not destroyed. It is unknown if he was forced into servitude or was willing, but he became a servant of the Van Helsing family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alucard_(Hellsing)
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby LawOhki » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:42 am

JustinD wrote:From what I can tell this side story is a couple of years after the current point in the main story, plenty of time for Ranma/Ceres to find out if Alucard is willing.
Mainly because you have Ranma telling Bella that she's 20(unless she was lying,for all we know she could now be 30 and not look a day older).

And in chapter 9 you say she is high school age. (where I'm from 17 years old is the senior year)

Chronologically, Ranma is 20 years old. I wanted it to be sometime past the events of the main story, while not being decades past, since obviously that amount of time is going to change personalities in wildly varying way. Although not that much for a vampire.

However, Ranma is eternally stuck between 17 and 18. This is mentioned in chapter 5 when Ranma and Ceres were tailing Steadler.

"I'm eighteen and she's twenty one." He answered adding one year to his age.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby frice2000 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:59 am

The odd thing about the Hellsing canon is that you have pretty advanced shape shifting as one of their abilties so it seems strange to me that they can't make changes to their human forms to make themselves appear older. Psychologically the same age for all eternity I agree with but physically they should be able to look like whatever age they want. True it does seem to be cannon that they can't do this though,'Girlycard' looks nowhere near the age of Alucard's normal form and when he goes all Vlad the Impaler he looks older then his male form. So, I think you could change that if you really felt like it using either of those examples as a get out of canon free card.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:02 am

Or its just that when you are not in an altered form its just that an unaltered form. Having a look of a different age is altered. Plain and simple.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby JustinD » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:04 am

frice2000 wrote:The odd thing about the Hellsing canon is that you have pretty advanced shape shifting as one of their abilties so it seems strange to me that they can't make changes to their human forms to make themselves appear older. Psychologically the same age is all well and good but physically they should be able to look like whatever age they want in my opinion. But it seems to be cannon that they can't do this though,'Girlycard' for example looks nowhere near the age of Alucard's normal form and when he goes all Vlad the Impaler he looks older then his male form. So, I think you could change that if you really felt like it.

I think wearing a form that was not your true form would be like having a small constant itch, tolerable but not pleasant.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby frice2000 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:12 am

Maybe...but Alucard apparently does so pretty much continuously though these changes aren't really that dramatic (mostly some facial hair and slightly older). This fic has stated that Ranma's powers are weaker in her non-true form but why she doesn't want to wear an older form as she ages is slightly strange and why she has never used the ability for 'fun' is also odd. Screwing with her opponents by taking a form they aren't familiar with, weakening herself, and playing with humans by looking older then she actually is all seems to be very in character for the person that Ranma is evolving into in this fanfic. Hell I think Ranma would take Bella's form just to screw with them in this piece.

Not seeing them used and dealing with less respect for her female form is also in character as well I'll admit but I would think anyone would get sick of looking like a teenager eventually especially if they can look older at will. Though, Ranma might just think it's cute to have humans assume she's a weak little girl and then destroy them utterly (but if that's the case why not appear even younger and smaller?)...but then another part of her character would want her enemies to be terrified of her so either interpretation works.
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Re: REN Side Story - Kill the Cullens

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:24 am

She's not making lasting relationships with any of these people so why would she care to waste energy on putting on a front to effect their opinion at all? Its just seems a pointless effort for a mission where those that don't end up dead won't really be worth trying to remember anyway.
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