Mixed Curses.

[Spokavriel]

I know this might not be exactly what the Fic Research area is for but well it is research into one of the Fic Cliché where Ranma ends up getting cursed twice.

How many fics are out there where Ranma gets knocked into the Girl Spring first?

No need to answer that. Its just are there any instances where Ranma ends up in another spring and Genma in a panic asks about a spring that changes animals to human and perhaps dives in with Ranma into the Spring of Drowned girl before getting more than a gesture at it?

Is there any real reason beyond inertia of cannon to defend dunking Ranma in Drowned Girl first?

What are the most creative spring scenarios you have found? And what are some of the fannon conventions that you feel have been overused regarding them?

[PCHeintz72]

Hmmm... wouldn't this be more fic search and not fic research section? No matter.

In any case, this seems close enough that your own search request back in Feb would cover it. You called it: An overly picky Curse Order らんま search.

One that sort of fits, that was not listed in the prior thread, was a fic called R-DBZ 'A legend reborn' by Alexander Fields-Trugeta (he changed his pen name recently), Ranma gets dunked (and locked) in spring of Drowned Broly. Much later, the story splits into two tracks, in the one, Happosai uses Jusenkyo and additional magic to give Ranma a girl curse.

[Spokavriel]

I know thats kinda why I was trying to frame this more as a request for information and opinions on the scarcity of girl Spring = second curse situations.

[Battlekrome]

One of the problems with Ranma 1/2 is mixing or whatever of curses is never truely addressed in Canon.

besides the usage by Pantyhose Taru no curses are ever shown being applied twice

as for fics with girl + other spring....

fairly certain there's at least one or two Ranma + twin pool. (and most doubtably lemons thereof)

Pigtailed Goddess Times Two - Draknor (not sure where to find)

[Spokavriel]

I know but in those many even have the Twin curse used to split off a Girl Type Ranma so that neither of the "twins" has to remember about the Girl Curse.

So may people insist that the Curse Springs are chaotic so I get confused why they end up conforming to the same static events from cannon and usually add twists after Ranma is in the water.

[PCHeintz72]

You may be confusing the concept of authors deliberately wanting to conform to static canon events or being unimaginative with either

1. authors believing 'Ranma is not Ranma without the girl curse'
2. authors catoring to their readers whom believe 'Ranma is not Ranma without the girl curse'
3. authors obsessed with Ranma-chan or authors intending to use Ranma chan so leaving it.
4. lemon writers wanting to obsess on ranma-chan getting some.

[PCHeintz72]

Keep in mind, this very forum is a bit biased in that regard due to its very purpose. We almost never see a Ranma/Sailor moon crossover with Ranma in a fuku without a girl curse (not that it cannot occur, merely that it is exceedingly rare). That is not a knock against the forum, merely a truth. Heck, look at how many stories insist he cannot have the powers of a senshi without being female.

EDIT: I meant for this to go into the prior post, instead I accidentally hit the Reply button

[Spokavriel]

Its ok. But the thing is even with having all the springs as options who's to say the Girl curse couldn't still get inflicted on him in a different order. Or even a different way than cannon events. Even a Gold Digger cross I saw that didn't have Genma at the springs at all still had the opponent kick Ranma into the Spring of Drowned Girl. And with so many throws hits trips etc why is it almost always a kick?

What about Ranma and Genma actually listening to the guide. Maybe even running into Ryouga first that way they aren't so bored when meeting up with the disappointing view of Jusenkyo.

And I figured in the case of double curses with the Girl Curse still involved why isn't there any story with both curses happening in the same trip to Jusenkyo where the Girl curse is secondary.

Just like with Genma being a Panda Girl its usually caused by intentional acts.

[Spokavriel]

Here's another option I've never seen used for mixed curses and more canonically applicable.

Why don't I ever see one of the combatants rip one of the Bamboo plants out of the ground roots and all opening a spill way between two pools causing them to mix before someone gets knocked in?

[PCHeintz72]

Ok... I have seen other methods of getting cursed.

In 'Way of the Ninjitsu' by Jason Wong there is a prolonged battle and trial at Jusenkyo between Ranma and his master. Very epic compared to the simple hit and sink method. In the end I think Ranma is thrown in, not kicked or hit.

In Chapter 2 of the old bet entry 'Civil War 2' by Metroanime they (Ranma and Shampoo) get cursed running through Jusenkyo.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

Its ok. But the thing is even with having all the springs as options who's to say the Girl curse couldn't still get inflicted on him in a different order. Or even a different way than cannon events. Even a Gold Digger cross I saw that didn't have Genma at the springs at all still had the opponent kick Ranma into the Spring of Drowned Girl. And with so many throws hits trips etc why is it almost always a kick?

In Sailor Goddess, Sailor Pluto tried her darndest to land Ranma in a different spring. Eventually she realized that whatever she did, Ranma kept landing in girl-water. So she ran a simulation, and it turned out Ranma would have landed elsewhere were it not for outside interference. Yes, the good old Ultimate Force was up to its usual tricks.

The fanon equivalent of the Ultimate Force is equally powerful.

[Spokavriel]

It just feels like people seem to think that if Ranma doesn't end up in that spring right away from fighting Genma then it shouldn't be getting Ranma wet at all. And I'm trying to figure out why not? They why is simple well that is the way it happened so keeping it that way is less to make someone accept but why not say have a foot slip or something else to get him into another spring first?

[TerraEpon]

Ok... I have seen other methods of getting cursed.

I remember one where Ranma simply gets hit with the girl water being stored in the Nekohanten...

[android33s]

There is a fanfic I beleive it was called Two Tigers Tail that had Ranma cursed with water from spring of drowned girl and
then with spring ofdrowned tiger. In this fic he changed from girl with hot water and a male tiger withcold.

There is also a fic where Ranma gets a double curse of spring of drowned cat and drowned girl
so turns into a catgirl. Which things goes nat fist on Genma

[Spokavriel]

I know and both of those fics go Spring of Drowned Girl first. The whole cat person thing makes more sense to me if Cat were picked up first. Especially in the few fics where Cat ends up carrying over to both curse and natural forms. One fic like that is in Weebee's vault.