Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:34 pm

If I remember correctly, Venus doesn't get that attack until post Beryl (if that matters), and it's made of energy. In the manga she already has it when she arrives, and it's an actual physical chain that she had around/attached (I'm no sure which, but it probably isn't there until summoned anyway) to her waist, much like the time keys were hanging from a chain from Pluto's waist.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:38 pm

Ooh... The second one sounds awesome!

Wait, I thought the giant key was the time gate key.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spokavriel » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:45 pm

There are lesser keys like the one Chibi-usa was given.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:50 pm

Right. The staff is for the Door of Time, whereas the keys send someone to and from the fourth dimension.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:03 pm

Ooh. Ok.

Now, about her age, I heard that she could be as old as time itself but that could be the dimmension thing.

About time travel, isn't Chibiusa really 900 years old, then why is she so immature? And why is she in the past anyway? Isn't that really dangerous? What was Pluto thinking?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spokavriel » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:18 pm

Usagi used her magic to keep Chibi-usa a little girl. Its part of why she's a grown up after being taken in by the Black Moon Clan. It was something denied to her by her mothers desires.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:38 pm

... Ok, WHY? I think that's a bit cruel.

All I can think of is a huge time loop, but that's still mean.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:17 pm

Spokavriel wrote: Usagi used her magic to keep Chibi-usa a little girl. Its part of why she's a grown up after being taken in by the Black Moon Clan. It was something denied to her by her mothers desires.

I may not be nearly as familiar with the anime as I am with the manga, but that's certainly news to me.

The kind that requires evidence. *_*

Noy Telinú wrote:Now, about her age, I heard that she could be as old as time itself but that could be the dimmension thing.

About time travel, isn't Chibiusa really 900 years old, then why is she so immature? And why is she in the past anyway? Isn't that really dangerous? What was Pluto thinking?

Pluto's age? It's unknown. All that's known, as far as the manga goes (as I don't recall if it was covered in the anime), was that she wasn't an adult in appearance (I put it that way since appearance isn't guaranteed to be an accurate measure of age in Sailor Moon) when Queen Serenity gave her the task of guarding the Door of Time. And Queen Serenity herself is so old that she was around when the solar system was still forming.

Chibi-Usa is said to be nine-hundred years old in the second story arc. Why she still behaves like a child is anyone's guess, but it could be reasoned that her mentality was stunted along with her body. Why that was stunted is also an unknown, but it seems like she had to learn some kind of lesson (which she had upon Pluto's death, and is how she went back to normal from being Black/Wicked Lady), both to mature and in order to become a sailor senshi. In all likelihood, all of those things are tied together.

She went to the past because of the attack on Crystal Tokyo, and of having heard stories of Sailor Moon in the past (and how awesome she is). Because of her close relationship with Pluto, Pluto probably hadn't expected her to steal one of her keys, which is how she was able to go to the past.

Also, since knowing this might be nice to know, Chibi-Usa had to put up with teasing, possibly bullying, and being thought of as an illegitimate or adoptive child because she wasn't growing up or becoming anything like the queen. That was likely the situation for hundreds of years, and in the end she felt that Pluto was her one and only friend, doubting her parents' love for her because she felt that they were either too busy for her or not supportive enough when they weren't. As a guess, I doubt that the negative feelings that had developed from that (and gave Wiseman the opportunity to corrupt her) would have helped her to mature, and possibly prevented her from becoming a sailor senshi as well. (The Sailor Moon series, particularly in relation to the Ginzuishou, is big on the positive feelings of the heart.)
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:25 pm

... They REALLY arent human are they?

Mentally a child for hundreds of years... Holly... Wait, so is the reason they don't grow super old is that they aren't mentally like that?

Hmmm...

Now when you say the game breaker crystal works on positive emotion, I believe that is true, from a certain point of view. A lot of emotions I can argue are positive from a certain point if view.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:48 pm

If you take into consideration that Queen Serenity isn't native to the Milky Way galaxy, and assumed that the sailor senshi were born on their respective celestial objects, then yeah: they're pretty much aliens. XD

In the future, ordinary humans could live up to a thousand years and not look old, thanks to the Ginzuishou. And the sailor senshi themselves do not die from age, thirst, hunger, oxygen deprivation, and a lack of atmospheric pressure. Although it's not clear if that's the case if they never transform in a given life, or if they have to stay transformed.

Just as a reminder: even baddies can use the energy of the Ginzuishou, but it's far from its potential unless the user's heart is in the right place. From what I've gathered, at the very least there needs to be love and unity, and a lack of fear, hate and sadness.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:58 pm

How about a love to be angry? O_o

I heard that Chaos has something to do with anger, what's with that?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:19 pm

A love for being angry? Is that what young folks call "passion" these days? :wink:

I don't know what's up with that, since I've never heard of it. Maybe some fans just assume that chaos has to play the opposite role in more ways than given. In the manga, it simply exists because light and darkness can't exist without the other. Maybe it's different in the anime; I never watched much of the last season so I may simply be ignorant int hat regard.

And you don't necessarily have to be mad to be either a megalomaniac or destroyer of worlds and such. Crazy works just fine. :P
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:25 pm

Yeah it's a thing I read about chaos controlling anyone who is angry enough or something.

I'd like an answer please.

I also read that chaos is behind all the villains.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Chaos can control the weak-minded, or those in a time of weakness. If they happen to be open to control because of anger, that doesn't mean that Chaos embodies it. It's probably more accurate to say that negative emotions and thoughts -- in general -- leave people vulnerable to Chaos. But it's not strictly necessary, since regular people are considered to be weak in general (they're getting controlled all of the time) and easily influenced, and even the sailor senshi are not completely immune to this. And if it's not their weakness, then it's simply because Chaos has grown that powerful.

Chaos is behind most of the villains that matter. Many that aren't don't really qualifier as such, like the ones from the side stories or Chibi-Usa's Diary stories. In the anime, Chaos wasn't behind the events of the Doom Tree arc. In the manga, Chaos wasn't behind the Snow Princess Kaguya arc (which I'm supposing includes one of the anime movies).
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:10 am

Interesting...

The generals are connected to the earth prince in some way, what was it?
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