anime multi-verse

[WG_Writer]

For about two weeks now I have been trying to see if I can link as many anime together through references cameos and allusions. so far I have had limited success as far as Ranma and Sailor Moon go. I WAS hoping to find something to set degrees on this. So now I am asking for help. I do not need a direct connection (unless you already have it ;p ) if you can set any connection from these series at all, even a brief glance Cameo should be enough.

If you want to help here are the rules:
1. The cross reference cannot be fictional i.e. one character reading the manga of another (such as Lucky Star reading Haruhi) (If I allowed that Lucky Star would just have so much potential but unfortunately its not an answer.)
2. It must be tangable, or at least to a point. A Ranma 1/2 keychain is not going to count here, however remember there is Sailor V fan stuff in Sailor Moon so that kind of connection is fair play since it is canon.
3. An incomplete cameo, but obvious does count if its again tangable. In Ranma 1/2 OVA 13 Lum makes a cameo (in a dream sequence by Akane) connecting the two series...ditto with Inu Yasha though I am questioning Inu Yasha as his cameo makes no sense for Akane to be using him in such a sequence. It is still plausable though since it seems only people she knows are the characters in them.
4. Any version of the series is valid, Anime or Manga, for the effect of this I am treating them as the same even if there are differences.
5. Cosplay of characters are allowed under two conditions: first is that the character in question would make sense to be cosplayed within the universe, and second the reference is not specifically implied to be fictional. Obviously Nobody in naruto would cosplay as Naruto, but in again Sailor Moon someone would make sense to cos-play as Sailor V. Or in DC universe someone would cosplay as the Flash (happened once... Flash meet 100 Flash cosplayers... yeah...)

I have not yet found any direct or indirect Sailor Moon Cameo's but have heard that there exists a cameo in Prince of Tennis, though I may be getting the series wrong.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

I can't say that I care for those first two arbitrary rules (and your definition of "tangible" leaves something to be desired). If I understand what they -- and you, by extension -- mean, you want a cameo. But, while a cameo is a reference, a reference isn't necessarily a cameo. Considering your mention of Lucky Star, it sounds like your decision is based on a desire for a higher difficulty level despite having a hard time finding Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 appearances to begin with.

Anyway, the funny thing is, I just recently saw a Sailor Moon reference in a manga somewhere... But I'm having trouble remembering which manga it had been. It may have been Hayate no Gotoku, but -- with your rules being what they are -- it probably wouldn't count, since you can pretty much assume that any series mentioned or make cameos in it are fictional series in its universe. Same goes for Excel Saga, where anything pretty much goes.

After thinking about it a bit, I think the Disgaea anime had a Sailor Moon reference (Mid-Boss throwing a rose into the ground, I believe), though I'm unsure if you'd count that series. One of Gourry's (from Slayers) crossdressing episodes has his hair done up like Usagi's, so that might count.

[WG_Writer]

sorry about being probably unclear. What I mean is a reference that proves a connection of some sort. Most series would not have a game or manga or posters of its own characters within itself (Nadesico being an odd exception as it has fictional recursion within itself). There is also an example of Sailor V games within Sailor Moon. What I am looking for is a way to pin down proof that they are the same universe and not a "fictional reference" in the series such as the main character reading a Sailor Moon Manga.

As to the first rule it is the most inportant rule not "arbitrary" the goal is to find a line between Ranma and Sailor Moon to try and pin them into the same universe.
By saying its an "arbitrary " rule it would be the same as having Sailor Moon reading a Ranma 1/2 Manga and saying by that alone it is proof.

However "tangable" is admitedly a tad open for for arguement. it must be done on a case by case basis. again with the Ranma/SM reference, would Usagi have an Akane key chain? Would Akane have a Sailor V key chain?

I am allowing for possibilities here, Ranma would not have key chains within his universe but Sailor V would, thus the "tangable" link would be one way there using a similar object. I admit it is not an easy line to allow for and can seem "arbitrary" but ask this "Could what ever reference this object is be valid in its own series?" This also applies to cos-play

Before becomming Sailor Moon would Usagi cosplay as Sailor V? What about anyone in Ranma 1/2 cosplay as the main characters because they are that famous?
This is a very very hard line to grasp. and I say lets err on side of yes, otherwise it gets really hard to succeed.

but just with Ranma alone I have managed this line: Fist of the Blue Sky to sequel Fist of the North Star (released in reverse order) to Urusei Yatsura because Kenshiro appears twice, Urusei Yatsura by Ranma OVA 13 links UY and Inu Yasha into the same Universe, Inu Yasha is then linked to Detective Conan via a scene while Kagome is in the "present"

Conan is used as a disguise in another series about making bread (forgot the name) but that scene also includes a specific statment about him being from "that show on Prime time" so it is kind of hard to take that one on. Plus that series is also has a few of similar examples...

[Spokavriel]

With your first rule here is all you need to look at. #1 is it the same publisher. Nope then guess it is impossible for it to comply with Rule #1 because doing so in compliance with your first rule is illegal. The authors will often draw a character they like but have to use another name or say it is fiction for the story to avoid having to pay royalties or get sued.

Its less cut and dry in Japan but most editors keep it this way to play it safe.

[Spica75]

sorry about being probably unclear. What I mean is a reference that proves a connection of some sort. Most series would not have a game or manga or posters of its own characters within itself (Nadesico being an odd exception as it has fictional recursion within itself). There is also an example of Sailor V games within Sailor Moon. What I am looking for is a way to pin down proof that they are the same universe and not a "fictional reference" in the series such as the main character reading a Sailor Moon Manga.

Oh. That was quite different from what i read your initial post as...


Well, Angelic Layer and Chobits are in the same "universe" at least. IIRC some of the charaters from those are also in Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle.
I THINK, Sailor Moon is hinted at somewhere in AL, but it´s too long since i watched it to recall for sure or where. Havent the faintest clue how to tie it towards Ranma though.

You might be able to find something in Rosario to Vampire, as it parodies lots of stuff without making it be fictional in-universe.

Mmm, Angel Heart is an alternate version of City Hunter, but i don´t think i know anything in them tying in any of the series you´ve mentioned...

Durarara and Baccano are connected by Isaac and Miria being in both, but again, i don´t of anything connecting them with anything useful for you.

Meh, i´m not being very helpful am i...

And i know i found a site somewhere that had a big list of cameos between different series, but i can´t seem to find it again...

Frankly i think you´re going to be hard pressed not to break your rules or fudge things a bit.

Before becomming Sailor Moon would Usagi cosplay as Sailor V?

Usagi as Sailor V? Totally possible.

What about anyone in Ranma 1/2 cosplay as the main characters because they are that famous?

As someone else in Ranma series? In that series, literally "anything goes" so nothing is totally implausible.
And for the same reason, just about anything is possible from other series as well. Under the right conditions and with the right motivation, not a problem.


Well, i say good luck to you.

[WG_Writer]

all of Clamp stuff is in the same universe so to speak, or at least close to it ("word of God" and cross references).

Also in reference to legality, it is far different in Japan with Anime then it is in the US for the reason that channels want viewers to "keep watching" so they actually encourage it. So there are more references and look alike characters then we see here. a Look alike is a good enough reference as long as nothing out right proves it not as with the Conon example.

A few series make numerous cameo references. but what I am looking for is not just cameo stuff, even a plot item that moves from one universe to another would be enough.


or to put this in simplest possible terms any reference that is useable enough to point it out.

Quick side to Spork: Fist of the North Star and Sailor Moon were both animed by Toei Animation and the Character from Fist of the North Star still found his way into Urusei Yatsura I could find no legal connection between the two. so legally Sailor Moon is closer then Urusei Yatsura by a massive margain yet we have not one but two crossovers by the same character firmly placing them in the same universe.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

I doubt To Love Ru and Black Cat might be linked by Golden Darkness and Eve (respectively), who are identical to each other in a lot of ways, but still separate people. If you count the character Nabeshin, he appears in quite a few titles, though it would probably be more accurate to say that he's a universe traveler than existing in the same universe in all cases.

Ranma 1/2 and Sailor Moon had some overlap while they were being produced, but your best bet in finding a connective reference of any sort would be in Sailor Moon. As flexible as Ranma 1/2 can be, I don't recall there ever being a magical girl or sentai reference anywhere. Seeing a panda or a pig-tailed boy in Sailor Moon is a lot more likely.

sorry about being probably unclear. What I mean is a reference that proves a connection of some sort. Most series would not have a game or manga or posters of its own characters within itself (Nadesico being an odd exception as it has fictional recursion within itself). There is also an example of Sailor V games within Sailor Moon. What I am looking for is a way to pin down proof that they are the same universe and not a "fictional reference" in the series such as the main character reading a Sailor Moon Manga.

Oh. That was quite different from what i read your initial post as...

That's what I'm saying. Er, going to say. Said. *Throws hands up in the air*

When I read, "link as many anime together through references cameos and allusions," I was far from thinking that the search was for the actual character existing in the same universe; especially because "allusion" was brought up.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

A different pair of series, but --

Kazuhiko Amagasaki (the fat kid with the big lips and pimply nose) from Tenchi (Universe and In Tokyo, but I believe not Ryo-Ohki) is on a school field trip to the excavation site in one of the El-Hazard series -- the one where they eventually found Ifurita.

One wonders how well Ifurita would get along with Ryoko. It could go either way.

[camk4evr]

The only Ranma Cameo I can think of, off the top of my head, is for Ninja High School (unless you count the special OVA opening where some event or other had alternating OVA episodes for Ranma 1/2, Urusai Yatsure, and Inyu Yasha) where both Ranma and Genma watch Jeremy Feeple run past saying that he won't marry Ichi.

A different pair of series, but --

Kazuhiko Amagasaki (the fat kid with the big lips and pimply nose) from Tenchi (Universe and In Tokyo, but I believe not Ryo-Ohki) is on a school field trip to the excavation site in one of the El-Hazard series -- the one where they eventually found Ifurita.

One wonders how well Ifurita would get along with Ryoko. It could go either way.

No he appears in the first episode of the first Ryo-Ohki OVA and in the first episode of the third OVA.

[LawOhki]

The only Ranma Cameo I can think of, off the top of my head, is for Ninja High School (unless you count the special OVA opening where some event or other had alternating OVA episodes for Ranma 1/2, Urusai Yatsure, and Inyu Yasha) where both Ranma and Genma watch Jeremy Feeple run past saying that he won't marry Ichi.

Which would effectively put Ranma in the Gold Digger universe as it's connected to NHS. It'd be nice to know the specific spot though. That reminds me I should really take advantage of this tenuous connection more.

There's that Pinky and the Brain comic where they go to the springs.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

Does the split-second appearance of someone who looks like Sailor Moon count? (Scene is around 10:40.)

[camk4evr]

In the first few seconds of Puni Puni Poemi, Poemi destroys a number of magical girls including the Sailor Senshi.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

Does the split-second appearance of someone who looks like Sailor Moon count? (Scene is around 10:40.)

Doesn't look that much like Sailor Moon. Might be good enough to lure a dumb General into a trap.

[WG_Writer]

Hmm that one might be a hard one to pin either way. What does the title banner translate as?

In Sailor Moon we do have the example of Sailor V showing that this 'could' be in universe possible. As long as nothing indicates that the character is fictional then as bad as the cos-play is I see no problem with it. Even if it is a cosplay show.

In the first few seconds of Puni Puni Poemi, Poemi destroys a number of magical girls including the Sailor Senshi.

That is out just due to Crystal Tokyo showing they didn't die. (in theory anyway) It would be hard to push that one through.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

I don't think that death is an issue. They'll get better.