Henshin boost, whiny Ranma

[tetrambs]

don't suppose any of you have seen or read shaman king? you could use that as a basis for the merger.
btw, i'm back after a while... my account got deleted tho, oh well

[AshK1980]

Everyone's account got deleted. Yours wasn't the only one. Everyone on the list including Sunshine had to re-register. Just thought I would let you know.
Sincerely,
AshK

[tetrambs]

ah ic,
well, for those of you who don't know the plot of shaman king... Shamans are people who can comunicate with ghosts, the talented ones can merge with a ghost and gain its powers for however long they're merged. Example: merge with the spirit of a dead school crammer, get A's on all your tests. Merge with a samurai, get awesome sword skills.
But on to the point i was making, the host and the ghost must have some sense of compatiblity, either the host must dominate the ghost or they must be really really good friends. And much like Eva's synch ratio, the higher percentage that they are bonded, the more powers that the host can pull on from the ghost.
Just thought that this info could be applied here... meh

[WG_Writer]

1st bold: That could lead to a number of interesting situations.
"Haruka, I'm Ranma, not Michiru." <At least I think I am> "Put down the whipped cream!"
2nd bold: Is the merger addictive to the Kensei?

First point: This type of thing would have to be done alot, its just too tempting to do. and in that example: "Haruka-papa, quit trying to seduce my Ranma-chan, even if she looks like Michiru-mama... Setsuna-mama, i think i need another thearipy session."

Yeah it would be hard to tell which way he would react to merging with Chibi-usa too. I wonder what effect it would have on merging with someone he doesnt get along with or like though, aside from some likely skill degredation. Im also currious on the actual mechanic for the fusion. I can just see Ranma's eagerness sky rocketing if its complicated. Though Usagi's clumsiness could have some hilarious results. Fusion-Ha!!???.... Instant Short overweight Sailor Moon. Rolling Eyes
Edit: Of course that probably wont be as bad as if Senshi magic cant override Junsenkyo. Hot or cold water could really throw things for a loop at that point.

The skill is passed either way, weither he likes the person or not. the merger is not complicated, as it was intended to be done mid battle if necessary. so no overwirght sailor moon. we won't have a Tuxedo Moon, the nature of the powers precludes that as Ranma is female when transformed and its set again when merged. however I do think he should be able to merge with kamen, except that Kamen is skilled enough that it would be unnecessary.
As to your other points, its just his skills, or rather the skills of the Kensei that gets passed, so anything ranma can do, the one who is merged with him can do it. But to do what you ask then other kensei would be needed, ones that specialize in thoes areas. I think using Ranma type characters from his manga would be okay, but it would be best to avoid bringing the fiancees into it as much as possible, I prefer the idea of minor characters comming in as kensei.

So does this mean that the person controlling the body at the time is what the outer appearence will be or will it be like a combination of the two with certain features different.

Originally I intended the first, and it should start that way. However as time progresses and he and one of the senshi gets better at "syncing" the appearance will shift to a blend depending on how synced they are.

ah ic,
well, for those of you who don't know the plot of shaman king... Shamans are people who can comunicate with ghosts, the talented ones can merge with a ghost and gain its powers for however long they're merged. Example: merge with the spirit of a dead school crammer, get A's on all your tests. Merge with a samurai, get awesome sword skills.
But on to the point i was making, the host and the ghost must have some sense of compatiblity, either the host must dominate the ghost or they must be really really good friends. And much like Eva's synch ratio, the higher percentage that they are bonded, the more powers that the host can pull on from the ghost.
Just thought that this info could be applied here... meh

I never thought about that, there is some similarity to shawman king.
However, unlike that, it is not power that Ranma shares its skill, and power goes the other way, but like skill power can only be shared so far. The explaination given is that its for security.
The Kensei is a position earned, where as the Senshi is inherited. As that the Kensei have Star Seeds and not Sailor Crystals, they can not tap directly from the planets, and since the power is channeled through the Star Seed, it cannot handle anything more then first form power.
In anything past first form, even with a high merge rate, the rate cannot pass certain points
Normal - 100%
Super - 50%
Eternal - 25%
If Sailor Moon uses her Princess serenity form or her Sailor Cosmos form (or similar) then its defaulted to 0% which means skill only.
At 100% Ranma can take completely over for the Senshi, and they have the same effect as a 0% Ranma. however its not going to always be 100% or 0%, depending on skill on cooperation and how far they are cooperating that will determine the ratio and appearance.
the Ratio is like Eva in that regard, however its not the same, for both to be giving equal effort it needs to be at 50%.
Thus in Normal form Ranma can be given total control, or if the senshi is in a higher form and gets KOed, Ranma can seize control and it reverts to normal form, or seperate.
In super form, Ranma can work in total tandom with the other at best, in Eva terms this would be like the twin attack episode.
in eternal form, at best Ranma can guide movement when allowed but is otherwis just a skill store.
In adition Ranma's reflexes work depending on his control sync percentage, if he is at 100% his reflexes will work normally, in eternal form, his reflexes will only work if the senshi allows it to work, which means they will fail without training on the senshi's part.
Remember its just skill that is passed not experaince, training, or other knowledge. But this works both ways. If Ami wanted to they could merge and she could help Ranma 'cheat' on a test.
More to the point the original jobs the Kenshi had were bodyguards, that is part of the reason for the controls and powers to work this way, imagine the ability to hide someone so completely that they will able to pass through biometric screanings. The ability to hide an undetectable bodyguard. If Ranma were in Usagi during the silver millenium and Berryl captured Usagi, they could switch and Ranma could escape with Usagi unhindered, or just prior to capture they split and Usagi hides and Ranma gets captured in her stead.
That is the angle I am taking.

[migele]

I like the idea. There was a manga where a girl turned into an armour for her master ... Dark Blood? Vampire Master? or something like that.

[Dark Magic]

I think using Ranma type characters from his manga would be okay, but it would be best to avoid bringing the fiancees into it as much as possible, I prefer the idea of minor characters comming in as kensei.

I wouldn't do this. I think that the whole Ranma characters like one of the fiancees being a senshi character is over used. But like you said if you do use this idea use minor characters.

[WG_Writer]

I wouldn't do this. I think that the whole Ranma characters like one of the fiancees being a senshi character is over used. But like you said if you do use this idea use minor characters.

My idea as to minor characters would fall into the Rcotw group (Random challanger of the week) basically a different skill set entirely. but the only cannon character from Ranma I would use is Herb, but i see no way to pull that off.
Regular cast members are better suited for side chaos, imo. there will be enough trouble for Ranma in this situtation, that keeping his normal chaos around would drive him through the edge and back, and as fun as that is, i doubt that Saturn would like that, especially when she needs to merge with him.

[Dark Magic]

Yeah I agree a pissed off Saturn would never be a good thing.

[crystlshake]

It could get ugly if one of the NWC or someone else sees Ranma change back to normal after a merger. The last thing the Senshi need fighting demons is random attacks from Ranma's misguided 'friends'. Though Usagi could see the benifits of closing the school for repairs....

[Anchoku]

Nice idea, WarGiver. It has a interesting Pretear flavor.
Imagine the senshi merging with a martial artist nut-job for mad skillz power-ups. @_@
Of course, it would be equally interesting if the senshi acquired a bit of the insanity as well.
Hm... What would Usagi be like spewing insults and laughing at baddies like Ranma?
How about combining Akane and Ami for a testy genius?
Speaking of testi, imagine a Haruka-Tatewaki combo?
Setsuna might be good with Gosunkugi
Makoto and Happosai? Ewww!
That's almost as bad as Minako and Mariko.
Sweet little Hotaru should get Kodachi.
What better match for Michiru than Mikado?
Poor Ryouga, Genma and Soun. No one wants to try them twice.
But what to do with the Amazons?
Perhaps Rei would like the hidden weapons style from Mousse? Then again, a blind archer isn't well thought of.

[WG_Writer]

Nice idea, WarGiver. It has a interesting Pretear flavor.
Imagine the senshi merging with a martial artist nut-job for mad skillz power-ups. @_@

Perhaps Rei would like the hidden weapons style from Mousse? Then again, a blind archer isn't well thought of.

Well unfortunately the plan keeps the personality quirks from crossing over in the merger, in addition him being blind (Physically speaking) is a problem with his eyes. Rei wouldn't be affected. Plus I planned to not include the NWC beyond Ranma... Although your Mousse-Rei idea to give her hidden weapons is interesting, especially since she could enchant her weapons to actually do the needed damage.
Hmm...
He would need to have the girl curse for it to work, and if i include him then I would want two to three more. They should be girls, as if I use too many guys with the identical curse it would be an easy out, plus Chaos isn't supose to be that predictible. Any thoughts?
(I would girl curse Mousse as a mistake, similar to how he got his duck curse to begin with)

[Anchoku]

Age and gender don't matter in Pretear but I know you'd like to get Ranma into a seifuku independent of any merging stuff.
Still, I can't help but laugh imagining all the wacky personality and ability combinations of Moon Senshi and Nerima Senshi.
Hmm.....
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"Die, stupid, perverted monster!" Ami/Akane screams raising a giant bubble-making mallet over her head as the rage takes over.
"Shopping malls are for silky darlings the pretty ladies trying them on! Happo-oak Revolution," Makoto/Happosai said launching eight splinter-bombs at the unfortunate youma.
"Beeeda," Usagi/Ranma turned around slapping her fanny and sticking her tongue out at the youma. The infuriated minion of evil launched a blast of hot water at Sailor Moon soaking her but otherwise doing no damage. "You stupid monster! You got my hair wet! I'm going to kick your slow-punk ass from here to the moon!"
Mars points at the monster and declares, "For reading my manga and stealing my shampoo, prepare to die, Saotome! Mars Fist of the Flamed Duck!" Mars launches a flaming arrow tipped with a potty-trainer load which not only severely singes the youma but also gives it a good bonk to the head.

[Dark Magic]

He would need to have the girl curse for it to work, and if i include him then I would want two to three more. They should be girls, as if I use too many guys with the identical curse it would be an easy out, plus Chaos isn't supose to be that predictible. Any thoughts?
(I would girl curse Mousse as a mistake, similar to how he got his duck curse to begin with)

like you thought before you could use Herb and techniqully you could use Kiima since she has that Akane curse.

[WG_Writer]

Age and gender don't matter in Pretear but I know you'd like to get Ranma into a seifuku independent of any merging stuff.
Still, I can't help but laugh imagining all the wacky personality and ability combinations of Moon Senshi and Nerima Senshi.
Hmm.....
~~~~~~~~~~~
"Die, stupid, perverted monster!" Ami/Akane screams raising a giant bubble-making mallet over her head as the rage takes over.
"Shopping malls are for silky darlings the pretty ladies trying them on! Happo-oak Revolution," Makoto/Happosai said launching eight splinter-bombs at the unfortunate youma.
"Beeeda," Usagi/Ranma turned around slapping her fanny and sticking her tongue out at the youma. The infuriated minion of evil launched a blast of hot water at Sailor Moon soaking her but otherwise doing no damage. "You stupid monster! You got my hair wet! I'm going to kick your slow-punk ass from here to the moon!"
Mars points at the monster and declares, "For reading my manga and stealing my shampoo, prepare to die, Saotome! Mars Fist of the Flamed Duck!" Mars launches a flaming arrow tipped with a potty-trainer load which not only severely singes the youma but also gives it a good bonk to the head.

Never saw Pretear, not basing it off that. This is different, then what you describe with your examples, but if you want to go that route, be my guest. Although the Usagi/Ranma scene might be similar because I can see either of them saying that, and doing that.
The idea is les of a personality swap. In a prior example I gave was where when they were sharing control it was like that episode of Evangelion where 01 and 02 had to do syncronized attacks. The idea I am using for the shared control would be like that. It is far more like Shaman King then the examples you gave. The personalities do not blend that much. There will always be a dominant personality, even if only for a sentance, but for it to be at a 50% merg ratio (the equal level), both must be thinking the same thing at the same time. So we would not get out of character Sailor Senshi to that extream. not to say there won't be at all, but the Kensei needs more control, which is unlikely most of the time.
I think the confusion comes in that in my fics I tend to be a tad more serious then otherwise.

like you thought before you could use Herb and techniqully you could use Kiima since she has that Akane curse.

I use Herb too much as it is, although if I did fuku him I think it would be a first, and Kima too... Hmmm...

[Dark Magic]

Also you could use Lin-Lin and Ran-Ran and/or The two other Tendo daughters that are only in the anime. I believe their names are Katsume and Natsume but not sure.