No Need for Destiny Ch 3: No Need for Goddesses

[Tonyloco]

you can have them becoming wanderers in other sector of the galaxy, a place outside of the normal sphere of influence of the Juraians and the galaxy police.
the could for example be protecting their side of the galaxy from invading alien's monsters or similar things.
or you can simply have them to travel to another dimesion where the time runs faster than in their home dimension, this way they can come back 10'000 years later and probably only have passed less than 1000 themselves.

[MC80a Liberty]

KAIN..... I don't recall a time frame from tha OAV's for when he was initially captured. But I do remember him being able to detect jurian energy. With the "gifts" the goddesses bestowed on Ranma and family, that could make them targets and force a confrontation. And since he owns half the galaxy, he deffinitely has resources.

The reason why there's no time frame for it in the OVA is because Kain isn't in the OVA. Contrary to what many people believe, the movie was based on Tenchi Universe, not the OVA.

[Wolfhunter]

Well, Technically, you don't HAVE to fill up that void.
I'd say is maybe cover some key points like them investigating Sol and discovering the Silver Millenium. (I still think that names sounds more like an era then the name of the Kingdom. At least that's what I was let to believe the kingdom was called based on the Manga)
Though, I am interested in how he became related to Seta. (The in-law comment comes to mind).
Oh yeah. Based on their gifts, Does that mean both Nabiki and Ranma now have seperate treeships or are both sharing the same ship? I always wondered how powerful two 1st generation trees in one ship would be.

[Wolfhunter]

Oh yeah. And I'm also curious as to if Sasami will remember the "payment" when they finally merge.

[Krogoth]

KAIN..... I don't recall a time frame from tha OAV's for when he was initially captured. But I do remember him being able to detect jurian energy. With the "gifts" the goddesses bestowed on Ranma and family, that could make them targets and force a confrontation. And since he owns half the galaxy, he deffinitely has resources.

The reason why there's no time frame for it in the OVA is because Kain isn't in the OVA. Contrary to what many people believe, the movie was based on Tenchi Universe, not the OVA.

I did not mean the OAV/OVA Tenchi Muyo!. I meant OVA as in "not a series". and since KAIN is from a movie.... Anyway, what KAIN is from isn't the point. Regardless, i did a little digging on my lunch break. seems 100 year gap between capture and events in movie. However, being that this is an AU and the actual capture itself isnt really documented (unless it's in something I've not seen on screen), it could lead to some interesting inter-personal events down the road if nothing else.
*shrugs* the man asked for suggestions so.....

[Cyber_Skaarj]

I did not mean the OAV/OVA Tenchi Muyo!. I meant OVA as in "not a series". and since KAIN is from a movie.... Anyway, what KAIN is from isn't the point. Regardless, i did a little digging on my lunch break. seems 100 year gap between capture and events in movie. However, being that this is an AU and the actual capture itself isnt really documented (unless it's in something I've not seen on screen), it could lead to some interesting inter-personal events down the road if nothing else.
*shrugs* the man asked for suggestions so.....

You're missing the point. Kain was not in Tenchi Muyo at all, he was from the Tenchi Universe storyline. Hence why the GP Officer Kiyone is in the movie; she's a character that was created for the Universe series, but was never in the Muyo series (except for one episode that doesn't really count as it was just a story that Mihoshi told... one that had Pretty Sammy in as well, so Mihoshi's memory on that is kinda suspect I would think).
As for the fic, Innortal; I like it so far, but I think you should keep the travelling around for 10,000 years to just one or two chapters. Any longer and you'll have people constantly asking you the question "when are you going to get around to the reunion with their families?"

[ranmas]

You're missing the point. Kain was not in Tenchi Muyo at all, he was from the Tenchi Universe storyline. Hence why the GP Officer Kiyone is in the movie; she's a character that was created for the Universe series, but was never in the Muyo series (except for one episode that doesn't really count as it was just a story that Mihoshi told... one that had Pretty Sammy in as well, so Mihoshi's memory on that is kinda suspect I would think).
As for the fic, Innortal; I like it so far, but I think you should keep the travelling around for 10,000 years to just one or two chapters. Any longer and you'll have people constantly asking you the question "when are you going to get around to the reunion with their families?"

The question, when is all hell going to break lose would sound better in that case.

[joe rice]

umm... how about a lost universe cross or
better yet an elhazard cross with the black haired mihoshi
like ifurita

[Krogoth]

Guys, I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding. I know it's not the same "timeline" that's being used as the core of the fic. But Innortal asked for ideas. Everyone was tossing out different crossovers. I was just thinkin', why not something a little closer to home, as it were? It's an AU fanfic. He can pretty much do whatever he wants with it so long as it makes sence. And weaving KAIN or some similar villian into this fic, especially with KAIN's ability to manipulate time and space, is no less of a stretch than mixing it with anything else so long as it's done right, which I have no doubt that he can do.
I appologize if my post was misconstrued. I was not trying to pick an argument or fight with anyone over something so unimportant. I've lurked here for quite some time and have a great deal of respect for the regulars here.

[Anime_Freak317]

Great chapter...however you left out some key elements..
1.) Where are the three in their educations? Are they near graduation, or are they still attending. You left that open before Washu and Ranma got engaged.
2.) In your last chapter, you noted some information on long range scans of Earth. Wouldn't that include pictures. They would show the continents being closer like they origionally were in the Stone Age, thus showing that they were in the past and not the future. Something that could be brought up in this or future chapters.
3.) You still haven't brought back any present "time" information. I think a lot of people would like to see how some of the NWC would be re-acting to Ranma and Nabiki's three(+) day disapperance. Maybe something with Nabiki's Lt.'s selling news, real or not, to the others.
4.) Nice touch on Nabs dealing with the father of her child. You left out some of her training though. You stuck with education and scientific researching, feelings and proposals, and heartbreaks with new marriges, but nothing on training and strengthening.
Over all though, like I said, a great chapter. We all look forward to the final posting.

[MC80a Liberty]

Guys, I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding. I know it's not the same "timeline" that's being used as the core of the fic. But Innortal asked for ideas. Everyone was tossing out different crossovers. I was just thinkin', why not something a little closer to home, as it were? It's an AU fanfic. He can pretty much do whatever he wants with it so long as it makes sence. And weaving KAIN or some similar villian into this fic, especially with KAIN's ability to manipulate time and space, is no less of a stretch than mixing it with anything else so long as it's done right, which I have no doubt that he can do.
I appologize if my post was misconstrued. I was not trying to pick an argument or fight with anyone over something so unimportant. I've lurked here for quite some time and have a great deal of respect for the regulars here.

Right, your first post sounded to me like you were looking for a place for Kain in the Ryo-Ohki! timeline rather than the Universe! timeline since I've generally seen Tenchi OVA and Tenchi-Muyo! Ryo-Ohki! used interchangeably. Sorry if I souded snappish, but it's one of the fanon thing s that I find the most irritating.
Back on the topic, why add in more series for the gap? We already have:
SM (Sailor Wars remnants? Shadow Galactica?)
Slayers (War of the Monsters Fall?)
Naruto (Have the tailed demons be the result of a pre-Ranma Seniwa experiment, founding of early Hidden Villages?)
as well as the other series. There's already plenty to cover, especially if Innortal doesn't want to take too much time before the reunion. Of course, if you mean afterwards thats a whole different story.

[Krogoth]

No worries Mon-cal.
Can't call myself a fic "author"... yet. (none of my fics have even been worthy of posting a chapter anywhere... but I'm workin on it!) But as an avid fic reader, one of my personal pet peeves is seeing a perfectly good crossover fic get bogged down or go off on some whacked out tangent that's completely skewed due to unneeded crossover elements being thrown in. But why go elsewhere when the 3 "core" series' offer so much to work with?
Honestly, in sticking with what's already in the fic, I can't offer much beyond using what's there as a way to bridge the gap between the two time-frames. Though I think it is an excellent idea to include things in the between times a way to show Ranma and Nabiki maturing instead of them just feeling horribly OOC for no apparent reason when everything gets back to the present.
Unfortunately, I am hesitant to add my only other idea on the off chance that's already being planned anyway. heh. Dun wanna spill nothin by inadvertantly guessing.

[Cyber_Skaarj]

2.) In your last chapter, you noted some information on long range scans of Earth. Wouldn't that include pictures. They would show the continents being closer like they origionally were in the Stone Age, thus showing that they were in the past and not the future. Something that could be brought up in this or future chapters.

I would have thought that those long range scans would be more on population and technology than anything geographical. They're only wanting to see if there's a up-and-coming civilization developing there, not the lay of the land.

[Atlan]

and even if they did take landmass pictures, why would they show them to Ranma and Nabiki? As far as they know, they are in the future. They have no reason to examine the landmasses.

[Anime_Freak317]

Because of the simple fact that even if they can't be there, they may want to at least look at it. Besides, nothing was said about the population or technological level except that they were behind in the times. With what Ranma and Nabiki could see, that could be true in their present home.