New Picture of Valkyrie Ice

[Valkyrie Ice]

Putting this up so that anyone who wants to see my avatar in a larger format can.
Now, without further ado: The Pretty Non-Sailor Suited Succubus of Kawaii Hentai.
Updated: Val, after eight hours in Corel Photopaint
Updated: New wings

[migele]

looks cuddly!
How do I summon her?
I like the white hair/fur thingy.

[DCG]

Some one ganked fluffies tail.

[lwf58]

Pretty good artwork. The only problem is the wings. You have them muscled like a human arm, but batwings don't look like that. The bones in the wings have little in the way of musculature because the breast muscles do most of the work. They operate more by tendons than by developed muscles. There's a good image of how they look here.
The same was true of Pterosaur wings, although they only used one finger as the membrane support.

[Sunshine Temple]

I like.
Larry's comments about the wings hold.
heh very cute. if a bit gaudy.

[Valkyrie Ice]

Humm. Will have to adjust that a little in the future. However the structure of Val's wing is a bit different than straight bat wings, as she's a glider rather than a highly active flyer. Her wings basically lock into place in extended mode rather than flapping so the main arm bone needs to be a bit sturdier since she weighs considerably more than a bat. Steering is primarily the job of the fingers, while stability is why she has such a long tail. Good point on the tendons though. Will have to research further.
Val

[Valkyrie Ice]

Hey Larry, am I doing better at manga faces though?

[lwf58]

Yep, you're getting more confident in how you draw, and it shows.
One bit of advice, though. In the past, I've been in contact with one or two fan artists in Japan who were very good, and one exercise they did to help them develop was to practice drawing in established pro artists' styles. The idea was to help them come up with their own styles by practicing others and figuring out how and why they did things they way they do.
Since your style is a kind of mix between Japanese and Tex Avery, you might try emulating Tex, Walt Disney, and various of your favorite mangaka as practice. Look at still frames or comics frames and try to copy 'em, and see if you don't get better over time.
BTW, Walt Disney is in there because modern Japanese styles were strongly influenced by Disney at his height as an animator. That's where they got the "big eyes, small mouth" thing.
Heh. When I used to show anime to people who'd never seen it before, in the days before it started showing up on mainstream TV and cable, they used to ask me "Why do they have such big eyes?" It never once occurred to them to look at Disney and Warner Brothers as the source; they just took the American cartoon industry's use of the style for granted and never made the connection unless it was pointed out to them.

[Valkyrie Ice]

Humm, primary scource material is Takahashi. I need more source material for BSSM and AMG, particularly Mara and Urd. Wish I could find character design sheets. Those are extremely useful.

[ChasTaro]

Yea, very nice! Hopposi would be proud. He'd also try to steal you panties.

[Dragon Man]

Yea, very nice! Hopposi would be proud. He'd also try to steal you panties.

Are you sure she's wearing some? This is a succubus. Personally I'd love to see Happosai skewered on Val's trident/staff weapon.

[Valkyrie Ice]

Are you sure she's wearing some? This is a succubus.

Of course I'm not wearing any!!!! Do you have any idea how hard it is to find them made for a tail!!!!
*blinks as she realizes how dumb that was, since dragon man has a tail too...*
Um... right.

Personally I'd love to see Happosai skewered on Val's trident/staff weapon.

I keep trying, but the little bugger is harder to hit than a drunken bumble bee on speed.
(Anyway, check out the updated and fully shaded pic ^ )

[Valkyrie Ice]

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 The only problem is the wings.

Yo, Larry, Sunshine, do the wings look better this go round?

[Sunshine Temple]

shading looks better, and the wings are better, still they're a bit funny looking

[lwf58]

Better, yes, but still not there. First off, if you view the wings as hands, the palms of the hands should face forward, toward the viewer. The thumb projects upward, and the forefinger forms the outer support. The other three fingers then support the membrane with the pinkie being the one closest to the body. Right now, your drawing has the palm of the hand facing down, with the thumb projecting horizontally forward.
The elbow joint is also poorly formed. It looks like something I'd expect to see in Popeye or L'il Abner cartoon strips.
Lastly, where are the finger joints? The supports of the wing are made of the same three bones used as fingers in other mammals, just hollow and much elongated.