crossover idea twists

[bissek]

The really fun part comes when the people attending the conference for unattached magical girls find out that there's a conference for unattached magical boys going on at the same time at a location less than a mile away.

It might get potentially ugly when they realize that since they outnumber the magical boys by at least 3:1 even before you discount the ones that are already spoken for (By normal girls or other magical girls), so there aren't enough to go around.

[bissek]

SM/Buso Renkin: While the Senshi are fighting the latest menace in Juuban, a different girl who is in the habit of killing monsters while wearing a fuku come into town hunting homunuculi. Eventually, Tokiko ends up in a battle at the same time as the Senshi, which results in an unusual introductory speech from the perspective of those who overhear it.

Moon: <Location specific speech intro here>. I am the pretty Sailor Suited Soldier of Love and Justice, Sailor Moon! In the name of the Moon,

Tokiko (Yelling over Moon's monologue): I'll splatter your guts!

Making people think that the Senshi have gone from punishing evil to eviscerating it.

When you consider the fact that the fuku that Tokiko got from the school she infiltrated before transferring doesn't look all that different from the Juuban school fukus, and she deliberately does a Sailor Moon dramatic pose at one point (under extreme protest), it seems possible (The mangaka openly admitted that he copied the pose from SM in the manga).

[Comartemis]

Just took a look at Cutting Ties by EmberFireRose and it gave me this idea.

I've seen a fair number of fics that feature the senshi and Ranma meeting when Ranma saves one or more of the senshi from the latest menace, sometimes just from normal thugs, but Cutting Ties made me realize that I've rarely seen the reverse. Ideally, this would involve the moxibustion arc (rather than copying Ryoga's assault with convieniently-placed locking kettle water) with Sailor Moon taking place during season 3. Ranma-chan is wandering through downtown Tokyo in an absolute funk over her newfound weakness. She makes a turn down a bad alley and is confronted by a bunch of thugs who show unwanted interest in her body. A bad situation is made better by the appearance of Chibi-Usa and Hotaru. For a moment it looks like the girls might be joining the "festivities" but when the thugs get rough with Hotaru, Saturn's defensive mechanisms kick in and send the poor saps flying in all directions. The rest of the story (after Ranma gets his strength back) would be a divergence from the S season with Ranma interfering in daimon attacks, pissing off the Outers, and generally causing chaos in Juuban while growing closer to Hotaru, perhaps training her in the basics of Anything Goes to help with her frailty.

I would actually really like to see this idea developed. I'll put some more thought into this and post it on the ideas board.

[Zwzn]

Just took a look at Cutting Ties by EmberFireRose and it gave me this idea.

I've seen a fair number of fics that feature the senshi and Ranma meeting when Ranma saves one or more of the senshi from the latest menace, sometimes just from normal thugs, but Cutting Ties made me realize that I've rarely seen the reverse. Ideally, this would involve the moxibustion arc (rather than copying Ryoga's assault with convieniently-placed locking kettle water) with Sailor Moon taking place during season 3. Ranma-chan is wandering through downtown Tokyo in an absolute funk over her newfound weakness. She makes a turn down a bad alley and is confronted by a bunch of thugs who show unwanted interest in her body. A bad situation is made better by the appearance of Chibi-Usa and Hotaru. For a moment it looks like the girls might be joining the "festivities" but when the thugs get rough with Hotaru, Saturn's defensive mechanisms kick in and send the poor saps flying in all directions. The rest of the story (after Ranma gets his strength back) would be a divergence from the S season with Ranma interfering in daimon attacks, pissing off the Outers, and generally causing chaos in Juuban while growing closer to Hotaru, perhaps training her in the basics of Anything Goes to help with her frailty.

I would actually really like to see this idea developed. I'll put some more thought into this and post it on the ideas board.

When Ranma was at his weakest he was still extremely strong, fast, and tuff by normal standards. Ranma could still lift his pack. The pack had to weigh a hundred of pounds at least. He took hits from an enraged Ryoga, and was punched through the side of a mountain into what was likely a cave. He was also fast enough to dodge about as well as before. Those would have to be more then just thugs. It might work better if a weakened Ranma was targeted by the Death Busters.

[Comartemis]

When Ranma was at his weakest he was still extremely strong, fast, and tuff by normal standards.

Forgive my ignorance, Zwzn; my knowledge of the moxibustion arc--indeed, of about 9/10ths of Ranma 1/2 canon--is limited to references in fanfiction. Wasn't that the arc that culminated with Ranma learning the Hiryu Shoten Ha?

It might work better if a weakened Ranma was targeted by the Death Busters.

Now there's a thought, but what would make Ranma's heart crystal shine with enough purity to make it a target? I'm assuming that Ranma goes through some angst about being so weak, so his martial arts focus wavers slightly. It'd probably be better if he knocks either Hotaru, Chibi-Usa, or one of the other senshi out of the way of an attack, but even without his heart crystal he retains enough control of himself to fight back somewhat to protect Hotaru and/or the others.

[Zwzn]

When Ranma was at his weakest he was still extremely strong, fast, and tuff by normal standards.

Forgive my ignorance, Zwzn; my knowledge of the moxibustion arc--indeed, of about 9/10ths of Ranma 1/2 canon--is limited to references in fanfiction. Wasn't that the arc that culminated with Ranma learning the Hiryu Shoten Ha?

Ranma dodging Mousse's kicks when tied up by Mousse.
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book13/RM13-024.html


Ranma taking a punch from an enraged Ryoga.
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book13/RM13-113.html

Ranma lifting a backpack that has to weigh alot. He then falls on his back because of the weight, but he still lifted what had to weigh more then most people can likely lift.
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book14/RM14-013.html

The mark was in place at all those times.

It might work better if a weakened Ranma was targeted by the Death Busters.

Now there's a thought, but what would make Ranma's heart crystal shine with enough purity to make it a target? I'm assuming that Ranma goes through some angst about being so weak, so his martial arts focus wavers slightly. It'd probably be better if he knocks either Hotaru, Chibi-Usa, or one of the other senshi out of the way of an attack, but even without his heart crystal he retains enough control of himself to fight back somewhat to protect Hotaru and/or the others.

Pure heart crystal is not really an accurate name. Focused heart would likely be more accurate. The targets seemed to be rather focused on one thing at time s to the point of being a little unhealthy at times.

[Tovath]

one thing how would the Death Busters know that Ranma was going though some angst and his focus was wavering? They didn't build anything to find heart crystals until late in the season.

[P.H. Wise]

Ranma lifting a backpack that has to weigh alot. He then falls on his back because of the weight, but he still lifted what had to weigh more then most people can likely lift.
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book14/RM14-013.html

I'm not sure how well this scene represents the level of strength that Ranma has at this point, as it is clearly done for comedic effect. It could very easily be argued that the only reason Ranma is able to lift the backpack at all is because it is funny.

Pure heart crystal is not really an accurate name. Focused heart would likely be more accurate. The targets seemed to be rather focused on one thing at time s to the point of being a little unhealthy at times.

Yep. Which gives all sorts of ironies to the action of the Deathbusters arc if you think about it - if Minako hadn't been so purely devoted to the thought of having a pure heart, she wouldn't have been a target. A less obvious example, but far more important, is the example of Uranus and Neptune. If they hadn't been as purely devoted to finding the Talismans as they were, they would not have been suitable hosts for those Talismans (lacking a pure heart crystal to contain it). Their whole 'some sacrifices are necessary' monofocus on their mission approach is arguably what allowed them to be hosts to the Talismans at all.

[Comartemis]

one thing how would the Death Busters know that Ranma was going though some angst and his focus was wavering? They didn't build anything to find heart crystals until late in the season.

That's part of the problem. If, as Zwzn says, the heart crystal shines because of focus instead of purity (and I'm inclined to agree with him) and Ranma is losing his focus on the martial arts because of his weakness, there's little there that would make him an attractive target to Professor Tomoe and Friends.

Before I can go much further with this idea, I need to actually read the moxibustion arc so I know what the hell I'm talking about. Which book in the manga did that take place in?

[Tovath]

how are the death Busters suppose to know that Ranma's focus is wavering? They don't live in Nerima and they didn't get Happosai's leaflet.

Pure heart crystal is not really an accurate name. Focused heart would likely be more accurate. The targets seemed to be rather focused on one thing at time s to the point of being a little unhealthy at times.

If this was true then why is Usagi's heart crystal so large, she is hardly a focused person.

[P.H. Wise]

If this was true then why is Usagi's heart crystal so large, she is hardly a focused person.

Focus isn't exactly the right term. A 'pure heart' in Sailor Moon terms is a heart that is purely devoted to something, but that's not necessarily the same thing as being a 'focused person.' In the episode in question, it appeared to be Usagi's love for Mamoru that was the focus of her 'pure heart.' It being a big, epic, predestined sort of love, it makes sense that it would produce a very bright (not large) crystal.

[Comartemis]

how are the death Busters suppose to know that Ranma's focus is wavering? They don't live in Nerima and they didn't get Happosai's leaflet.

Almost every person I can recall the DBs targeting usually spends a minute or two being studied by Eudial or whoever before the attack takes place. If Ranma isn't showing the focus on the martial arts that he's famous for, Eudial might assume she's got the wrong person and call off the attack. Alternately, if Ranma saves Hotaru (or vice versa) the ensuing interaction can help Ranma obtain the resolve he needs to face Happosai again. He then loudly proclaims his intent to be the best again, then Eudial jumps out of the bushes where she's been evesdropping and commences the attack.

As for how they know of Ranma in the first place, he's more or less a household name in Nerima; surely some of that fame would trickle over into the other wards of Tokyo, the way the Senshi have become urban legends all over the city.

*EDIT*
Found the moxibustion arc. The manga seems to contradict itself as to how weak Ranma is during this period. He's as fast and tough as ever but a punch meant to vent his wrath on a wall didn't even phase the toddler he accidently hit. In other words, in a narrow alley with little room to maneuver and a bunch of thugs, probably bearing knives and so forth, a weakened Ranma is going to have his work cut out for him. I'll keep examining the Ranma = victim of the week angle, but I think my original idea still holds water.

[Zwzn]

one thing how would the Death Busters know that Ranma was going though some angst and his focus was wavering? They didn't build anything to find heart crystals until late in the season.

That's part of the problem. If, as Zwzn says, the heart crystal shines because of focus instead of purity (and I'm inclined to agree with him) and Ranma is losing his focus on the martial arts because of his weakness, there's little there that would make him an attractive target to Professor Tomoe and Friends.

Before I can go much further with this idea, I need to actually read the moxibustion arc so I know what the hell I'm talking about. Which book in the manga did that take place in?

Focus is focus. It shouldn't matter what the person is focused on. Ranma would have been focused on finding a cure.

I'm not sure how well this scene represents the level of strength that Ranma has at this point, as it is clearly done for comedic effect. It could very easily be argued that the only reason Ranma is able to lift the backpack at all is because it is funny.

True, but I couldn't think of any other times shown to judge how weak Ranma was. My point was Ranma seemed to go from Z-Fighter level strength to Mr.Satan level strength as I recall.

[Comartemis]

True, but I couldn't think of any other times shown to judge how weak Ranma was. My point was Ranma seemed to go from Z-Fighter level strength to Mr.Satan level strength as I recall.

If that first scene with the toddler is any indication, Mr. Satan could arm wrestle Ranma with just his pinkie finger and win.

[P.H. Wise]

If that first scene with the toddler is any indication, Mr. Satan could arm wrestle Ranma with just his pinkie finger and win.

Which also goes back to the 'slapstick comedy' problem. Was the toddler scene done as an accurate representation of Ranma's level of strength, or was it done for comedic effect?