Looking for an advanced non Jurain alien race for a fic

[deathgeonous]

As the title says, I'm looking for a good Non Jurain alein race to include in one of my fics. The Fic is Chaotic Time. It has Ranma as Setsuna's reborn son. I want a NON Jurian alein race of seficent political power included in my fic. Ranma's dad will be a member of it. Sadly, I really can't think of one at the moment that is a large political power other then Jurai that meet my requriments at this time. But I don't want to do that, for a verity of reasons. So I was wondering if any of you knew of any large political alien empires that would work well in this case. I'm sure if I was feeling better at this moment I could come up with SOMETHING else, but my mind is drawing blanks at this point in time, so I'm asking you guys.

Thanks for all the help, good bye for now.

[bissek]

The Minbari from Babylon 5 might be good. They had been a galactic superpower for a thousand years at the time canon contact with Earth was made in the 2240s.

EDIT: having just looked over the fic a bit, there's a couple things to note: 1: Minbari don't approve of halfbreeds, and 2: As of the mid 13th Century Earth time (1st Shadow War), it became taboo for any Minbari to kill another. The only exception is the ritual death duel known as Denn'Sha, in which the loser takes full responsibility for his death on himself, which technically makes it suicide.

[Heaven's Deamon]

One question that has to be asked is whether or not you are limiting your resources, A lot of the "non-earth humans" in anime are actually desended from colonists who came from Earth, though those types could be used if you said the colonists came from the Silver Millenium Earth. You might have more luck finding an appropriate race if you look through American Sci-fi or comic books. Only other option I can think of is the Race in Nanoha, and it's hard to tell if they travel realities or just through space.

[Spokavriel]

There's always dragging up a race like Romulins Klingons or even the over used Saiyans.

Remember Trek TOS Romulins and Klingons didn't have allot to do to disguise themselves as Humans and both did have empires. The Romulins more political than anyone else for most of Trek.

[Comartemis]

Meh. Having Ranma's dad be a Saiyan would explain quite a bit, but DG wants a significant political power; the Saiyan ideas of politics can probably be summed up as "Vegeta smash!"

I can't think of any at the moment, though I like the idea of using Nanoha's Mid-Childans. I'll give this some more thought.

[Spokavriel]

You'd have to be extremely creative to use the one that just came to mind. But what about Thunderan. The Cat people in Thundercats came from Thundera and they did have space travel even though Jaga more or less escaped in the only available vessle with a bunch of kids they could theoreticly also work if you plaied it AU where instead of the world following in the footsteps of Krypton they staied a living world and expanded their Astral technologies.

I kinda wish there were fewer stories of experimental spacecraft saving a few members of a doomed race but it was so convenient and thousands coppied that model after Clark Kent became popular. You could even try the same AU Model for Kryptonians.

[deathgeonous]

Saiyan? God no. Sure they make a lot of sense, and I do mean a lot, but they don't fit with what I want. Now Nanoha's race, that's a maybe, but I'd have to resech them some. It's been forever since I read that.

Mainly I'm looking for a strong political power that could of easily been around twenty thousand years in the past, and its now still here, as strong or even stronger then ever. A humaniod build and the ability to produce offspring with a human is a must of course, but I really don't care where I take it from. Animie to si-fi movie to comic books.

And Kryptonian? Are you nuts!?! Really, I'm not looking to uber out Ranma with his father's race. And that's just uber. Way, way too uber. That is one of the reason's I didn't want to use the Jurain race. That and I'd have to put in the Tenchi cast, which I also don't want to do.

[Tovath]

If you don't mind something from a Sci-fi noval instead of an anime then, How about Quaddies? They are a race of humans bioengineered to live in zero-gravity. They have no problems with humans

[Heaven's Deamon]

OK, that answers some questions I had and makes the suitability of Nanoha questionable unless you're willng to fudge your definitions.

I don't think it is every stated how long the current Mid-Childans have been around, but I think 20,000 years would be pushing it, the only reason I can see the Jurians lasting that long in the first place is because of their extended lifespans, for any race that has a lifespan closer to human norm the chances of a civilization lasting that long without some sort of destruction and rebuilding occuring at somepoint become extremely slim. With Nanoha I could see using the Ancient civilization that created the Lost Logias as being the Silver Millenium era Political power, and the Mid-Childans who seem to be decended from that ancient civilization (in tech at the very least) as a modern power.

[bissek]

Quaddies wouldn't really work. For starters, they aren't a political presence. When artificial gravity made them no longer useful to their creators, they moved themselves to an isolated nook of the galaxy and stayed there. It wasn't until centuries later that they had any impact at all, and that impact was their deciding to act as a transshipment point and maintenance depot for people traveling through their territory once civilization spread far enough to run into them again.

Also, their initial cultural education as provided by their creators glossed over wars as bad things that don't happen all that often, and focused more on the impacts of great engineering works on society. Add in the fact that their greatest national hero was a human safety engineer who saved them all from euthanization when their project got canceled, and their entire culture is wired around the concepts of safety and integrity. The thought of intentionally bringing harm to another quaddie would never occur to a quaddie. Since Ranma's previous incarnation's father died at the hands of one of his own, that disqualifies the quaddies right off the bat.

[deathgeonous]

Well I might have to bite the bullet and use the Jurains. I mean I had origonally planed to from the start. It's just I decided to see my other options. But I might have to face the facts that they are perfect for my wants and needs. I'll keep looking, and I am still open to more ideas, but the Jurains see to be what I am looking for. Damn it. Well thanks for all the help, and if anyone has a really bright idea about a really good race, I'm still all ears, for I'm still looking at the moment. It's just that I'm now aknloging the fact that I may have to use them anyways.

[Comartemis]

What about DBZ's Namekians? Apparently they were a fairly well-known race in pre-canon days, well-known enough for Nappa and Vegeta to recognize Piccolo as one when they first saw him, anyway. They probably weren't a political power, but you could say that they were highly valued across the universe as teachers, philosophers and advisors.

The Forerunners from Halo come to mind; ancient civilization, extremely powerful, etc...

Outlaw Star's Ctarl-Ctarl are another possibility you could take a look at, though there's not much data on them that I can find.

[Spokavriel]

I may be wrong but the Nameks reproductive method doesn't seem compatible with humans.

If you do go Jurrian why not make it someone who isn't related to the Royal line? They would still have the age advantage but they wouldn't be as likely to have light hawk wings or access to the advantages of being linked with a Royal Tree.

Maybe even make it a sole survivor who was just a standard crewman on a Tree Ship that got lost to this system. Someone unimportant enough that they didn't bother searching for him.

Edit: I've been half asleep for the past few hours So I didn't think of where this is before. But this really fits in the Fic Research thread not the ideas one. It's looking for an element to add to a story instead of presenting a story idea that could use imput or be shared.

Just for future refference.

[deathgeonous]

Well, I was going to go with a very minor noble. Maybe a dimplomat of some kind. No chance in hell I'm giving Ranma the light hawk wings though. Really. But your idea has merit Spokavriel. I'll think on it. Hmm, maybe a bodygaurd of a noble that died along with evryone else on his ship in a crash on the outskirts of Pluto? That could work. What do you guys think?

[Comartemis]

Sounds feasible. Good luck with this, by the way.