Sailor Moon/Firefly (Serenity)

[Tenebrae]

Firefly/Serenity is a sci-fi series set hundreds of years in the future (2518). Anyone who has seen the series or the movie can skip the next few lines if they already know the background.

Mankind has fled the Earth-That-Was, for reasons that have become muddied during the centuries.
It took decades for mankind's exodus to find a new home, in a solar system with dozens of planets and hundreds of moons, each one terraformed for humanities convienience.
The planets closest to the sun were known as the Core worlds, and they formed an Alliance, to keep a unified peace. The worlds further out were known as the Rim worlds, and they did not have a unified government.
Eventually, the two factions came to blows over the Alliance's beliefs that everybody should be under their rule, better to live in safety.
This was the War for Unification.

The Rim worlds formed an Independent faction, nicknamed Browncoats after the long brown duster coats their soldiers usually wore. The two sides fought for five years, in space, air, land and sea alike.
Finally, at Serenity Valley on Hera, the Independents were outnumbered and surrendered. The common soldiers, serving in Serenity Valley refused to surrender, some continuing to fight for as long as seven weeks before being captured.
The Rim worlds had taken a heavy beating in the war, while the Core worlds remained untouched. Things settled down, the Rim worlds now nominally under the Alliance's rule, even if many people weren't happy about it.



What if the reason mankind fled the Earth-That-Was was the Great Ice (Great Freeze? I must confess that my knowledge of Sailor Moon is a little weak) that precluded the building of Crystal Tokyo?

The plot I have set out so far includes at leats one of the Senshi, most probably Saturn, turning rogue just as the Great Ice begins, believing it to be the wrong thing to do.
This Senshi would then travel with mankind into space, surviving longer that normally possible simply because she is a Senchi (and thus immortal: if Pluto can do it, why not the rest?).
She'd almost certainly support the Browncoats during the War of Unification, since the actions of the Alliance at least partially mirror those of the other Senshi.
Eventually, around 2518 (or just after the movie) the Senchi begin waking, to check up on Earth, to ensure everything is progressing properly only to find humanity has abandoned the planet entirely.
The missing Senshi, whose actions were not predicted, is still tied into the system maintaining their stasis, and thus is alerted to their awakening.

The story begins with the missing Senshi being alerted to the others awakening, most likely as a prolog.

Due to the exodus, the entire Black Moon Family arc is effectively ignored, as there's no-one around to populate Nemesis.


So, are there any questions or obvious plotholes (aside from the Black Moon Family arc issue) so far?

[Comartemis]

You're assuming that the disaster that forced Moon to freeze the Earth was something the Senshi caused. Moon froze the Earth as a means of protecting it; I'm inclined to think she probably saved it from Wiseman's first attack or a nuclear winter or something, and the ice placed the planet into a deep sleep of sorts. There's nothing in there that I--and probably the Senshi--would find "wrong" about that.

If you're going to write a Sailor Moon fanfic, it behooves you to watch the entire series first so you know what the heck you're talking about. This is the reason why I don't even try to write Ranma fanfics; there's too much there to watch/read.

I'm sorry if I come across as overly critical, but it's usually the uninformed writers who wind up creating Dark Crystal Tokyo fanfics, and I loathe those more than anything. This seems like it might have the beginnings of something like that if the Senshi are going to be pitted against Saturn and mankind.

[Tenebrae]

A valid point, I suppose.

Fortunately I've found a site which has most of the series available for download, illegal or not, so it should only take me a few months to watch them...

[Comartemis]

You might try Sailor Moon Fansubs.com. They have the entire series available for direct download or through Torrents, along with the musicals, the manga, and the Codename: Sailor V manga. It's one of my primary hangouts on the net.

[Tenebrae]

The manga as well? In that case I'll use that one instead of the one I found, it's got a better range of things.

Thanks.

[Daniel Jess Gibson]

Firefly/Serenity is a sci-fi series set hundreds of years in the future (2518). Anyone who has seen the series or the movie can skip the next few lines if they already know the background.

What if the reason mankind fled the Earth-That-Was was the Great Ice (Great Freeze? I must confess that my knowledge of Sailor Moon is a little weak) that precluded the building of Crystal Tokyo?

The plot I have set out so far includes at leats one of the Senshi, most probably Saturn, turning rogue just as the Great Ice begins, believing it to be the wrong thing to do.
This Senshi would then travel with mankind into space, surviving longer that normally possible simply because she is a Senchi (and thus immortal: if Pluto can do it, why not the rest?).
She'd almost certainly support the Browncoats during the War of Unification, since the actions of the Alliance at least partially mirror those of the other Senshi.
Eventually, around 2518 (or just after the movie) the Senchi begin waking, to check up on Earth, to ensure everything is progressing properly only to find humanity has abandoned the planet entirely.
The missing Senshi, whose actions were not predicted, is still tied into the system maintaining their stasis, and thus is alerted to their awakening.

The story begins with the missing Senshi being alerted to the others awakening, most likely as a prolog.

Due to the exodus, the entire Black Moon Family arc is effectively ignored, as there's no-one around to populate Nemesis.

So, are there any questions or obvious plotholes (aside from the Black Moon Family arc issue) so far?

Sounds good, I like the idea of Saturn (Death and Destruction) siding with humanity over the other Senshi. Just remember, Mistress 9 and Pharoah 90 are from Tau Ceti, if that's where the Firefly/Serenity system is, there are all kinds of problems. Of course the idea that Mistress Nine is the chairwoman of Blue Sun . . . it just fits.

If you're going to write a Sailor Moon fanfic, it behooves you to watch the entire series first so you know what the heck you're talking about.

Always good advice, you don't have to follow canon exactly, just be aware of what you are ignoring/changing. Also remember that canon has enough plot holes in it to drive a truck through.

One example is the opinion believes that Crystal Tokyo is a paradise because we have been told the full and complete truth by those who rule it, and their enemies opinions and testimony are to be ignored.

While another point of view is that since we are getting the story from a pack of politicians who are shading the truth to out-right lying about the situation trying to talk their way out of getting creamed (Prince Eddy: by his enemies, the various Black Moon members: by the Senshi themselves.)

As for the Senshi waking up, I keep envisioning Usagi waking up, and seeing everyone has left Earth and begins sobbing. "I was going to be in charge of everything! Wha! Why did everybody leave?!" Sweatdrops abound on the other Senshi.

[Comartemis]

One example is the opinion believes that Crystal Tokyo is a paradise because we have been told the full and complete truth by those who rule it, and their enemies opinions and testimony are to be ignored.

While another point of view is that since we are getting the story from a pack of politicians who are shading the truth to out-right lying about the situation trying to talk their way out of getting creamed (Prince Eddy: by his enemies, the various Black Moon members: by the Senshi themselves.)

This really isn't the place to be making arguements for or against CT, DJG. If you want to debate about Usagi's paradise, take it to one of the Crystal Tokyo threads.

[Heaven's Deamon]

Personally, I think that rather than have all the senshi take a side imediately on ariving, it might be better to have them split up and look at the situations on the different worlds. Some senshi could see the outer rim worlds and side with the browncoats and Hotaru, others could only see the Core worlds and think that siding with them is for the best until something happens or is revealed that causes all the senshi to band back together against a true threat......

[Comartemis]

Now that I could get behind. If CT is going to be portrayed as a distopia in the making, sooner or later Usagi should grow up and realize that Hotaru (or whoever) is right. More than anything, it's the "evil Serenity" behind the dark CTs that make me hate the cliche.

[nodregah]

More than anything, it's the "evil Serenity" behind the dark CTs that make me hate the cliche.

An 'evil Serenity' would only play further into the dark CT cliche. A dark CT is more likely to be started by a good Serenity. She does not understand human nature. It is canon that the past Senshi traveled to the future and took out an enemy that could not be defeated by their future selves. Without conflict, Man does not grow, he stagnates. Whats worse is that this stagnation of Man is a Royal Edict, put there by the 'god chosen, holy warriors'.

sorry, while I realize that this is the wrong forum for this tidbit, I felt this was the best place to inject this comment into this discussion.

I actually see the Firefly/Serenity series happening after the disruption of the creation of CT, that because Saturn (I believe she was the one stated to rebel against the rest of the Senshi) did not fall into line with the rest of the Senshi, They did not have the power to take control and create CT.

[Comartemis]

A dark CT is more likely to be started by a good Serenity. She does not understand human nature. It is canon that the past Senshi traveled to the future and took out an enemy that could not be defeated by their future selves. Without conflict, Man does not grow, he stagnates. Whats worse is that this stagnation of Man is a Royal Edict, put there by the 'god chosen, holy warriors'.

I suggest you take a look at Crystal Tokyo Revisted in the Sailor Moon forum, nodregah. "Doesn't understand human nature" my ass.

I actually see the Firefly/Serenity series happening after the disruption of the creation of CT, that because Saturn (I believe she was the one stated to rebel against the rest of the Senshi) did not fall into line with the rest of the Senshi, They did not have the power to take control and create CT.

You'd need a way to keep the girls from saving the planet and becoming the beloved saviors of mankind to do that. The way I see it, Usagi freezes the planet in response to a nuclear winter of some sort, then when the planet is healed and unfrozen, before mankind can get its' act together again, new enemies, probably Wiseman, attack the Earth and the Senshi save the world on national television or something similar. The masses then turn to the Senshi for guidance and Crystal Tokyo is founded.

If you're going to mess with Crystal Tokyo, I can't help you more than the makers of this handy little guide can; Crystal Tokyo for the Baka Mk 10

[Tenebrae]

Well, It'll take me quite a while to get through enough of the series to see them for myself (I've watched 2 episodes now, but that's all).

Personally, I think that rather than have all the senshi take a side imediately on ariving, it might be better to have them split up and look at the situations on the different worlds. Some senshi could see the outer rim worlds and side with the browncoats and Hotaru, others could only see the Core worlds and think that siding with them is for the best until something happens or is revealed that causes all the senshi to band back together against a true threat......

Now that I can see as a viable alternative. Perhaps mankind simply fled Earth-That-Was beause they didn't know that Crystal Tokyo was going to be formed, so the Senshi aren't enemies to them.

I can easily see the enemy the Senshi all unite against being Blue Sun and the men with Blue Gloves (there's a particuarly nasty point in the series when they kill about a dozen people just for talking to someone as part of their jobs: it's not a nice way to go, either). Having someone form the Senshi's past be responsible for it (and I could bring in Wiseman and the Black Moon Family here, perhaps) would bring things nicely together.

[Spokavriel]

Tenebrae there's a little rule against nested quotes. The quick fix is adding a couple more quote flags before and after the nested quote in the middle of what you quoted so that it's 3 seperate boxes instead of a box in a box.

Now for something earlier.

One example is the opinion believes that Crystal Tokyo is a paradise because we have been told the full and complete truth by those who rule it, and their enemies opinions and testimony are to be ignored.

While another point of view is that since we are getting the story from a pack of politicians who are shading the truth to out-right lying about the situation trying to talk their way out of getting creamed (Prince Eddy: by his enemies, the various Black Moon members: by the Senshi themselves.)

This really isn't the place to be making arguements for or against CT, DJG. If you want to debate about Usagi's paradise, take it to one of the Crystal Tokyo threads.

Com in this case you are wrong. It was a cute thought related to this story idea. So it fits perfectly. You are dragging it more into crystal tokyo discussions after you stated this.

[Tenebrae]

Tenebrae there's a little rule against nested quotes. The quick fix is adding a couple more quote flags before and after the nested quote in the middle of what you quoted so that it's 3 seperate boxes instead of a box in a box.

Oh, I'm sorry. I've not seen that rule on any other forums, so I forgot it. I'll try and remember in future.

[Staren]

Perhaps what you might want to look at is perhaps two factions of people after the great freeze. Those that belive the Senshi are their best option and are willing to follow them, and a group that don't want to or can't follow them. And it's that second group that actually leaves Earth.

What would be interesting is if none of the Senshi took into account people who would rather try to make their own way, and it is the lack of the most reourceful citizens that keeps CT from becoming what it could have been.