General Questions mk 2

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I got some questions

1-In the anime OAV of Natsumi and Kurumi Ryoga trained Akane for her to be able to fight the sisters, my question is ¿How much does she improves? After the training can she be capable of holding her own against other female fighters like Ukyo??, this one goes for the manga too since by some point in the manga Akane does seem to have improved her skills a bit.

2-Besides martial arts do Mousse and Ryoga are good in other fields like Ranma seems to be?

3-About Mousse when it comes only to Brute force where exactly does he rank?? Is he stronger in brute force than the fiancés and Kuno?

4-In the Manga exactly what is the relationship between Kuno’s family?

5-¿What is the most unselfish or good thing that Nabiki has done?

6-For the ones who has read Takahashi recent series Inuyasha, How much probabilities Ranma has against an enemy like Sesshoumaru???

[claymade]

1-In the anime OAV of Natsumi and Kurumi Ryoga trained Akane for her to be able to fight the sisters, my question is ¿How much does she improves? After the training can she be capable of holding her own against other female fighters like Ukyo, this one goes for the manga too since by some point in the manga Akane does seem to have improved her skills a bit.

In the Natsume and Kurumi arc, Ryouga's training, IIRC, brought her back from a dip in skill caused by her abandoning her training recently (which is another anime-only fabrication with no correspondence in the manga).

In the manga, I don't recall any indication that her relative skill changes much. While she is probably getting better, the same could be said about the other girls as well.

3-About Mousse when it comes only to Brute force where exactly does he rank?? Is he stronger in brute force than the fiancés and Kuno?

Unclear exactly where he ranks, but Cologne does describe his lack of raw strength as his weak point. After he undergoes an extensive strength/stamina training at the hands of a Jizo statue, however, he shocks Ranma with his newly acquired boost in that attribute.

Compare their strength:
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book11/RM11-173.jpg
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book33/RM33-113.gif

Interestingly enough, we're never shown Mousse in another all-out battle with Ranma after that point, so it's unclear the full extent of how the overall rankings have changed. Might Mousse be able to beat him now? There's no way to say for sure...

4-In the Manga exactly what is the relationship between Kuno’s family?

Pretty much mutual disdain all around. The only unknown is the relationship between Kodachi and the Principal, who are never shown interacting.

5-¿What is the most unselfish or good thing that Nabiki has done?

Probably trying to set Ranma and Akane back up for free after she was the fiancee--and then intervening (at what could have been risk to herself) for Akane's sake when she heard Ranma was planning a "revenge" that would have fallen on her sister.

[antimatterenergy]

unclear exactly where he ranks, but Cologne does describe his lack of raw strength as his weak point. After he undergoes an extensive strength/stamina training at the hands of a Jizo statue, however, he shocks Ranma with his newly acquired boost in that attribute.

Compare their strength:
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/ ... 11-173.jpg
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/ ... 33-113.gif

I didn't get why Ranma didn't just break out and/or lift that bell. We do see him lift/support other things in that weight range in the manga even while in his girl form. For instance the boulder she stuffed into the Orochi's mouth or the time Ryoga lifted the massive ice slabs while standing on her head. Considering other feats he has done he really should have been able to lift it. He wouldn't even had to lift it all the way only lift one side enough to tip it over.

[claymade]

For instance the boulder she stuffed into the Orochi's mouth or the time Ryoga lifted the massive ice slabs while standing on her head.

Well, he was underwater with the boulder, so he'd have had the buoyancy force helping him. (Not to mention that Akane was in immediate, mortal danger. That's the kind of situation where even normal people start lifting cars--when their loved ones are trapped under them.)

As for the ice slabs, that wasn't even an example of arm strength to begin with. Nor was it lifting either, but simply preventing his legs from flat-out buckling. (As opposed to Ryouga, who was lifting them with arm strength--and from a position of absolutely terrible leverage to boot--with enough force that the horizontal component of it was enough to squash Mikado between them.)

Consequently, I don't find the fact that Ranma was not strong enough to lift the bell to be all that terribly incongruous.

[Drawde]

Not to mention that Takahashi was quite willing to adjust things (like how strong or tough a character is) to make a joke work.

[SpaceKnight of Chaos]

Antimatterenergy:
*The dragon grows to full size and flies away at the episode's end.
*It's not really clear. When Ryoga meets the female piglet as P-chan, there's a bunch of squeals from her followed by a "translation" screen with the words "Help Me!". Ryoga seems to understand it, though he might just be making a leap of logic from her body language and the fact he's been listening to the farmers chase her throughout the episode.
*I don't recall Akane ever hitting Ranma for flirting with a guy... though if you're referring to the anime's take on the Love-Pill Bracelet, she might do so there, it's been a while since I've seen it. In the anime, as in the manga, Ranma flirts with guys simply to get something he wants or to otherwise take advantage of them- the guy from the episode I just mentioned offered "her" a cup of tea and a ride in his yacht.
*Yeah, Ranma's penmanship is pretty bad in the anime. There's an episode where he has to fight a practitioner of Martial Arts Calligraphy and it takes him about two-thirds of the episode to arrange the fight, as Sotatsu says his handwriting is too poor to make him worthy of fighting (Ryoga's, by comparison, is beautiful, as is Shampoo's).

Whatever:
*It's hard to say if she even has improved rather than simply reattaining her former level: Kurumi isn't exactly willing to fight Akane the second time around, and when it gets serious it's Ranma who does the real work- creating a horizontal Hiryu Shoten Ha and using Akane as a projectile.
*Off the top of my head, in the manga, Mousse seems to have some knowledge of chemistry (creates a firework intended to create a rain of roses), Chinese history and fire-breathing. I don't remember what Ryoga knows in the manga, but in the anime he's a fairly skilled calligraphist.
*I think Mousse is generally accepted as the weakest but fastest of the three rivals, which makes him roughly even with the girls (if not slightly inferior) but stronger than Tatewaki.
*I can tell you in the anime that Kuno despises his dad, Kodachi adores him, and the principal seems both very fond of Kodachi and to relish making Kuno's life a living hell. In the manga, Kodachi never meets the principal as far as I know, though Kuno still disdains his father.
*Manga, I don't know. Anime... the one thing that springs to mind is letting Kasumi win the go-kart race so that she and Tofu can have the dinner (though everyone else ends up coming anyway).

[SpaceKnight of Chaos]

A query about Happosai: why precisely are Soun and Genma so scared of him? In the manga, while a pervert, he seems to be pretty much a harmless nuisance if left alone.

On a different topic, and I realise that this probably belongs better in Fix Research, is anyone here familiar with Terry Pratchett's Discworld series? Specifically Nanny Ogg, of the Lancre Coven? Well, in Maskerade (a parody of The Phantom of the Opera/opera in general), she writes a 'cookbook' (with hidden extras) called "The Joy of Snacks". Given that three of Ranma's would-be love-interests are both skilled chefs and quite interested in the physical side of the relationship, if a copy of this book somehow ended up in Nerima, what do you think the likely results would be?

[claymade]

A query about Happosai: why precisely are Soun and Genma so scared of him? In the manga, while a pervert, he seems to be pretty much a harmless nuisance if left alone.

That's assuming he decides to leave you alone. Initially, they had good reason to be afraid of him--his appearance would signify that he was either there to resume their "training", or else for revenge for what they did to escape from him the first time.

Fortunately for them, he quickly focused on Ranma rather than either of them. And after their initial fear, they are fairly calm when he is "left alone." It's usually only when something comes up that might actually incite his ire that they start to actually act scared--which is only reasonable, given how dangerous Happi is when he is, in fact, ticked off.

[pspinler]

On a different topic, and I realise that this probably belongs better in Fix Research, is anyone here familiar with Terry Pratchett's Discworld series? Specifically Nanny Ogg, of the Lancre Coven? Well, in Maskerade (a parody of The Phantom of the Opera/opera in general), she writes a 'cookbook' (with hidden extras) called "The Joy of Snacks". Given that three of Ranma's would-be love-interests are both skilled chefs and quite interested in the physical side of the relationship, if a copy of this book somehow ended up in Nerima, what do you think the likely results would be?

Other than the amusement of the unique crossover, probably nothing too out of the ordinary, at least, too out of the ordinary for a manga story. Ranma already has experience with several kinds of non-normal food.

Nanny Ogg's concoctions would be terribly embarrassing, and funny, and lead to mad hijinks and Ranma being a girl and probably pursued by Kuno for some silly reason. Then they'd eventually wear off, and things would return more or less to normal.

-- Pat


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[SpaceKnight of Chaos]

Soun and Genma both claim to be the masters of their particular branches of the Anything-Goes style. How do these two stack up as martial artists (both practitioners and teachers) against both each other and their opposite canon counterparts? Off the top of my head, in the anime, Genma:
-has just finished a 14-year-long training journey when the series starts.
-spars often with Ranma.
-has been seen jogging at least once (Close Call! P-chan's Secret)
-trained Ryoga so well in just three days that he was Ranma's exact match, perhaps even a little better.
-can grow into a giant, but has only been seen doing this as a panda.

While Soun:
-has been seen sparring once with Akane and, I think, once with Genma.
-possibly knows a technique designed to terrify the ones it's used on (Demon Head- this might just be a sight gag based around how mad he is, but he does use it to ward off the ghosts in the Cave of Lost Love and to spook Akane, Ranma, Ryoga and Happosai at the climax of Nabiki's ghost story).
-is able to grow into a giant.
-is apparently able to shape his aura into solid objects; whenever he turns into a giant, he's always garbed in samurai armor (and he didn't just put it on beforehand- when he shrinks down, it disappears), in Curse of the Scribbled Panda he creates a katana and a spear, and in Pick-a-Peck O' Happosai, he creates two (sheathed) katanas.

Next questions: discounting the items that appear in both canons, which canon has more magic items show up? And in which one are they more commonly bought from someone (for example, in the anime, Shampoo buys the Red Thread from a Chinese merchant, and a travelling salesman sells Ranma Shadow Alter-Ego Incense and Powdered Jusenkyo Water)?

A common cliche in Ranma fanon is the "food duel"; whenever they sit down to a meal, Ranma and Genma lunge and poke at each other's dishes in an attempt to steal food from each other, usually described as a form of speed & precision training. The thing is, does this have any basis in canon? I've never seen this happen at all in the anime, bar "Genma Takes a Walk", where a similar scene happens between Soun and Genma over a potato and only because they're arguing.

[mondu_the_fat]

Soun and Genma both claim to be the masters of their particular branches of the Anything-Goes style. How do these two stack up as martial artists (both practitioners and teachers) against both each other and their opposite canon counterparts? Off the top of my head, in the anime, Genma:
-has just finished a 14-year-long training journey when the series starts.
-spars often with Ranma.
-has been seen jogging at least once (Close Call! P-chan's Secret)
-trained Ryoga so well in just three days that he was Ranma's exact match, perhaps even a little better.
-can grow into a giant, but has only been seen doing this as a panda.

Genma created Umisenken and yamasenken in the manga.

A common cliche in Ranma fanon is the "food duel"; whenever they sit down to a meal, Ranma and Genma lunge and poke at each other's dishes in an attempt to steal food from each other, usually described as a form of speed & precision training.

Off the top of my head, Devil's cradle and the story where Akane becomes a doll feature Genma and Ranma fighting over food. Both Akane and Suon picture "Dinner at the saotomes" as Ranma and Genma fighting over food in the Picolet story.

[SpaceKnight of Chaos]

I meant to say before that I was leaving the 'senkens out of it: because the anime was ended before the author came up with them, it's really not possible to say whether or not anime-Genma knew them. Using them as evidence to prove manga-Genma's superiority would be... well... it'd be unfair.

By food duel, I mean specifically "sit down at the table and, while the others are eating, trying to swipe food from each other's plate whilst staying seated". Fighting over the fact Genma has pinched some food from Ranma's plate does happen in the anime- usually, he's moving around a lot, like when Ranma chases him out of the baths with Genma drinking Ranma's milk.

On a different question, what are the worst thing(s) that Soun and Genma have done, together or individually, in manga or anime? For Genma, I think disowning Ranma for unknowingly eating his sweets in the anime (the episode "Ryoga Inherits the Saotome School?") has to be near the top of the list.

[SpaceKnight of Chaos]

Just some various more questions from me:
*In the anime, it's stated in the third episode of the 7th season (Nihao! Jusenkyo Guide) that the water of Jusenkyo comes from/is connected to myriad underground channels and reservoirs. Exactly how incompatible with the manga is this?

*What are the worst thing(s) that Soun and Genma have done, together or individually, in manga or anime? For Genma, I think disowning Ranma for unknowingly eating his sweets in the anime (the episode "Ryoga Inherits the Saotome School?") has to be near the top of the list.

*This question most likely applies only to the anime canon, where Kodachi seems a bit more like she actually feels for Ranma, but anyway. Kodachi Kuno is filthy rich, at least believes herself to be head over heels for Ranma, and is willing to do just about anything for him if he asks. Thusly, if Ranma were to ask her (perhaps reinforcing his request with some flirting), she'd undoubtedly pay for a plane trip to China and back. How would Ranma react if told this, both to the fact and to the obvious insinuations?

*In both canons, Ranma does occasionally have some money- however, especially in the anime, he rarely has much. Where is he likely to get it from, and what does he most likely spend it on?

*Beyond Ranma's first official duel with Ryoga in the anime, in what other episodes does Nabiki organize betting on Ranma's fights?

*Which canon has the more magic items directly relating to love? The anime has, off the top of my head, the Love-Pill Bracelet, Red Thread of Fate, "Destined Love" Sakura-mochi and Mushrooms of Love.

[antimatterenergy]

*In the anime, it's stated in the third episode of the 7th season (Nihao! Jusenkyo Guide) that the water of Jusenkyo comes from/is connected to myriad underground channels and reservoirs. Exactly how incompatible with the manga is this?

Not incompatible. All we know is that the waters come from Jusendo. Considering they are artificially piped there (phoenix and dragon tap) they could be piped or run anywhere but really unlikely that it is world wide.

*This question most likely applies only to the anime canon, where Kodachi seems a bit more like she actually feels for Ranma, but anyway. Kodachi Kuno is filthy rich, at least believes herself to be head over heels for Ranma, and is willing to do just about anything for him if he asks. Thusly, if Ranma were to ask her (perhaps reinforcing his request with some flirting), she'd undoubtedly pay for a plane trip to China and back. How would Ranma react if told this, both to the fact and to the obvious insinuations?

Realistically speaking Ranma should have very little trouble getting to Jusenkyo anytime he wanted. He swam and traveled by foot the first time, he could buy a ticket -via saving money, asking/tricking anyone of the Kuno's, he could steal the money, he could sneak onto a boat and ride trains through most of China, etc... The only reason I can think of why he doesn't besides the Author not wanting him to is that some magic concerning Jusenkyo prevents him and all the others from thinking any of those ways.

*In both canons, Ranma does occasionally have some money- however, especially in the anime, he rarely has much. Where is he likely to get it from, and what does he most likely spend it on?

In the anime it is mentioned he gets an allowance. Who gives it to him is unknown.

In the manga it is not told but we do see him take the occasional job but beyond that it is unknown. Could think of a few ways like stealing from Kuno/muggers/etc.., pawning stuff he finds, picking and selling expensive mushrooms or tea leaves, getting a cut of the pay for the monster hunting, underground fighting rings, hustling people maybe in some game like pool, etc...

As for what he spends it on (though he also might steal some of the stuff or scavenge it):. Food very likely, possibly books but could get those from the library since it is free, possibly clothing though he could take old clothes and make new clothes from it or take the Tendo's old clothes and sew them to fit him/her(we do see him make at least one costume) but he'd have to buy some things like shoes, and occasionally giving money to Nabiki - we see him pay when Nabiki runs leaving the bill, pays for the cure for Akane sleeping from her, pays when Nabiki blackmails him (but haggled for a lower price), bought Nabiki expensive Sushi to pay her back for destroying her ticket, etc... Buy magical items like the women repellent. As the manga progressed it seemed to me that he had more money, tough this is just an opinion. This is based on him having more clothing - he starts wearing pajamas for example and may have as much female clothing as Akane does by the end of the manga (multiple Kimono's, multiple different style dresses, Multiple swim suits, multiple different style shoes, even multiple purses -while training mirror clone to hunt boys both him and the clone had a purse and bracelets) and he is able to pay Nabiki off (though he does complain and is not happy doing so)

[Drawde]

Remember that Genma has a job with Tofu. Tofu never officially left, so nothing says he didn't still have the job at the end of the series. I figure that part of the money goes to Soun, some to Ranma as an allowance, and whatever he chooses with the rest. He wasn't shown to be lazy until later in the series, so that could have been one of the many changes Takahashi made for humor. And I'm pretty sure him drinking all the time is pure fanon.