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Postby jasonjkay » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:41 am

Just thought of one, Im pretty sure Gin and Kin by Materia-Blade has Ranma locked in girl form due to his male form getting badly burnt lungs during his fight with saffron and his girl side has normal working lungs so he locks himself in order to survive.
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Postby talonhunter » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:03 pm

I was reading one story not that long ago where to save his life, because of multiple trama including face damages, not only was Ranma to live as a girl, but was locked to prevent ANY changes due to the fact the damage was too severe and without implant help, there would be no chance whatsoever for Ranma...The only other thing I remember about it is that the Amazon got involved and that it was caused by the jocks who no longer were top dog anymore and proceded to get HER stoned on some date rape type drug...
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Postby Drawde » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:11 pm

Spokavriel wrote: Wait. That kind of reminds me of some things I heard mentioned in some Wheel of Time crosses. Isn't the Male side of the Power supposed to be tainted by the big bad enemy or something? So wouldn't some of those possibly fit too?

Yes, it's tainted in the beginning. But, by WoT canon, access to the Power is from your soul (or whatever), regardless of your current body. Two of the Forsaken were brought back to life, but deliberately in bodies of the wrong gender. They still used the side of the Power that their original gender had though. Ranma's access would always be to the male half.
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Postby Spokavriel » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:21 pm

What I mean is that because of how the Male side of the power is Tainted aren't they "Gentling" or something like that all the males that show any powers? Wouldn't that make it so there are Ranma Fics out there where Ranma has to be Female even without being someone who chan Channel?
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Postby nodregah » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:08 pm

Also by WoT canon, saidan, the male half of the One Power, is cleansed. The female channelers who have bonded male channelers as warders can see the male side of the one power but cannot touch it. It is so foreign to them that they cannot tell that the taint is gone and must trust their warders that it is gone.
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Postby Spokavriel » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:40 am

Not sure when things are in which state. But I'm willing to bet there has to be some WoT fics out there aside from Cloud Dreamers where Ranma has to go around as girl type to avoid a lethal situation.
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Postby Drawde » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:23 am

Spokavriel wrote: What I mean is that because of how the Male side of the power is Tainted aren't they "Gentling" or something like that all the males that show any powers? Wouldn't that make it so there are Ranma Fics out there where Ranma has to be Female even without being someone who chan Channel?

Gentling is simply cutting a male off from the Power. It wouldn't do anything to someone who can't channel.
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Postby Spokavriel » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:47 am

I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to say what I think would be possible. Aren't there allot of Matriarchies in Wheel of Time? And allot of Taboos? Why wouldn't a powerful male be able to get into a situation where someone might put out a kill on site order for Ranma's male side?
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Postby Drawde » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:58 pm

I haven't bothered with WoT in years. Lost interest in it. But I don't think most of Ranma's problems would be because he was male, but because of what he could do. Though some of the groups may dislike him just because he's male, the things he can do aren't part of the setting, so would probably be thought of as him being part of the evil group. He can outfight any of the Aiel (spelling?), and the only thing that would cause him problems are the channelers.
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Postby jasonjkay » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:54 am

talonhunter wrote:I was reading one story not that long ago where to save his life, because of multiple trama including face damages, not only was Ranma to live as a girl, but was locked to prevent ANY changes due to the fact the damage was too severe and without implant help, there would be no chance whatsoever for Ranma...The only other thing I remember about it is that the Amazon got involved and that it was caused by the jocks who no longer were top dog anymore and proceded to get HER stoned on some date rape type drug...
Sorry for not answearing earlier as I was unable to access the internet. Anyway I know this story and it's a very good one despite being only one chapter. It's Shattered by Coengar2.
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Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:56 pm

I read Shattered, and did not like it. The writing was technically okay, but people were behaving wrongly. In an emergency, in the hospital, you do not smile and chuckle. You may smile bleakly, or give a grim chuckle, but you don't forget a friend is in terrible shape. You try to work around it, even as you try to keep the social niceties.

Then, too, it was more a Nabiki story than a Ranma story. She didn't change nearly enough by the end.

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Postby talonhunter » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:47 pm

That was the whole point though, because most people DON'T know how to respond in situations like that. Granted, the story takes a slightly jaded view at the situation, how would you respond to a High stress situation like that when even it was far from the normal patterns. I'm not trying to justify the story or approach, but it did make me think, and thats what draws my attention in a story, otherwise I wouldn't have thought about it after Spokarivel brought the matter of this thread up.

sorry, didnt mean to go off on a rant like that.
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Postby Spokavriel » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:50 pm

Without some discussion what use would forums be. At least there's already a link for the fic. It's not like other times where people ranted about a story and didn't give a link or ranted about a story that didn't fit the search.
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Postby talonhunter » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:56 pm

True, the only reason I didnt post it was I had it on my drive and couldnt find where I put it at. Thanks to jasonjkay for finding the story though
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