Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:16 pm

Spokavriel wrote: There is a while before he consciously realized the Tuxedo Mask fights were real and not just some strange dream. Before then he was in pure reactive mode and didn't exactly have much choice about it. He was compelled and acted.

Just as a note to Noy, in the manga there isn't any memory divide over what he does. He just doesn't know exactly who's telling him to find the Ginzuishou in his dreams, and hopes that he can regain his memory upon getting it because he knows he's forgetting something important.

Noy Telinú wrote:So, Jupiter thunder thing just because mixed up with lightnight or is it actually thunder somehow?
Spockie explained how in the anime, and in the manga it can come straight down from the sky (though there's still the antenna, and it's possible (it's hard for me to tell) that she fired the lightning up for it to come down). That's how she killed Nephrite, after blinding him with her Flower Hurricane attack. And she didn't use the name of the lightning attack, either. (She still made a verbal production out of it, though.)

Noy Telinú wrote:We are still unsure what is with the reincarnation Setsuna, right?

Since Spockie's covering the anime again... Here's the other choice! :P

In the manga, she dies in the second story arc, in the future, and is shown to be reincarnated in the third story arc, during the present setting of the story. Since we never see anyone go to the Door of Time in the fourth dimension, we can only guess whether Pluto's last incarnation is still there, considering that things work differently in the fourth dimension (such as time not existing there; whatever that means). But if her past incarnation is still standing guard, it does make for a convenient explanation as for why she doesn't return to guarding the Door of Time.

Noy Telinú wrote:... How does THAT work?

It probably doesn't. XD;;
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:18 pm

The gates are outside of time. She is Always at the gates but using them a little lets her be other places too.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:22 pm

Other places and TIME?

If so, it is very easy to understand why many fics depict her as being a manipulator trying to get the future she wants...
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:28 pm

She doesn't appear to do anything other than guard the gates before she gets reincarnated.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:32 pm

Yes. Ok.

But, she COULD send Setsuna her back in time?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:46 pm

That's probably asking for trouble of the paradox kind. At least, in the manga, being too close to one of your selves can be bad (Usagi was beginning to feel faint and could be seen through because of her proximity to her future self), and touching is basically the end (which is why Pluto stopped time, to prevent two Ginzuishous from coming into contact with each other). So, either being close to herself could make it difficult if not impossible to use her power on herself, or using said power on her other self is equivalent to touching and thus fool of doom.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:52 pm

Hmm... So risky, Hm?

So then how foes the time travel work? Chibiusa goes back in time and creates that whole mess...
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:20 pm

Takeuchi pretty much retcons the time traveling bits in the following story arc (the third) and in the fifth. This is because she didn't plan beyond the second story arc, which is partly evidenced by the three outer senshi that appear in the third story arc yet are completely absent in the future of the second, while the inner senshi's outfits haven't changed. And at the end of the manga, it sounds like everyone is sent to the thirtieth century, which is completely different from the history given in the second story arc (where Usagi becomes queen at the start of the twenty-first century and Chibi-Usa is over nine-hundred years old).

In the third story arc, Pluto pretty much says that "fate" can change, because many of the contributing factors that led up to Saturn's awakening wasn't supposed to happen. There are several conclusions one can draw from that, and it's probably safe to go with either one of them, so that's a paradox or two that you don't have to worry about.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:42 pm

So... the future is changed...

But Chibusa was still alive at the end...

So... What gives?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:16 pm

So...

Is Chibiusa in danger of disappearing forever?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spokavriel » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:34 pm

Useful plot point at first but after that season/arc it never really matters again.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:48 pm

Huh... so... wait... that means... she's already been conceived! D:

Wow...

I remember reading somewhere that V met Beryl before and kept killing her. Is this true?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:50 pm

In the manga at least, Venus killed Beryl in the Silver Millennium, and kills her again in the present.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Ok. got it-wait... If she died, how did? It was Metallia, wasn't it?
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