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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:04 am

...And here I was on an emotional high after finishing the game this evening. Way to kill my good mood, Coney-chan. :|

...Nah, I'm only kidding. :D Personally, I find it more likely that it wasn't in the game because there wouldn't have been enough space for it, compared to the Battle Maison alone. Yeah, I'm probably wrong, but speculation and such is too deep for those with simple minds like myself. >^_^<

...Because really, it's all too easy for my mind to get blown to pieces with each new Generation of games. My tolerance for difficulty was maxed out with Emerald's Battle Frontier, circa 2005-2007; for the life of me I know it's possible to get all the Gold Symbols, but Tucker and Brandon were the only ones I could beat. Everyone else? "We don't serve your kind here," usually backed up by a Milotic. *sigh* Stinking Milotic and it's fancy Mirror Coat.

Anyway, as I was about to say before my mind started snacking on danishes and soda pop, I'm just logging in to report that my mind is officially blown to the far corners of Kansas. :o I'll give my thoughts on the game once I've gotten them back again.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Gnudist » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:16 am

Battle frontier, or as I called it "the only fun part of the game"


Aside from being actually challenging it was the big thing I hadn't already done in ruby
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby KonokoHasano » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:07 pm

CRBWildcat wrote:...Nah, I'm only kidding. :D Personally, I find it more likely that it wasn't in the game because there wouldn't have been enough space for it, compared to the Battle Maison alone. Yeah, I'm probably wrong, but speculation and such is too deep for those with simple minds like myself. >^_^<

No. We have this interview, and then some translated bits from it...

Q:Why wasn't the Battle Frontier in the remakes?

A:This question is connected with my previous answer. We didn't put the BF in ORAS for this very reason. Interviewer's note: In short he means that they didn't include the BF because only a very small part of the players would have fully appreciated and made use of this feature; nowadays players get bored and frustrated more easily and they aren't interested in things that are so demanding/challenging.

A:The basic structure of Pokemon games and the elements that keep the series together like Gyms, Elite Four and Champions are not going to change. We still haven't decided which of the newly-introduced features we're going to keep; we never distinguish between "experiments" and "features to keep". It all depends on the fans' reaction.

It's funny how they say it all depends on fans' reaction, especially since they've removed various features that were popular, and 'character customization' is said to only really be a Kalos thing at this point.
Q:We noticed ORAS had a lower difficulty level compared to previous Pokemon games. What bought you to this decision? Any chance that future games will have the possibility to adjust difficulty level as seen in Black and White 2?

A:What? How come you've already played the games? hearty laughter [the games were supposed to come out in Italy the day after the interview] We created a "balanced" game that was suited for our time and age, where everyone is very busy and young people have various means of entertainment. Using smartphones and other devices they can access a great number of games, so the time they dedicate to a single game is less than in the past. The player can choose to keep on playing after the main story and continue to the post-game, where the difficulty rises and there are much more difficult Trainers and challenges to overcome.


Q:Why wasn't the Battle Frontier in the remakes?


A:This question is connected with my previous answer. We didn't put the BF in ORAS for this very reason.


I honestly can't believe the idea of there 'not being enough room'.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:47 pm

*shrug* Makes a bit more sense. Next time you talk about things like this, though, would you be able to provide the link from the start, please? When I first read the post, I'd thought it was strictly your opinion and not something official.

There's still a measure of truth to what they said, though. I can speak from experience on that.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby KonokoHasano » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:52 pm

What truth? The bullshit that just smartphones are a common thing, that people are incapable of being able to deal with a challenge, and so they should work on dumbing things down to appeal to the lowest common denominator?
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:31 pm

...Don't swear at me, please. Thank you. :x

But to answer your question, it's the "challenge" bit. Let me explain what I've dealt with as far as that goes:

Battle Tower: Sapphire - Best Battle Tower streak was 85, and this after I started using non-Hoenn Pokemon. Never did get that Gold trophy, or whatever it was called.

Battle Frontier: Emerald - Obtained all the Silver Symbols and two Gold Symbols (the Battle Dome's and the Pyramid's). In both games there were 376 usable Pokemon at this point, and Abilities had been introduced.

Battle Frontier: Platinum - Four Silver Symbols out of Five, with the Battle Factory being the sole absentee. No Gold Symbols. Usable Pokemon at around 470 or so. Typing was no longer a factor in determining ATK or SP. ATK usage.

Battle Subway: B/W, B2/W2 - Limited success in the Subway, particularly in Double Battles. Several attempts were made to reach the Subway Masters in the Super Battles in both Single and Double. All have ended in failure, with few---if any---victories to my credit. Usable Pokemon: more than 610.

Pokemon World Tournament: B/W, B2/W2 - Reached the Champions tournament. Failed to win a single one, winning only one battle in the five or six times I tried to play it. Against the likes of Red, Cynthia and Steven Stone and playing on their terms, my A-game was never going to be enough.

Battle Maison: X/Y - Succeeded at Single, Double, and Multi Battles. Haven't won a Super Battle even once, and it hasn't been for a lack of trying. Usable Pokemon: around 690 or so. Hidden Abilities are much more prevalent here than they were in the 5th Gen games. The addition of the Fairy-type mixed things up a bit as far as some pre-existing Mons were concerned.

Ratings Battles: X/Y - Lost three to four times as many games as I've won, which aren't many. Not too surprising, since these are real people here and not computer players.

You'll notice a trend here: with each new aspect, feature or tweak that they make in the games, my success level drops in response. What I never mentioned in that list is that along with the new Pokemon, newer Abilities and who-knows-how-many new moves have made their appearance. There's been an increasing emphasis on IVs and EV training (though some could say that's always been there). I've been trying my best, and my best keeps falling flat. To put it another way: yes, Virginia, the post-game is too stinking hard for me. (And there is no Santa Claus.) Putting a Battle Frontier in OR/AS would've utterly swamped me. This is not my "kidding" face.

Putting aside what I've been saying, though, I see no need to complain about the Frontier's absence or the reasons given. Part of it's because the games are remakes of Ruby and Sapphire, not Emerald. The rest of it is that ultimately, for all that I've been in love with the games since the 2nd Gen, I don't feel that any aspect of them is even worth complaining about. Because for all the hype, for all the cash they generate and the professional tournaments they've spawned, when you get right down to it, only one question needs to be asked regardless:

"Are the games still fun?"
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Makoto » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:39 pm

Does communicating with anyone on your Friend List circulate your Secret Base? Or do you still have to do that manually? I know I get some Bases every time I go online, but don't know if it works the same with Friends.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:17 pm

Not to my knowledge. I think it's just StreetPass and those codes that send them over.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Lioconvoy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:53 am

Last I checked both your bases are on my list. I haven't seen anyone else here at the same time I'm online. I haven't found Makoto's yet, but Al is one of my secret pals. Hey Cal why doesn't Al have any pals?
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:12 am

Probably because I haven't Synced the game since just after the base was established. ()^_^
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Makoto » Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:20 am

Lioconvoy wrote:Last I checked both your bases are on my list. I haven't seen anyone else here at the same time I'm online. I haven't found Makoto's yet, but Al is one of my secret pals. Hey Cal why doesn't Al have any pals?


You probably have an out-of-date version of mine, though. I think I've changed locations 2-3 times since the last time we were both online at the same time. :)

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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Lioconvoy » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:27 am

So should we share are bases QR codes?
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby CRBWildcat » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:31 pm

Probably wouldn't hurt. I went ahead and grabbed the code for yours yesterday.

I tried the mini-games at Pokemon.com for the first time yesterday. Man, those things are addictive.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Lioconvoy » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:22 am

It's such a pain in the but to get Pokemon from Ruby to Omega Ruby. Three games, you have to go through three games. Why haven't they come up with a method to get Pokemon from Red and Blue to the latest gen yet?

Anyway I've noticed Circe has been leveling up at Pokemon.com. So when are the rest of you going to surpass my level 15? Next time I blink I'm sure Circe will.
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Re: Pokemon!!

Postby Makoto » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:50 pm

They cut their ties with Gen 1 and 2, Pokemon data-wise, when they released Sapphire and Ruby. The shift in hardware and the way they changed the Pokemon data structures insured they couldn't simply import Pokemon from the previous generations (that, and they'd probably have to ADD a bunch of random data to each imported Pokemon, too...).

Eh, I haven't really felt like leveling up on the newer pokemon.com as I did the previous version, so to speak. :|

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