Henshin boost, whiny Ranma

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Henshin boost, whiny Ranma

Postby WG_Writer » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:12 pm

*basic idea phase*
Ranma Sailor Moon crossover:
Basic Premis: Most of the Sailor Senshi are not martial artists. General tactics are 'Blast until it dies'. But what if this were true in the Silver Millenium as well? Wouldn't Queen Serenity have something to help them. Since they are Princesses they wouldn't have time for training. So in addition to the Sailor Senshi there were also the Sailor Kensei. The Kensei were people who could 'merge' with a Sailor Senshi, they would bring the skill that the Senshi lacked. In an emergance the Senshi could pass the 'reins' to the Kensei.
Sailor Kensei: Has a minor transformation, the fuku is similar to Sailor Senshi except unlike the various Senshi the Kensei is more standardized. Its done this way to reduce the chances of a Kensei from being mistaken for a Sailor Senshi.
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That was Kensei Ranma-chan
(uniform still being altered for uniqueness as necessary, it does currently look liks Saturn, but even Saturn has Red bows)
Rank amoung the Kensei is displayed by the Broch Jewel, Red for leader, Green, for second in command, Blue for third in command, forth is Black, and fifth is Grey. anything else is just for identification (*cough*nameless minion*cough*).
The main abilities: Kensei no Senshi - must be in physical contact with a senshi (works transformed or not for either of them). By default the Kensei is in the back of the mind of the Senshi, the Senshi has the skils and abilities of the Kenshi, but not the experiance or memories (memories can be shared). They can switch and be the Senshi in the back of the combined mind, but the body switches as well (similar but not related to a Jusenkyo transformation. Also while merged thoughts can be shared between them but are not without the will behind the thought (not to say an absent minded though couldn't slip through). While merged all feelings are passed on, however pain is numbed due to the magics, for emergancy purposes. The transformation grants Senshi protection, but no attacks.
Examples:
Ranma allows Usagi (not Sailor Moon) to do the Hirushotenha.
Kensei Ranma allows Sailor Uranus to pull of a Amaguriken with the space sword.
Sailor Venus Ranma fights various demons while Minako was KOed
The Basic Kensei Names are: Light, Shadow, Illusion, Stregnth, Change. (these are not thought out, just first thoughts)
Ranma would be Kensei Light (most of his normal use attacks are rather hard to miss, Umisenken not counting since he only used it for an arc.)
In the Silver Millenium, Ranma was Kensei Light. Her job was more that of a spare. But in truth she could merge with Sereinty(princess). Thus she was a bodyguard that could go undetected. She was seperated during the attack. The other Kensei were all on the various worlds seeing to other business and were not sent forward. Ranma was but since Kensei magic must have chaotic elements (not chaos magic, just less controlled order) to work it resulted in a male born kensei.
Drawbacks:
While the Kensei is in control of the powers they are limited to first level (not super or higher). Pluto cannot merge with a Kensei due to the nature of her powers. When seperating after a merge the Kensei will look like the one they merged with for an equal time that they were merged for. To unmerge both must want it, this does mean that the Senshi can force a Kensei to stay merged potentially indefinately, however, the Senshi can force them out, which overrides the Kensei's desire to maintain the merge. This results in the time the Kensei is stuck in the wrong form to be doubled.
Loose plot:
Standard Ranma has had a bad day, for a twist its Nabiki that mallets ranma into Juuban, rather then Akane.
Standard landing near/in the middle of a fight (and in a pool or other body of water) and Luna tries to give the new girl when the new girl helps a henshin rod after seeing her as a kensei and being impressed by her skills. Ranma screams and runs from the cat, trampling the demon and confusing everyone.
Ranma makes it back home, still slightly out of sorts, and mentions talking cats and short skirted perverts (need a good explaination). Akane grants him more time to appologize to her with a trip back to Juuban, and on landing Ranma (still ranma-chan) lands on Uranus who made a rude joke about the redhead. The hit eachother in the head upon impace and both are KOed.
Pluto gives Ranma the Rod (ranma accepts after a long arguement) and they try it out with Neptune. (There is an NC-17 joke that can be put here, I am not going to write it out.)
Due to the fact that there is no way for Ranma to get to and from Nerima and no way for him to disappear effectively from there without rousing suspecision a plan is concocted. Saturn is aged to 16 and Pluto (as adopted mother) has an arranged marriage to the Saotomes (which Pluto's future self told her past self 7 years ago to setup a joining of the families, which she only now is understanding).
They go to the Dojo (seperately) and discuss the situtation. Pluto reviels that the Tendo dojo's mortgage is owned by her bank (news to Hotaru). Soun challenges her for it, and tries to gode Ranma into fighting over it. Setsuna explains that with Ranma as the cause of the dispute should either decide which side to take, or to be unable to do the challenge. Soun complains, but Setsuna points out if he were to side with her the match would likely be thrown anyway. Genma blusterrs and Setsuna uses a minor ki/pressure point attack (basically ranged pressure point technique) to knock him out.
Soun tries to negotiate but Akane challenges her for Ranma. Setsuna defeates her rather easily using her teleport in a way that seems more like she is phasing (it looks like she is moving but is invisiable for brief moments).
Setsuna moves Ranma to Juuban and just misses his mother showing up by 10 minutes. On the way Setsuna uses a metal detector and finds Nabiki's tracking device. Setsuna then teleports to Ueno ward and finds a long haired stray cat, she then ties the tracker into a pigtail she wieves into is hair.
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Postby Adyen » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:00 pm

Hmmm... An interesting idea.
Did you get this idea from watching stuff like Transformers and stuff like Dragonball? lol...
Damn that's a cool pic.
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Postby Dragon Man » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:47 pm

What would Ranma merged with Saturn be able to do????? Scary thought, but I'd except the Breaking Point with the Silence Glaive since they're both related to destruction.
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Postby Atlan » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:47 am

dam, thats origional. And its not overpowering ranma, making him more like a gear, than a real fighter. I like it.
Btw, zoomed out, the pic still looks cool, but the hair looks like a santa hat.
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Postby WG_Writer » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:45 pm

Dragon Man wrote:What would Ranma merged with Saturn be able to do????? Scary thought, but I'd except the Breaking Point with the Silence Glaive since they're both related to destruction.

Ranma can merge with any of the Sailors, providing both are willing at the time. Breaking point is Ryoga's special though. As the plan of Ideas go Hotaru and Moon would likely be the ones to merge most often.
Atlan wrote:dam, thats origional. And its not overpowering ranma, making him more like a gear, than a real fighter. I like it.
Btw, zoomed out, the pic still looks cool, but the hair looks like a santa hat.

If you know my works, i have a habit of underpowering Ranma. but I find it would be an odd twist on the Ranma as a Sailor Senshi idea.
I supose Ranma would count 'technically' as a Sailor Senshi since she has a uniform for one, and the transformation. So outside the Sailor Senshi there probably wouldn't make the distinction.
Ranma would be an indendant (not merged) fighter porbably 60% of the time. It will be when something comes up and the merge is needed it will happen. But... thats not to say that it won't be an abused power since it does not require transformations to occur.
As to the Pic, i use http://www.sailorgalleries.com/kiss/ The version 2 generator is fairly nice.
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Postby Lightspire » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:51 pm

That's a pretty cool ide. I wonder if the meshing causes after-effects...
This does remind me of Sailor terra from J St Patrick's fic... just a little... though it's actually very different. Anyway, I'm rambling. It looks pretty interesting.
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Postby crystlshake » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:07 am

I like the originality of the idea. It also gives some material to work with on its own. Ranma being the best might get a chip on his shoulder about not being strong enough to defeat something directly. The manner in which he was implimented would sour the deal considerably. I cant imagine him liking finding out that with all of the hardship and work he went thruough to get his skill he would like it to be borrowed by someone who put no effort into it and be used like that. To provide even more angst, finding out that instead of training to become strong enough on their own the people using him get to live 'normal' lives. I cant imagine him stomaching that for long without a lot of protest. He could probably stand it from hotaru due to her age and apparent frailty but from the others which were born into their power he would probably feel pretty cheated in more that one way. Feeling like a weapon or power upgrade to be used by someone when they cant cut it would chaffe something fierce.
Even with high tension like that he could probably swallow it like Akane's cooking and bear it for the good of everyone(though initially probably more for the safety of the greater populace and his friends/family than for his allies). This and his level of tolerance for the apparent lack of training in the others could be used to explain his primary preffrences for saturn or moon(who though would probably fail comiclly, would give her best effort to remedy the problem).With them also having the most power, they would have more trouble controling it in a refined manner.
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Postby J. St.C. Patrick » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 am

Lightspire wrote:This does remind me of Sailor terra from J St Patrick's fic... just a little... though it's actually very different.

:?:
hmm?
um, yeah.
Fuku-ken is very different. very different indeed.
Although it too was WarGiver's idea.
And in it Ranma only wears the costume of Sailor Ersatz, and is not really a Senshi at all, nor do the Senshi make a real appearence.
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An interesting idea WarGiver.
When seperating after a merge the Kensei will look like the one they merged with for an equal time that they were merged for. To unmerge both must want it, this does mean that the Senshi can force a Kensei to stay merged potentially indefinately, however, the Senshi can force them out, which overrides the Kensei's desire to maintain the merge. This results in the time the Kensei is stuck in the wrong form to be doubled.

1st bold: That could lead to a number of interesting situations.
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Postby Dragon Man » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:48 am

J. St.C. Patrick wrote:
When seperating after a merge the Kensei will look like the one they merged with for an equal time that they were merged for. To unmerge both must want it, this does mean that the Senshi can force a Kensei to stay merged potentially indefinately, however, the Senshi can force them out, which overrides the Kensei's desire to maintain the merge. This results in the time the Kensei is stuck in the wrong form to be doubled.

1st bold: That could lead to a number of interesting situations.

Ranma could have just merged with Hotaru and decides to teach any bullies who are picking on her a lesson. Imagine the looks on the bullies' faces when Hotaru kicks their butts using Anything Goes!! No one would believe them that sweet, kind Hotaru turned into a martial arts master.
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Postby Darth Thanatos » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:04 am

crystlshake wrote: Feeling like a weapon or power upgrade to be used by someone when they cant cut it would chaffe something fierce.

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Postby crystlshake » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:20 am

Yeah it would be hard to tell which way he would react to merging with Chibi-usa too. I wonder what effect it would have on merging with someone he doesnt get along with or like though, aside from some likely skill degredation. Im also currious on the actual mechanic for the fusion. I can just see Ranma's eagerness sky rocketing if its complicated. Though Usagi's clumsiness could have some hilarious results. Fusion-Ha!!???.... Instant Short overweight Sailor Moon. :roll:
Edit: Of course that probably wont be as bad as if Senshi magic cant override Junsenkyo. Hot or cold water could really throw things for a loop at that point.
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Postby Dragon Man » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:53 am

crystlshake wrote:Yeah it would be hard to tell which way he would react to merging with Chibi-usa too. I wonder what effect it would have on merging with someone he doesnt get along with or like though, aside from some likely skill degredation. Im also currious on the actual mechanic for the fusion. I can just see Ranma's eagerness sky rocketing if its complicated. Though Usagi's clumsiness could have some hilarious results. Fusion-Ha!!???.... Instant Short overweight Sailor Moon. :roll:
Edit: Of course that probably wont be as bad as if Senshi magic cant override Junsenkyo. Hot or cold water could really throw things for a loop at that point.

So, are you saying that if Ranma is in male form and merges with a senshi they'd become a Kamen? Tux boy would start to think he has rivals out there, or a very disturbing fan club, if he didn't know what was going on.
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Postby crystlshake » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:35 am

I got the impression that the merger was ment to be initiated by his female half from the description. Of course Ami would probably suggest that they try it with his male form to see if it could be done. Whether testing would occur before or after a mishap with hot water would be the question.(if it was an issue)
As a special for Minako he could use the love-me chain like a grapple to snag part of the environment or enemy and give him some momentum for the Shooting Star Kick that he used on Taro. For Saturn perhaps a powerful but highly controlled attack (more prescision) and/or anouther defensive technique using the glaive. Kensai Ranma uses Jump. (one of the Freya Limits from FF9 could work).
Would probablly want to ballance some attack skill upgrade and deffense/support skill upgrades among the senshi (whether what they get is dependant on the Kensei, the senshi or the specific combination/power affinity would be something to also sketch out). Ex. Each kensei supplies one of the following. single enemy attack, AoE attack, defense skill, support skill, dehabilitation skills (like slowing enemy movement as the primary function of the skill), rounded performance buff (enhances the senshi's inate skills(physical magical or whatever) something they would get with additional skills (like ranmas dodgeing speed or quicker battle planning)
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Re: Henshin boost, whiny Ranma

Postby Dark Magic » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:56 pm

WarGiver wrote:They can switch and be the Senshi in the back of the combined mind, but the body switches as well (similar but not related to a Jusenkyo transformation. Also while merged thoughts can be shared between them but are not without the will behind the thought (not to say an absent minded though couldn't slip through

So does this mean that the person controlling the body at the time is what the outer appearence will be or will it be like a combination of the two with certain features different.
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Re: Henshin Boost, Whiny Ranma

Postby AshK1980 » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:54 pm

I like it. Quite original. Keep them coming.
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