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Postby deathgeonous » Sun May 28, 2006 4:44 pm

Guest, I like your funny ideas for Mars Mercury and Venus, though I don't know about swiching the roles of Uranus and Neptune. No to Kuno, defenitly.
Darth Thanatos, your post has giving me a lot to think about. This is getting me good ideas on how to protray the Dark Senshi.
On to another matter, and slightly off topic, but not by much, how can I totally courupt Sailor Moon's Attacks, for Ranma's useage? I got a review that asked if I was going to have Ranma Shooting off big pink hearts of death. I JUST CAN NOT DO THAT! So how to courupt them for Dark Usagi aka Ranma. I have a list of all the Senshi attacks, and Salior Moon has a ton, so many that it's pointless to list them here, because of the room it would take. So just give me some ideas on Sailor Moons more popular attacks, ie the ones she uses most, and I'll come up with the more exotic ones by my self, as and if I use them.
Thanks fior all the help, and keep the ideas flowing, espicaly for Uranus and Neptune, because I still haven't made up my mind about them. Thanks again guys.
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Postby GenocideHeart » Sun May 28, 2006 5:00 pm

deathgeonous wrote:On to another matter, and slightly off topic, but not by much, how can I totally courupt Sailor Moon's Attacks, for Ranma's useage? I got a review that asked if I was going to have Ranma Shooting off big pink hearts of death. I JUST CAN NOT DO THAT! So how to courupt them for Dark Usagi aka Ranma. I have a list of all the Senshi attacks, and Salior Moon has a ton, so many that it's pointless to list them here, because of the room it would take. So just give me some ideas on Sailor Moons more popular attacks, ie the ones she uses most, and I'll come up with the more exotic ones by my self, as and if I use them.

May I recommend instead completely making them up? If you can't do that, you may instead have Ranma actually still use chi attacks... only black, to point out the heavy influence his dark side now has.
Alternatively, you may do what I did for a couple of my fics, and rip off the names of your favorite videogames' moves. Yeah, it's not very original, but it may be funny.
If neither of these options work for you... think opposites. White against black... if Sailor Moon uses the power of love, why not use an attack fueled by hate and other negative emotions? This, incidentally, would make Dark Moon *MORE* powerful than Sailor Moon, due to the enormous amount of negative emotions the human race manages to muster up.
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Postby Dark Magic » Sun May 28, 2006 5:34 pm

deathgeonous wrote:On to another matter, and slightly off topic, but not by much, how can I totally courupt Sailor Moon's Attacks, for Ranma's useage? I got a review that asked if I was going to have Ranma Shooting off big pink hearts of death. I JUST CAN NOT DO THAT! Thanks again.

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Yeah I can see why you wouldn't want to do that. Plus very unorginal. If I remember correctly most bad guys from Sailor Moon if they did have a special attack didn't anounce it so you could go with that theory, then again I could be wrong.
Plus if you do change Dark Sailor Moon's attacks wouldn't you have to change all the Dark Senshi's attacks?
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Postby GenocideHeart » Sun May 28, 2006 6:15 pm

Dark Magic wrote:
deathgeonous wrote:On to another matter, and slightly off topic, but not by much, how can I totally courupt Sailor Moon's Attacks, for Ranma's useage? I got a review that asked if I was going to have Ranma Shooting off big pink hearts of death. I JUST CAN NOT DO THAT! Thanks again.

"Pink Sparkling Heart of DOOM!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I can see why you wouldn't want to do that. Plus very unorginal. If I remember correctly most bad guys from Sailor Moon if they did have a special attack didn't anounce it so you could go with that theory, then again I could be wrong.
Plus if you do change Dark Sailor Moon's attacks wouldn't you have to change all the Dark Senshi's attacks?

The Dark Senshi are simpler. Most of them are aligned with an element, so just give them negative' version of their attacks.
For example, Dark Jupiter might use, instead of Jupiter Thunder, something like 'Cursed Thunder'.
This reminds me of an OOOOOLD fic I wrote where I had eight warriors with powers similarto the Senshi... I might be able to post their move lists if I dig that old info up. Interested?
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Postby deathgeonous » Sun May 28, 2006 8:12 pm

GenocideHeart, I was thinking opposites, negitve stuff. And yes Ranma WILL hate it if I go that way, but I was wondering if any body had good ideas for opposites of Sailor Moons Attack. I had a friend say the exact opposite of the big pick heat attack of PAIN and DOOM was a big broken black heart attack of PAIN and DOOM. but I think that's a little stupid, so I was wondering if you guys had some good ideas, before I scraped Sailor Moon's attack list and made up Dark Usagi's AKA Ranma's attack list. Thanks for all the hep guys.
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Postby GenocideHeart » Sun May 28, 2006 8:40 pm

deathgeonous wrote:GenocideHeart, I was thinking opposites, negitve stuff. And yes Ranma WILL hate it if I go that way, but I was wondering if any body had good ideas for opposites of Sailor Moons Attack. I had a friend say the exact opposite of the big pick heat attack of PAIN and DOOM was a big broken black heart attack of PAIN and DOOM. but I think that's a little stupid, so I was wondering if you guys had some good ideas, before I scraped Sailor Moon's attack list and made up Dark Usagi's AKA Ranma's attack list. Thanks for all the hep guys.

Eh, if you REALLY want to, I can try and see what I can come up with for Dark Usagi. Just give me time to sleep. It's 4AM here. :wink:
One warning, though: usually my choices are heavily influenced by videogames, so don't be surprised if some stuff looks familiar...
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Postby deathgeonous » Sun May 28, 2006 8:47 pm

Get sleep. SLEEP GOOD! I'm a big boy, I can try to come up with this stuff by my self IF I reach that point tonight, which in all honesty I don't think I will. So go to sleep in good contince man.
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Postby GenocideHeart » Sun May 28, 2006 8:59 pm

deathgeonous wrote:Get sleep. SLEEP GOOD! I'm a big boy, I can try to come up with this stuff by my self IF I reach that point tonight, which in all honesty I don't think I will. So go to sleep in good contince man.

OK, OK, I understand. I did make up four attacks for you, though. Feel free to use them. Here they are. Forgive me if they're crappy, but it's the best I could churn out at this time in the night.
Fear Flare - This is a passive skill: a terror field surrounding Dark Moon will cause lesser beings to either flee her presence or drop to their knees in fear. Only strong-willed characters can shrug it off. It's semipermanently active, in that even when not fighting, Dark Moon emits a repressed aura of malice that instinctively scares whoever's nearby. It's kind of a Turn Undead spell from D&D, only in reverse.
Dead Moon Damnation - The counterpart to Moon Healing Escalation. The target will start turning to stone if struck. Knocking Dark Moon unconscious can stop the stoning process, but a fully stoned character can only be released by Dark Moon herself - or possibly by Usagi's Moon Healing Escalation itself.
Dead Moon Vortex - The counterpart to Moon Tiara Action, and Dark Moon's most commonly used attack. Unlike Sailor Moon, Dark Moon attacks by focusing negative energy through the palm of her right hand, sending a destructive vortex on concentrated negative energy at the enemy. Most enemies are outright incinerated by this attack.
Negagenesis - By far the strongest attack Dark Moon uses, it will engulf the entire area around her in a dome of destructive energy capable of pretty much annihilating any material it touches. This attack does not discriminate between friend or foe, and is only slightly less powerful than Saturn's Death Reborn Revolution, so it should be used with caution.
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Postby deathgeonous » Sun May 28, 2006 9:50 pm

Thanks Genocideheart. I like them, espicaly Fear Flare. I can just see Genma and Soun droping to their knees before her exclaining 'More tarrible then the master! Forgive us!" ha. I think I will use them, just as is, or maybe slightly modified, if I can think of a way to make them better, which I can't at the moment. I just didn't want you working hard when tierd, but thanks man, I apprecate it. If I really do use them, which is a good probabilty, I'll credit you in an Authors Note. Thanks again and if this is you tierd, I'd love to see you awake.
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Postby ChasTaro » Mon May 29, 2006 1:45 am

You could always ripp off the anime The Bastard and use rock band names for attacks. I.E. Mega Death, Black Sabath. Too bad pionner wimped out and changed the attack names for the U.S. release.
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Postby Dragon Man » Mon May 29, 2006 1:55 am

GenocideHeart wrote:OK, OK, I understand. I did make up four attacks for you, though. Feel free to use them. Here they are. Forgive me if they're crappy, but it's the best I could churn out at this time in the night.
Fear Flare - This is a passive skill: a terror field surrounding Dark Moon will cause lesser beings to either flee her presence or drop to their knees in fear. Only strong-willed characters can shrug it off. It's semipermanently active, in that even when not fighting, Dark Moon emits a repressed aura of malice that instinctively scares whoever's nearby. It's kind of a Turn Undead spell from D&D, only in reverse.
Dead Moon Damnation - The counterpart to Moon Healing Escalation. The target will start turning to stone if struck. Knocking Dark Moon unconscious can stop the stoning process, but a fully stoned character can only be released by Dark Moon herself - or possibly by Usagi's Moon Healing Escalation itself.
Dead Moon Vortex - The counterpart to Moon Tiara Action, and Dark Moon's most commonly used attack. Unlike Sailor Moon, Dark Moon attacks by focusing negative energy through the palm of her right hand, sending a destructive vortex on concentrated negative energy at the enemy. Most enemies are outright incinerated by this attack.
Negagenesis - By far the strongest attack Dark Moon uses, it will engulf the entire area around her in a dome of destructive energy capable of pretty much annihilating any material it touches. This attack does not discriminate between friend or foe, and is only slightly less powerful than Saturn's Death Reborn Revolution, so it should be used with caution.

I'd suggest Ranma learning about that last one ahead of time and not accidently use it. If she managed to kill one of her friends or an innocent she'd probably retreat to the recess of her mind in despair and become a vegetable. I like the turning to stone one, Ranma could get some really creepy statues for free and just use them as training dummies for the Good Senshi to train their physical attacks.
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Postby GenocideHeart » Mon May 29, 2006 10:27 am

Dragon Man wrote:I'd suggest Ranma learning about that last one ahead of time and not accidently use it. If she managed to kill one of her friends or an innocent she'd probably retreat to the recess of her mind in despair and become a vegetable. I like the turning to stone one, Ranma could get some really creepy statues for free and just use them as training dummies for the Good Senshi to train their physical attacks.

I forgot to mention one thing about the last one makes it very dangerous. It doesn't simply destroy or kill the target - it outright negates its existence, hence the name Negagenesis.
Essentially, whatever gets caught in its blast radius other than Dark Moon herself, is instantly obliterated - there's no way to revive them, because there's nothing LEFT to revive - no soul, no body, not even molecules.
So yeah, Ranma/Dark Moon should learn about this ahead of time, because it's far too powerful a move to just fling around at a whim.
Possibly Dark Pluto, once she realizes Ranma/Dark Moon doesn't quite remember the details of his/her attacks, warns him/her about the last one somehow?
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Postby Darth Thanatos » Mon May 29, 2006 4:05 pm

Hm... It's a bit corny by my standards of Evil Overlord (TM), but if you want some kind of opposed imagery to the hearts (I don't recall if Usagi has any heart-imaged attack, Chibi-Usa does, though) you can always use skulls, to name one, or black seven or eight pointed stars (shuriken-like or with serrated edges) opposed to the more childish yellow five pointed stars.
Good thing is that it is very unlikely Dark-Chibi will make an appearance in this fanfic, unless you want to give Ranma a heart attack, and a very good reason to the Fiancee Brigade for a very long game of Whack-a-Ranma. Pink Hair? Ranma's flesh daughter? Definitely a recipe for disaster.
Oh, and no Dark Mamoru either, please. That one could be actually useful in combat. Definitely not making corny speeches and not throwing roses. Unless they are black. Kodachi. Hmm...
I actually recommend to dismiss the Negagenesis Attack. It is waaaay too powerful, specially if, as described, it is an area attack and not exactly a targeted one. Unless it can only be used as Eternal Dark Moon... Bat style wings? That has possibilities...
Still I don't see Ranma using that kind of attack. IF he had something like that at Jusendo, I really doubt he would have used it against Saffron. It's too... unRanma. It is not Out Of Character, it is Against Character. You will need to change Ranma a lot and put him in extraordinary circumstances to make him use that kind of nuke.
And I see the Fear Flare in passive skill more in the arsenal of Empress Serenity than in the Princess'. Or as an active attack it could be the Dark Moon version of Mercury's Mist attack.
I see that making attacks for Ranma/Dark Usagi is really hard, because most of Sailor Moon attacks are finishers, with the inners softening the target with theirs. Ranma is one to be on the frontline with flashy (he's a showoff) and effective attacks.
I've been thinking about DMercury and the idea of making her totally stupid (Groo anyone?) crossed my mind, but someone like that should have a very short life expectancy in the Dark Moon. So I think that having a knowledge obssesed, manipulative bitch (think Nabiki and Washuu with a scalpel and willing to use it) is more up to par.
Venus the Dominatrix? Naahh.. That's too easy... I will give you some seriously whacked idea. Really obsessed with sex. Of any kind ("ARTEMIS! Come over here! I'm horny!"), and with anything that moves ("Those rumours about my having sex with corpses are tasteless even for the Dark Moon!"). Oh, she also "recharges" this way, sucking dry her partner(s). So... she's a natural trap for some unnamed Martial Arts GrandMaster. He could even die a Happi troll. One possible attack? "Venus Do-Me Pain!" I'd use the F-word instead of "do", but it depends on if you want a more general audience or more grown ups. Instead of golden chains, though, you can always use the more "appropriate" tentacles Urotsukidoji-style.
As for the Dirty Pair (heh), the originals are so close to the line between good and evil that you have to take them to the extreme to make Dark Moon versions of them. That or totally opposite, meek and pacifists, but I think they would end the same way that a stupid Sailor Mercury: dead very fast.
Of course this also depends on the tone of the story: light? angsty? WAFFy?
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Postby GenocideHeart » Mon May 29, 2006 5:38 pm

Hmm... some more elaborating on those attacks.
The Fear Flare is actually something I figure *all* Dark Senshi have, to different extents. It depends on the inherent malice within them. The Empress will have a much more powerful one available, and Dark Moon will likely have the second strongest. The Dark Senshi probably can't use it passively, and have to actually project the terror aura. But the Empress andtheQueen would likely have it semipermanently active, simply because they are used to invoking fear in their subjects.
Regarding the Negagenesis attack, it is something Ranma will never EVER use, unless an *entire world* is at stake. It is final death, with not even the consolation of an afterlife. He will NOT use it, unless he's left with no other choice but to take out a few foes to save billions of people. And even then, he'll very liklely hesitate.
It, on the other hand, fits Dark Moon's persona, assuming she's a completely evil version of SM. Why would she care if she destroys an enemy's very soul? It'd be an example to any fool who crosses her.
Also, it's pretty much something only Dark Moon's Eternal version can use, just as you inferred. It requires so much power, it's not normally usable, which is a good thing.
Regarding Venus, I actually suggest having her be... how can I put it... a Goddess of Pain? :wink: Think something like Loviathar, the Patron Goddess of pain and suffering. That also infers that she'd be a very vengeful person who loves to inflict abject suffering on the opponent.
As for Saturn... actually I recommend keeping her attacks exactly the same. In both cases, Saturn is supposed to be the ultimate answer, what you unleash when your opponent NEEDS to be silenced - forever. Perhaps change her title to something a little more creepy.
Also... since Dark Serenity obviously survived, wouldn't it make sense to have her nicknamed the 'Forever Queen'? Just a small idea to flesh Dark Serenity out.
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Postby deathgeonous » Mon May 29, 2006 8:59 pm

Not to spoil anything, but that Negagenesis attack? I have an good idea for Ranma useing it, and it will only happen ONCE in the entire fic, as of this moment. Defenitly no more then twice, but I only plan on Ranma useing it in ONE an ONLY ONE fight. Ranma, as can be seen in my chapter two, hates that attack. It scares Ranma.
Oh and Genocide, this may give my idea away, but what do you think would happen if two Negageesis attacks collided? A black hole like thing I'm thinking.
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